Custom Firmware 3.55 Bricking PS3s
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Umm... you do know there are"hackers" that don't do what you think, right? I think the term you are looking for is "Cracker". (Seriously, not in the racist term.)psrdirector said:
Well, one of the main ones was .mkv support, which we never got. Well, at least one of the ones that really bugs me.Aura Guardian said:
See above.psrdirector said:
Ok. All these posts of "thats what you get for pirating cuz Piracy R Bad" is illustrating a lack of understanding about the situation.
Jailbreaking a console is not just about pirating software. Its infintely more about experimenting with the hardware to get it to do things it was not intended to do. Most of which are perfectly legal and legitimate uses for it.
Ill give just a few examples.
Running Open Office
running different browsers that are capable of running Java and flash to say... Watch Youtube and hulu.
Running opensource games
Running individually developed games
Running ports of previously for sale games that have since become freeware (heres a little list) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_games_released_as_freeware
That is just a little snippet of the things that are completely legitimate which make up by far and away what the largest part of these hobbists do.
Another thing is that your lumping together the scene of people in with all the pirates blindly. Some of these guys are downright skillful in development. Some of which have developed games that are just as complete and fleshed out by themselves that you see teams taking years to develop on basically no budget and trying to villify them because they had no real means to distribute what they made themselves and chose this medium based on its legallity to do so, to show the world their work.
I am not advocating piracy in anyway. In the US case about Jailbreaking vs apple, it was clearly pointed out that there is nothing wrong with using something you own to allow it to do something it was never intended to do. So please refrain from blindly calling out Pirate if you dont actually understand what your railing against because a few bad apples confused you into thinking the thousands of people doing it for legitimate means are all guilty of doing the same thing.
/end rant
Jailbreaking a console is not just about pirating software. Its infintely more about experimenting with the hardware to get it to do things it was not intended to do. Most of which are perfectly legal and legitimate uses for it.
Ill give just a few examples.
Running Open Office
running different browsers that are capable of running Java and flash to say... Watch Youtube and hulu.
Running opensource games
Running individually developed games
Running ports of previously for sale games that have since become freeware (heres a little list) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_games_released_as_freeware
That is just a little snippet of the things that are completely legitimate which make up by far and away what the largest part of these hobbists do.
Another thing is that your lumping together the scene of people in with all the pirates blindly. Some of these guys are downright skillful in development. Some of which have developed games that are just as complete and fleshed out by themselves that you see teams taking years to develop on basically no budget and trying to villify them because they had no real means to distribute what they made themselves and chose this medium based on its legallity to do so, to show the world their work.
I am not advocating piracy in anyway. In the US case about Jailbreaking vs apple, it was clearly pointed out that there is nothing wrong with using something you own to allow it to do something it was never intended to do. So please refrain from blindly calling out Pirate if you dont actually understand what your railing against because a few bad apples confused you into thinking the thousands of people doing it for legitimate means are all guilty of doing the same thing.
/end rant
Erm, dude? XBMC originally stood for Xbox Media Centre. Were it not for piracy-enambling firmware, there would be no XBMC. Thus, I'm concluding that you've defeated your own argument.erbkaiser said:
On Topic: It's an alpha (presumably). Things go wrong. Just ask anyone who've played Minecraft over a period of time.
Just like the PSP back in the day. The pirate-devs will figure it out soon enough, surely after more 12-year olds and impatient nerds (I fall into the second category) try the update and report back.
Too bad, but it's the risk you take.
Too bad, but it's the risk you take.
I distinctly remember doing stupid stuff like this with my PSP, just to see what happened. For the record I bought it with my own money back then, and it was not a cheap device. But I bought it to game and to tinker with, and that's exactly what I got out of it... well, the tinkering part anyways. I figure I've run every exploit on the thing since the first firmware 2.00 downgrader's. That was back before we had the recovery console too - scary days.
The PS3 scene is still new, but a respectable coder will soon emerge. After that, everyone'll pretty much focus on their releases. and it'd be rare for them to release a firmware that woud intentionally brick consoles ([font color=red]Team M33, I'm lookin at you... I haven't forgotten about that[/font]).
Anyways, I've still got that same PSP, and aside from some scary moments where I'd nuked bits of my Flash0, or some weird config stuff on Flash1, I'd say it was all pretty painless past the first "Oh shit, I'm about to press the button!" moment.
Then again, I always understood that if I bricked it, it was my problem.
The PS3 scene is still new, but a respectable coder will soon emerge. After that, everyone'll pretty much focus on their releases. and it'd be rare for them to release a firmware that woud intentionally brick consoles ([font color=red]Team M33, I'm lookin at you... I haven't forgotten about that[/font]).
Anyways, I've still got that same PSP, and aside from some scary moments where I'd nuked bits of my Flash0, or some weird config stuff on Flash1, I'd say it was all pretty painless past the first "Oh shit, I'm about to press the button!" moment.
Then again, I always understood that if I bricked it, it was my problem.
I can't say that I feel bad or have sympathy for anyone who messes with their Xbox or PS3's and end up bricking them.
I think everyone has a fairly good idea by this time that making mods to your console is a gamble at best. If not then you are pretty much ignoring the fact there are so many forums and user groups out there that report this on a fairly regular basis.
And even if you were in fact living under a rock, there are plenty of written warning in the user manuals, registration cards and various stickers and certain legal language that 'device should only be used as was intended by the manufacturer' And 'warranty is void' if messed with. It even becomes inherent as this practice pretty much covers all electrnoic devices today. You can't buy a DVD player, mp3 unit, gps device, or smart phone today without all the same precautionary tales..."DON'T FUCK WITH THIS OR WARRANTY IS VOID". It's pretty much a "no-duh" acceptance these days, so all these guys who want to mod their consoles knowing all this in advance....go ahead...you deserve getting bricked.
Okay, now that I'm my high horse...I still don't get it. Why the hell do you really want to risk doing this to a $400-500 console to begin with. You bought this to play video games....not to control your neighbors RC car, or tap into the microwave in the kitchen, install some obscure app that darws oh's and ah's for a total of 5 minutes...or show off that you can get to the root off to your friends. Okay, so you did do that....who the F cares and who are you trying to impress? So what if you can now control 20 TV's with a moded PS3 and view your FLV files...I can do that my getting my ass off the couch or using the actual remote to begin with, or use an actual device that was intended to play video files in the right format....and not bricking my system that was intended only for games.
I think everyone has a fairly good idea by this time that making mods to your console is a gamble at best. If not then you are pretty much ignoring the fact there are so many forums and user groups out there that report this on a fairly regular basis.
And even if you were in fact living under a rock, there are plenty of written warning in the user manuals, registration cards and various stickers and certain legal language that 'device should only be used as was intended by the manufacturer' And 'warranty is void' if messed with. It even becomes inherent as this practice pretty much covers all electrnoic devices today. You can't buy a DVD player, mp3 unit, gps device, or smart phone today without all the same precautionary tales..."DON'T FUCK WITH THIS OR WARRANTY IS VOID". It's pretty much a "no-duh" acceptance these days, so all these guys who want to mod their consoles knowing all this in advance....go ahead...you deserve getting bricked.
Okay, now that I'm my high horse...I still don't get it. Why the hell do you really want to risk doing this to a $400-500 console to begin with. You bought this to play video games....not to control your neighbors RC car, or tap into the microwave in the kitchen, install some obscure app that darws oh's and ah's for a total of 5 minutes...or show off that you can get to the root off to your friends. Okay, so you did do that....who the F cares and who are you trying to impress? So what if you can now control 20 TV's with a moded PS3 and view your FLV files...I can do that my getting my ass off the couch or using the actual remote to begin with, or use an actual device that was intended to play video files in the right format....and not bricking my system that was intended only for games.
I want my PS3 to play Xbox360 games.
Gonna get haxxin on it tonight. I'll release the code this week
Gonna get haxxin on it tonight. I'll release the code this week
I´m glad i didnt screw with my ps3.I´m not against Sony´s anti-piracy tactics, but i feel that people should be able to do whatever they want with the hardware they paid for. If one single customer who didnt modify his ps3 for piracy purposes unexpectedly wins an overpriced paperweight, the news will spread and that´ll hurt sales. Rival companies might be the ones who profit the most with this.
Quoted for mother fucking truth! The number of people who think all homebrew does is allow piracy is staggering. Every time I go into a thread about this issue anywhere (not just on this site but everywhere), I immediately find myself wanting so smash my head into the nearest wall over and over again until I forget the nonsense I have seen.LegendaryGamer0 said:
Hate on pirates specifically, not on all homebrewers! I feel bad for the people who wanted to use this for innocent purposes and got their consoles bricked, because this comes after Sony screwed them over in the first place by removing and advertised feature. The pirates who got boned get a hearty, Nelson-style "HA HA!" from me though.
Umm, if emulators are only legal when you own the hardware, then why not skip the middleman and use the hardware?LegendaryGamer0 said:
Or just use the PC emulator?