So the developers got lazy and didn't feel like putting in the work to make the best PC port they could. That's fine I'll just pick up DSII like I did with DS... in the bargain bin of $5 or less. You get paid the effort you put in
Like we won't be able to download something to fix this shit. Why do you care anyways?CharrHearted said:And now I'm laughing my ass off at all the PC elitist cry babies on here crying and pointing their fingers at consoles, claiming its their fault, and which a lot of you are claiming the game isn't worth a buy if it isn't in "SUPERULTRA GRAPHICAL MODE ACTIVATE OMG" I beat dark souls 2 in a few days, its not that spectacular, a forgettable story, a ton of bosses and plenty of dying. Thats. About. it.
Seriously PC elitists, try to enjoy a game for once in your life without sounding like an over opinionated spoilt rich kid?
The things is, I'm not saying that developers should rely on modders to do their job, nor that "all" people should stop caring about stuff like this, but rather that there's always going to be someone that cares enough about making the game look "better" in order to put the effort into it, not saying "this devs get a free pass" on the subject or anything like that, but I didn't see any "this is going to be THE graphical monster" like Watch Dogs did a long time ago, but a simple "it'll look better on PC" which it will probably do anyways, since it isn't that hard to make it look better than on a 7(?) year old console, but just not in the "Extremely HD" way that some people might've expected.rhizhim said:so where are the watchdogs graphics angry mob whne you need them?
except they(from software) is getting your money to do a job they promissed and its not the modders job to do it and guess what the modders will get in return for this.Grabehn said:snip
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people shouldnt take good will from fans for granted. not even the companies who create the product.
Just had to quote this because it's, well, the truth.Cybylt said:Personally, I was a little bothered by the "Easy Mode" idea because I think people mistake the difficulty from coming strictly from enemy damage/defense when it's not and that's all that the people saying "Well why not add an easy mode?" were offering. Most of the difficulty of the games comes in it punishing you for mistakes that are easy to point out in hindsight if you sprung them or easily spotted if you take the game at a slower pace, as intended, not from slogging through a monster with high health and damage.
I'm all for ways that make the game more approachable to newcomers or offer some help to people who need it, but it should be done within the game, not a menu. That's why they added stuff like the Way of the Blue/Blue Sentinels, that's why they changed the matchmaking system in NG to stop the low level griefing, and that's why they have a more thorough tutorial zone. Just adding "easy" isn't going to do anybody, especially new players, any good with the way this series is built.
I imagine it has more to do with the general comments you find on Dark Souls playthroughs, either on Youtube or streamed on Twitch.Branindain said:What exactly is it you don't like? I can tell you, from the inside, it's about as good a fan base as I've been a part of. We get characterised as "elitist" yet if you need help and put a query out there you will get a number of detailed, helpful, friendly responses.
I'm not really "refuting" anything. My experience doesn't gel with what I've been hearing, so I honestly asked where people were finding these idiot Souls fans. You've answered that question: in the comments on YouTube. I don't read the comments on YouTube (because they tend to be morons in every case) so I believe that. However, there are still a ton of awesome Souls fans out there, many on this website alone.shrekfan246 said:I imagine it has more to do with the general comments you find on Dark Souls playthroughs, either on Youtube or streamed on Twitch.Branindain said:What exactly is it you don't like? I can tell you, from the inside, it's about as good a fan base as I've been a part of. We get characterised as "elitist" yet if you need help and put a query out there you will get a number of detailed, helpful, friendly responses.
Pretty much the worst thing a human being can do is record/stream their first, blind playthrough of a Souls game, because a great number of the fans of the series will rage and ***** and moan to heaven and back about how the player didn't know every little thing about the areas and enemies and items and weapons and armor and how to level.
And really, try not to attribute generalizations to other player-bases if you're going to try refuting the existence of a similar group in your own. The only reason you see less "Learn 2 play teh game, noob" comments about Dark Souls compared to World of Warcraft is because World of Warcraft has roughly five times the userbase (and that's just going by actual sales of the game, which is almost assuredly a much higher percentage than people who still play/play online/will post on dedicated forums). Yes, much hostility is brought in by the people who will vehemently oppose those they think are 'shoving' Dark Souls in their faces, but many fans of Dark Souls tend to be just as ardent in their defense of it.
OT: As long as it runs on my PC, I really couldn't care less about this. In fact, I would assume this makes it more likely that I'll be able to play Dark Souls II, which I'm perfectly okay with because current plans in my life mean that I may be 1,500 miles away from my consoles in four or five months, so I'm trying to avoid buying new games for them.
Indeed. If they have given you a try and then downgraded the graphics afterwards then this is a perfect case of every suffers because there still are people using obsolete technology from 10 years ago (360 and PS3).josemlopes said:Yes, as in you could actually download and play it yourself in your PS3. It would have been expected that the full game would at least look the same or better, right?Strazdas said:Was beta gameplay live? because trailers can be prerendered quite easily to the point of allowing it to render the script for a day or needed. (and more, ect)
Certain games seem to bring out the worse in people in that respect; games with stats and skills that people can't conceivably think of someone else playing differently than the way they played. There's no other way to beat a boss than with the weapon they used and with the build they used or you're playing the game wrong.shrekfan246 said:I imagine it has more to do with the general comments you find on Dark Souls playthroughs, either on Youtube or streamed on Twitch.
Pretty much the worst thing a human being can do is record/stream their first, blind playthrough of a Souls game, because a great number of the fans of the series will rage and ***** and moan to heaven and back about how the player didn't know every little thing about the areas and enemies and items and weapons and armor and how to level.
And really, try not to attribute generalizations to other player-bases if you're going to try refuting the existence of a similar group in your own. The only reason you see less "Learn 2 play teh game, noob" comments about Dark Souls compared to World of Warcraft is because World of Warcraft has roughly five times the userbase (and that's just going by actual sales of the game, which is almost assuredly a much higher percentage than people who still play/play online/will post on dedicated forums). Yes, much hostility is brought in by the people who will vehemently oppose those they think are 'shoving' Dark Souls in their faces, but many fans of Dark Souls tend to be just as ardent in their defense of it.
OT: As long as it runs on my PC, I really couldn't care less about this. In fact, I would assume this makes it more likely that I'll be able to play Dark Souls II, which I'm perfectly okay with because current plans in my life mean that I may be 1,500 miles away from my consoles in four or five months, so I'm trying to avoid buying new games for them.
Y'know if they just came out and said that i'd be a lot happier, but when the stuff just gets pulled with no explanation, people tend to assume the worst.zerragonoss said:In all honesty it probably just makes the game play better. There are a few strange artifacts left, but not having much of the game require a torch seems like a big improvement. I would not actually be surprised if getting feed back the the all darkness was not a fun thing was one of the reason for the change.Quellist said:I didn't really care until I read how the dynamic lighting system was tied into gameplay. Shiny graphics I can do without but when a central mechanic is just removed I get a bit miffed. Think I'll pass on this for the time being.
Elfgore said:From the outside looking in, The Souls fanbase is very elitist. Remember the whole Dark Souls 2 easy mode fiasco? That was my first encounter with the fanbase. And I'll I saw was a bunch of people complaining about casuals entering their game. Then I've seen some people here scorn Watch_Dogs for lying about graphics, but not Dark Souls becuase all that matters is gameplay. I've seen some treat it like an idol that can do no wrong. That's why I don't care for the fanbase.Branindain said:What exactly is it you don't like? I can tell you, from the inside, it's about as good a fan base as I've been a part of. We get characterised as "elitist" yet if you need help and put a query out there you will get a number of detailed, helpful, friendly responses. Compare that to so many other games (like WoW for instance) where daring to ask a question instantly marks you as a worthless noob to be sarcastically misled at best, and randomly abused at worst. Also, if you look at some old Souls threads, I think you'll find that if there's hostility in there it's usually being brought in from outside, from one of a number of passionate haters who believe their taste is objectively right for some reason.Elfgore said:I have a massive grin on my face right now. I can't wait to see how the Dark Souls fans come justify this. (if it is true.) I'm expecting a lot of denial and "gameplay is all that matters." arguments.
Though I do hope it isn't true. I don't hate dark souls, I just really don't like the fanbase.
And for my part, I genuinely don't give a flying fuck about graphics and never have, which is why I was content to buy the PS3 version in the first place. I guess PC Master Racers are likely to be annoyed though.
Note: These are once again just my view from outside the fanbase. I've never been a part of it, so feel free to enlighten me if anything is wrong. (this isn't sarcasm btw.)