Dante Takes to the Air in New DmC Trailer

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Halo Fanboy said:
What does that have to do with anything? I don't know what point you making.
You said something about NES/SNES games, right? I couldn't really think of any game from that far back that could be comparable to Ninja Gaiden or DMC or whatever, so I said something about hack n' slash or whatever.

I guess I was wrong about God Hand lol, I forget about the number quick timer events in that game. I was convinced that the slowdown was added in by the trailer for a while. Don't know what your talking about with Shinobi though. Anyway if your're saying that the slowdown doesn't correlate to fluidity, well those cinematic moments in God Hand are easily the least fluid parts of a game which is normally filled with fast dodges and cancels. Devil May Cry doesn't have slowdown moves cause you can cancel pretty much every move. I can't imagine a previous DMC game having this slowdown because it doesn't suit the game, a sign of this game's divergence. The slowdown system only works under a different set of circumstances.
I don't think that the occasional slowdown or emphasis on moves really detract from it. To put in perspective, in Ninja Theory's last game, Enslaved, they only did the slowdown technique when you finished off the last enemy in the area. I will say that despite the game having some pretty standard combat, it did have a very physical feel to it. Every hit gave a satisfying sound effect, the animation made it look like Monkey was exerting enough force to equal the blow, all that good stuff. It wasn't especially deep or complex, but it definitely felt physical, which I personally enjoyed. From what I remember of Bayonetta, I think I also enjoyed that combat system for similar reasons, which is odd considering it's from the same guy as DMC.

From what I'm looking at, it seems that NT are trying to bring that same combat feel only faster and more fluid. Could work could not, I dunno.
 

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I don't honestly understand your point. You've alluded that you like slowdown, again. You've complimented Ninja Theory. What does that have to do with cinematic gaming or how actual fluid combat systems are designed? And NES games aren't comparable to a cinematic game because they don't have enough cinematic attack variety? I can only interpret that as tautological.
 

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Jumplion said:
I don't honestly understand your point. You've alluded that you like slowdown, again. You've complimented Ninja Theory. What does that have to do with cinematic gaming or how actual fluid combat systems are designed? And NES games aren't comparable to a cinematic game because they don't have enough cinematic attack variety? I can only interpret that as tautological.
I'm see it more as the slowdown/cinematic whatever doesn't always clash with fluid combat systems. Like the previous links I showed, and for Bayonetta (at least for me, personally). It's nice to have some emphasis on particularly badass moves, and many times those slowdowns/camera techniques occur at times where the player has to specifically earn it (like performing a supah combo or whatever). I don't know about the NES thing myself, so let's drop that.
 

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...I'm not really sure to be honest. On some sites you'll hear that it's a prequel, on others you'll hear that it's an alternate universe thing and that what we're seeing is actually a completely different Dante. Then you gotta consider that DMC3 was a prequel and doing a prequel to a prequel just seems odd as far as I'm concerned...
Makes sense when you learn than Capcom hates DMC2, in fact, 3 and 4 both take place before 2 because Capcom doesn't want to make more games with the DMC2 Dante. Since, as you said, doing a prequel to a prequel just seems odd, I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason they made this a reboot is so they never have to deal with DMC2 again.
 

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did you see old dante at 0:36? what was the point of doing this whole new design if you are just going to go back on it? grow a pair!
Thats just what he looks like when you engage devil trigger mode.
 

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Sweet. Now I'm really looking forward to this game.

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Well gameplay looks fine, i just hate this emo Dantentein look they're going with especially since the lead developer's appearance is suspiciously similar to this new "Dante"
Did you notice the brief appearance of DMC3-looks Dante? It's around 0:34.

I'm willing to bet that's what he looks like by endgame.
 

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I'm not a fan of the new Dante look, but I do think that the game will include a reason for Dante to get his trademark white hair, perhaps through the first awakening of his demonic side.

With that said, he's clearly affected by author surrogate syndrome for the moment, which is unacceptable. If the head of NT needs to be the basis of the character, at least have the sense to change him even more so that it looks like no one in particular.

Author surrogates are nearly always an example of very bad character development, unless the author is purposefully writing a story about his own past. I doubt that this will be the case here.
 

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Aiddon said:
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no, it looks NOTHING like a DMC game. This trailer is nothing short of ass. Fuck NT's pretentious, holier-than-thou, borderline racist attitude towards what made the series fun and popular. They're a bunch of talentless hacks who need to be taken down a notch
I am seriously curious, what the fuck does this bolded part even mean?

How is this borderline racist? At all?
Antoniades saying awhile back that Dante was "too Japanesey" and "he would be laughed out of any bar outside of Tokyo". Translation: "Anything from Japan sucks BALLS". Fuck that stuffy, crybaby Limey. Maybe if he learned a little humility NT's games wouldn't be such flops commercially.
You are aware that calling someone out for being racist with the line "crybaby limey" is a little ironic, right?

Incidentally, saying that a character's design borrows too much from one particular nation's fashion aesthetics is hardly what I'd call racism.
 

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I don't think that these matters really pertain to anything racial, or national. It's just not the way Dante used to look, and the similarities to the NT leader are disturbing.

If you're a strong fan of DMC I'd imagine that the feeling would be like someone getting their ugly mits on your childhood memories and squeezing them until they scream.

People are a bit afraid of change, and I think that that's a bit of a fault. On the other hand, this is clearly not the best way to be revitalising the franchise.
 

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Well all i can do is wait til the reviews come out for it. maybe then i will consider renting it. ( I will not buy it due to my views on Ninja Theory). If your curious about my views, just look at how bad the last Metroid game was and tell me they won't do the same to Devil May Cry.
 

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Grotch Willis said:
Well all i can do is wait til the reviews come out for it. maybe then i will consider renting it. ( I will not buy it due to my views on Ninja Theory). If your curious about my views, just look at how bad the last Metroid game was and tell me they won't do the same to Devil May Cry.
You're getting Team Ninja, which made Metroid: Other M, and Ninja Theory, which is making DmC, mixed up.
 

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Aiddon said:
Dante gains access to it in DMC 3 (first game chronologically) and that's after being impaled on his own sword Rebellion, which is responsible for awakening it. Since he lacks Rebellion here, he has no possible way of activating the Devil Trigger.
I got my money on his dad's devil blood starting to show in him, then again I haven't slept in about 26 hours so I could just be crazy.
 

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Mr. Gency said:
anthony87 said:
...I'm not really sure to be honest. On some sites you'll hear that it's a prequel, on others you'll hear that it's an alternate universe thing and that what we're seeing is actually a completely different Dante. Then you gotta consider that DMC3 was a prequel and doing a prequel to a prequel just seems odd as far as I'm concerned...
Makes sense when you learn than Capcom hates DMC2, in fact, 3 and 4 both take place before 2 because Capcom doesn't want to make more games with the DMC2 Dante. Since, as you said, doing a prequel to a prequel just seems odd, I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason they made this a reboot is so they never have to deal with DMC2 again.
Links to Tv Tropes....

You good sir have now hours of my life :D
 

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Besides, real life is boring. Why are video game developers obsessed with replicating boring real life? We can just go outside if we want realism.
I imagine because they still think that, for the majority of potential customers, outside is a strange new frontier.

So tired of every AAA title that comes out seems to be gritty and brown. Can someone please make an engine that's better than the Unreal one and actually allows COLOR.
Then don't play AAA games then, simple :p try Patapon or Black Twisted Planet for a sharp twat-in-the-face of violent colour.
The only AAA games I'm investing in is Bioware games as they still have the fantastical element in their games. If you squint Mass Effect feels like a Fantasy RPG, mainly due to the hyper-advance technology.
 

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I just wanna start this by saying that everyone bitching and moaning about Dante's hair are coming across as more anal-retentive than my best mate's girlfriend before a night out. It's just hair, it isn't that important.

Feeding into this, I have no problem with Dante being dark-haired. I actually really like his new look a lot. [sub]Then again I have kind of a "thing" for emo guys...[/sub]

But yeah, this looks absolutely fantastic. Of course I speak as someone who's only ever played Devil May Cry 4, so what the fuck do I know, right? But it looks absolutely fine.

I mean, if you give me a choice between this:



or this:



I am always going to go for the 2nd one because to me the guy just looks far more awesome with the new look.