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Aaron Sylvester said:
BroJing said:
I really don't understand why people get so wound up about PC vs Console FPS', yes the PC controls are definately more responsive but that doesn't stop Console games being enjoyable. They are usually designed around this exact limitation.
Limitations aside, it still raises questions as to why things are exclusive to platforms where they don't belong. Imagine if an arcade fighter (say...Street Fighter XI) was PC exclusive. "It's still enjoyable!" people would claim, but would you not ask a whole bunch of questions as to why such a thing was done?
Because FPS make more money on console with less work for the developer. Video games (business) will always go where the money is.
 

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BroJing said:
I really don't understand why people get so wound up about PC vs Console FPS', yes the PC controls are definately more responsive but that doesn't stop Console games being enjoyable. They are usually designed around this exact limitation.
The issue here is that the joke being made applies just as much to consoles vs. PCs as it does to phones vs. consoles.
Yes, console FPSs can be perfectly fun, as can phone FPSs, the control schemes don't outright ruin the games in either case.

But making a joke about how a phone's control system is much worse than consoles for FPSs, without recognising that a consoles controls are much worse than a PCs for the exact same games is at best intellectual dishonesty and at worst pure hypocrisy.
 

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I love how Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja get full console releases, both games you pull out while on the bus or waiting for porn to buffer or both.

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I actually prefer FPS's on the console [/drops mic]

But seriously, I think it just comes down to what you're more used to.
I like having the 360 controller layout with sensitivity turned down, so aiming's more presice.
 

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Guffe said:
My friend is playin a Zombie FPS on his phone...
Now I am not sure I understood this comic -.-
That would probably be Dead Trigger, which annoying F2P microtransaction structure aside[footnote]It /really/ pushes the real money transactions, to a truly obnoxious degree. Especially since I'm pretty sure you have to buy it on iOS, and it used to cost $1 on Android -- on top of the microtransactions[/footnote], is a lot of fun. And actually, having played it, it's not all that much worse than playing an FPS on a console. They're both pretty clunky ways of going about something that was designed around the mouse and keyboard. Having played a couple of shooters on the DS, I'd even go so far as to say touch screen controls are right up there with Mouse and Keyboard, when implemented correctly. Which basically means "get a stylus."
 

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console: a panel or unit accommodating controls for electronic or mechanical equipment
: a combination of readouts or displays and an input device (as a keyboard or switches) by which an operator can monitor and interact with a system (as a computer or dubber)

Ok guys, I'm pretty sure that can also means it covers all Xbox's, PS3, Wii-U's, and your damn PC's. >.>

OT: I'm pretty sure the developers would take this straight to the publishers now. "SEE! SEE! NOW CAN WE DESERVE MONEY TO MAKE ANOTHER GAME? WE'RE TOTALLY WORTH IT NOW!"
 

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Dirty Apple said:
Enough with the devisive commentary folks. Mobile, console, or pc, it doesnt matter as long as they're playing. This need to feel superior to your neighbour only damages gaming culture as a whole. If you wanna play your FPS on a console so be it. Enjoy. I prefer PC if only because I've been using that control scheme for almost 15 years. However, some of my finest gaming memories involve Golden Eye. It's like watching an impressionist claim their approach is a truer artform than surealism.

tl:dr Same team people. Watch your friendly fire.
Maze1125 said:
BroJing said:
I really don't understand why people get so wound up about PC vs Console FPS', yes the PC controls are definately more responsive but that doesn't stop Console games being enjoyable. They are usually designed around this exact limitation.
The issue here is that the joke being made applies just as much to consoles vs. PCs as it does to phones vs. consoles.
Yes, console FPSs can be perfectly fun, as can phone FPSs, the control schemes don't outright ruin the games in either case.

But making a joke about how a phone's control system is much worse than consoles for FPSs, without recognising that a consoles controls are much worse than a PCs for the exact same games is at best intellectual dishonesty and at worst pure hypocrisy.
Bravo, guys. You both hit the nail on the head. I have no problem with console controls because I've played more FPS's on home consoles than on the PC. I haven't tried paying one on my phone, yet. I think it's a case of which types of games are best suited for what platform you prefer?
 

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Wow, I didn't hink that Erin had the capacity to like iOS games. Who knew?
Yahtzee finding less games to obliterate, Erin (Cory+Grey) actually liking iOS games?

Slow down with the good stuff, developers, otherwise Escapist won't have much more of a reason to exist.

JJShaw said:
Suchong + bow tie: awesomeness^2

I found a typo though... you wrote "on an actual console", whereas you meant to write "on PC, not some kiddie toybox for retards"

minor mistype, but still.
Y'know, it's funny, I just built myself a pretty decent gaming computer solely so I can finally play all my Steam games without framerate issues and crashing, and soon I'll be able to officially call myself part PC-Gamer... It's comments like this that make me kinda regret that choice... I don't wanna be associated with this type of dipshit behavior. I'm... I'm part of enough fandoms/groups that I'm moderately ashamed of, y'know...?

I don't wanna... like... add to it. I still haven't bought my video card yet. Maybe it's not too late to back out?
 

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Dirty Apple said:
Enough with the devisive commentary folks. Mobile, console, or pc, it doesnt matter as long as they're playing. This need to feel superior to your neighbour only damages gaming culture as a whole. If you wanna play your FPS on a console so be it. Enjoy. I prefer PC if only because I've been using that control scheme for almost 15 years. However, some of my finest gaming memories involve Golden Eye. It's like watching an impressionist claim their approach is a truer artform than surealism.

tl:dr Same team people. Watch your friendly fire.
Your words are true, Squalid Fruit. :( I came to the comments hoping to here more about the game in the comic, but everyone just keeps talking about PC this and console that.
To it all, I say: xp
CleverCover said:
console: a panel or unit accommodating controls for electronic or mechanical equipment
: a combination of readouts or displays and an input device (as a keyboard or switches) by which an operator can monitor and interact with a system (as a computer or dubber)

Ok guys, I'm pretty sure that can also means it covers all Xbox's, PS3, Wii-U's, and your damn PC's. >.>

OT: I'm pretty sure the developers would take this straight to the publishers now. "SEE! SEE! NOW CAN WE DESERVE MONEY TO MAKE ANOTHER GAME? WE'RE TOTALLY WORTH IT NOW!"
:)
Thank you, Courageous Armored Space Hamster.
 

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Next-gen controllers ought to have a trackball where the right thumbstick is now. Would that not be awesome?
 

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BX3 said:
shadowspiri5 said:
Wow, I didn't hink that Erin had the capacity to like iOS games. Who knew?
Yahtzee finding less games to obliterate, Erin (Cory+Grey) actually liking iOS games?

Slow down with the good stuff, developers, otherwise Escapist won't have much more of a reason to exist.

JJShaw said:
Suchong + bow tie: awesomeness^2

I found a typo though... you wrote "on an actual console", whereas you meant to write "on PC, not some kiddie toybox for retards"

minor mistype, but still.
Y'know, it's funny, I just built myself a pretty decent gaming computer solely so I can finally play all my Steam games without framerate issues and crashing, and soon I'll be able to officially call myself part PC-Gamer... It's comments like this that make me kinda regret that choice... I don't wanna be associated with this type of dipshit behavior. I'm... I'm part of enough fandoms/groups that I'm moderately ashamed of, y'know...?

I don't wanna... like... add to it. I still haven't bought my video card yet. Maybe it's not too late to back out?
No friend.
Just because some people, in a group of people who like something, act like jerks doesn't mean you shouldn't have fun doing something you like.

Also, from what you said, I'd guess that you aren't a jerk, and having more no-jerks join a group is only a good thing.
And no, I'm not a PC gamer by the way. Not trying to sell you on the things. In fact, never tried PC gaming, but if you like it don't let other people ruin it for you. That is all.
 

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To the flamewar: I hate thumbsticks for cursor control. They frustrate me to no end. I can be at the top of a leaderboard in an online shooter on a modern console and still be cursing the piece of shit I'm holding in my hands that keeps me from aiming properly. It's completely impossible for me to have fun while playing such a game.

That said, I've actually played a shooter, on the PS3, with a proper control scheme. You can plug in a mouse and keyboard, and they're usable for Unreal Tournament. I'd say that means there's no argument here.
 

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The look on the statuette's face... my sides..

Rat with bowtie is pretty amazing, too.
 

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they couls have at least included PC..it just irks me because it contributes to "PC'? whats that bro?" whihc I know is silly but still
 

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Vault101 said:
they couls have at least included PC..it just irks me because it contributes to "PC'? whats that bro?" whihc I know is silly but still
If it bugs ya that much ya can go with what CleverCover said.
console: a panel or unit accommodating controls for electronic or mechanical equipment
: a combination of readouts or displays and an input device (as a keyboard or switches) by which an operator can monitor and interact with a system (as a computer or dubber)

Ok guys, I'm pretty sure that can also means it covers all Xbox's, PS3, Wii-U's, and your damn PC's. >.>

Or be mad.
You know the line.