You're basing your preference on blatantly incorrect assumptions. THAT IS wrong. If you're going to have a preference, at least have the decency to be accurate about the pros and cons of BOTH sides.The Tall Nerd said:
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I'd make an exception for Metroid though, mostly because it was never about the shooting. I used to hate console games that disregarded the strafe-look control setup (which is pretty much perfect for two analog sticks) in favour of a turn/move-look/strafe one (which feels retarded even typing it out) but it never bugged me on Metroid because of the lock-on and the fact that you spend half the game exploring anyway.Aaron Sylvester said:
That's not to say I wouldn't instantly purchase a PC remake of Trilogy. Holy balls, would that still be awesome.
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Wait....so both home consoles and PCs aren't giant electronic devices that let me play games and do other stuff with a device that I use to send signals? I'm so sorry.Maze1125 said:
The argument of what Erin was referring to in her award is still dumb.
Yes, they are, but that's completely irrelevant.CleverCover said:
An equivocation fallacy isn't a matter of mis-applying a definition, it's a matter of using one definition and then trying claim you've proven something about an entirely different definition of the word.
Yes, under the definition you've given, PCs, X-Boxes and phones are all consoles, but that doesn't change a thing, as no-one else in the thread, or the comic, was using that definition of the word "console" other than you.
The original argument was about Erin's wording of the award for the iOS FPS game. Her award was "The game we wish was on a console". Then someone said, "No, the game that should be on a PCMaze1125 said:
". Then it started a huge PC vs Console war.My post was referring to how "console" could cover both PC and everything else, so the exact wording of her award shouldn't matter.
Except that if you're willing to change the way the original person used a word you can assume anyone meant anything you want.CleverCover said:The original argument was about Erin's wording of the award for the iOS FPS game. Her award was "The game we wish was on a console". Then someone said, "No, the game that should be on a PCMaze1125 said:
My post was referring to how "console" could cover both PC and everything else, so the exact wording of her award shouldn't matter.
That not reasonable, the only reasonable thing to do is take a word in the way the person originally meant it, anything else is twisting their words to suit yourself.
Given that, do you honestly think the original comic was using a definition of "console" that generally applies to industrial equipment, rather than the definition that generally applies to gaming devices?
This, in a sense. I'm glad I'm not the only one with this opinion. Yes, the framerate might be higher (currently, until the next console jump), and yes, you may be able to pull off snazzier graphics on a PC. But I will always argue that keyboard and mouse has its own faults in FPS control. I'll admit that a mouse allows for slightly higher precision without the need of aim assist - though a good number of PC shooters still use it. However I'm so used to an analog for aiming in games like Halo that I never feel I'm lacking in precise aim. I set the sensitivity pretty high now, so it isn't like the aim is more sluggish than a mouse. And at least I don't have to worry about my primary aiming tool slipping on the table during a frantic shootout and sending my sights reeling.dystopiaINC said:
But more than that, I will never defend WASD for movement. I absolutely cannot stand that for most games, FPS included, your movement options generally boil down to "stopped" and "running full tilt." At best you have MORE buttons designated to movement just to allow you to walk, which on top of the ridiculous mapping involved in your superior control layout, leads to my hand cramping up. Constantly. I don't need early carpal tunnel this young. An analog stick is just more fluid for smooth, precise movement, and unless you fork out for a pressure sensitive gaming keyboard I don't see that changing in the slightest.
Yes, a control stick is indisputably better than a keyboard for FPS movement.
But, what's more important in an FPS, aim, or movement?
Well if you put two people up against each other, one that can move on any axis at any speed, and the other who can make a headshot in a fraction of a second regardless of where their opponent moves, I can tell you which one of those two is going to win the match.
Now, a game like Mirror's Edge on the other hand, I would never play with a keyboard and mouse, controller all the way there.
Really, what I want is a control system that puts a mouse in my right hand and reasonably sized control stick in my left.
But, what's more important in an FPS, aim, or movement?
Well if you put two people up against each other, one that can move on any axis at any speed, and the other who can make a headshot in a fraction of a second regardless of where their opponent moves, I can tell you which one of those two is going to win the match.
Now, a game like Mirror's Edge on the other hand, I would never play with a keyboard and mouse, controller all the way there.
Really, what I want is a control system that puts a mouse in my right hand and reasonably sized control stick in my left.
Actually, yeah. I do, but I'm not Mr. Grey or Mr. Cory so I'm not in their heads. Are you?Maze1125 said:
If you choose to believe they meant everything non-PC, then ok. I went with the definition of console that I found and chose to believe that the award is covering all the bases.
I might be wrong and he put it there meaning only Xbox's and PS3s. You might be wrong and he meant everything. Unless he decided to answer, although I'm pretty sure he's just laughing at both of us right now, we will never truly know.
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A lot of them are multiformat, too. They usually work with both the PC and 360 and some of them support PS3, too.
Although far too few games really take advantage of an analogue stick =[ Most of them still only have two or three different movement speeds.
I agree, but in the grand scheme of things I rather have a console version of a FPS than a iOS or Android version.Bindal said:
Other than Cut the rope, Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja and some Tower Defense games smart phones are shit for mobile gaming.
Owning a Samsung Galaxy SII, a Nintendo 3DS and a Sony PS Vita I can tell you now the phone has the least amount of actual play time. Over all Gaming on a mobile phone sucks, it is partially why the Nokia N-Gage failed in the market.
Maybe of I synch up a bluetooth controller like the iCade 8bitty or a Wii Remote to my phone but that go against having games on a mobile phone in the first place.
