Day one DLC?

[SonOfVoorhees]

All this ME3 (keep reading....i have a point to make) outrage over day one dlc is dumb. Mostly because the character was meant to be Collectors Edition only and Bioware could have made it so. An if that was the case then people would be pissed that they wouldnt get the prothean unless they bought a £70 game.

Now, my argument is. What if they waited 3 months before releasing the DLC? Would that really matter? Personally, I would rather have the character now as I doubt I will be playing ME3 after 3 weeks so waiting 3 months is pointless. Do i really want to play the game again, (i plan 3 playthroughs) just with a new character that wont add much at all? Wouldn't you rather have him to play for your first or second playthrough?

So is releasing the Prothean character for £10 3 months later really worth it? Wouldn't you rather play as the Prothean day one than wait 3 months for the honour?

I agree with the money aspect and that releasing it on day one can seem money grabbing. But really, do you think waiting 3 months makes a difference? An wouldnt you rather have him sooner than later? When you think about it, if you are that annoyed, just buy the DLC in 3 months time.

 

[Aerosteam]

You could have easily made this post on another Arse Defect 3 thread, but I understand that you made a whole different thread so it will be seen by a lot more people.

I plan to buy that DLC, regardless of price and date released. I seen your point, it being better available the first day instead of months later.

In most cases with others, it's not the date, but the price. Some people feel entitled to the DLC and believe it should come free with the game, since you know how important the Protheans are in the ME universe, especially a live one. (No, I don't personally think it's that important.)

 

[Diablo2000]

The problem is not "I have to pay extra for a character", I don't have problem if they are good character. The problem is that day one DLC passes a massage and that massage is "We could have included that in the game but we decided to make a few extra bucks instead so suck it up, you worthless worm, we know you buy it anyway"

That sad thing is we will buy it anyway...

 

[Weaver]

I think what we really needed was another thread about this.

 

[Aris Khandr]

The problem is not "I have to pay extra for a character", I don't have problem if they are good character. The problem is that day one DLC passes a massage and that massage is "We could have included that in the game but we decided to make a few extra bucks instead so suck it up, you worthless worm, we know you buy it anyway"

They did put it into the game. In the Collector's Edition. Which they told you they were going to do months ago.

 

[Diablo2000]

The problem is not "I have to pay extra for a character", I don't have problem if they are good character. The problem is that day one DLC passes a massage and that massage is "We could have included that in the game but we decided to make a few extra bucks instead so suck it up, you worthless worm, we know you buy it anyway"

They did put it into the game. In the Collector's Edition. Which they told you they were going to do months ago.

So my options are pay more for it or pay more for it?

 

[Thoric485]

Great thread, OP! The developers are really doing us a favor by giving us the opportunity to buy the content now in one easy payment of 9.99$, instead of holding out on it for months like some unprofessional Polish studios do.

Really, what would be the point of DLC if everyone who bought the game got it for free? The Prothean companion and all the other exciting DLC packs are the mark of a true BioWare? fan! I would envy the one who manages to collect them all, haha!

By the way, where did everybody pre-order their game from? I pre-ordered it digitally from EA's top distribution service - Origin? [http://origin.com]. It's really great!

Use this exclusive promotion code now for a 10? discount - ISCK-DCKS-BYCH-OICE

 

[Aris Khandr]

The problem is not "I have to pay extra for a character", I don't have problem if they are good character. The problem is that day one DLC passes a massage and that massage is "We could have included that in the game but we decided to make a few extra bucks instead so suck it up, you worthless worm, we know you buy it anyway"

They did put it into the game. In the Collector's Edition. Which they told you they were going to do months ago.

So my options are pay more for it or pay more for it?

Would you rather they not offer it to non-CE buyers at all? Because that's how a lot of things used to go. Get the CE, or miss out entirely.

 

[GonzoGamer]

The problem is not "I have to pay extra for a character", I don't have problem if they are good character. The problem is that day one DLC passes a massage and that massage is "We could have included that in the game but we decided to make a few extra bucks instead so suck it up, you worthless worm, we know you buy it anyway"

That sad thing is we will buy it anyway...

The really sad thing is that more and more people aren't buying it anyway.
I know I don't. I hate crap like that and online pass, so I don't buy any games that use that crap.

That's the problem with day 1 dlc. It's like they're not even trying to put across the notion that they listened to the fans and said "hey we should add that" which is what they used to do back in the day when this kind of stuff was only done on the pc. But really it's become quite obvious that 95% of dlc sold now-a-days are just parts of the original game that have been carves away to be sold separately.
So even when they do wait, I'm still suspicious of how much of the content could/should have been included with the original release. Look at the gta4 dlc. A lot of the toys and stuff they added into BoGT are things that you would normally unlock in a GTA game by playing through it, but for gta4 we had to unlock it all with a $20 purchase.

Really the only DLC I've seen this generation that I think was made thoughtfully (meaning the actually considered what the fans want added) and with a good value (meaning that the consumer got a good amount of content for their money) is the dlc that was made for Borderlands.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Hidden extra costs and content pinching is always a welcome addition to my games, I don't see why people have problems with it

We have been over this so many times and the end point will always be the same, the consumers will consume no matter the price and that is what EA is playing on.

 

[natster43]

I think it has less to do with the day and more with there is probably (almost definitely) data for the character already on the disc, so they are mad they have to pay for it and that the game should be delayed to finish the character and have it be free.
Please correct me if this is wrong, but one generation ago we would have had stuff on the disc that we are either not finished or inaccessible because of time constraints, and the only way to get it would either be an updated release that would cost probably about 50 dollars or just not get the content at all.

 

[Dandark]

It's a good job we have another thread going on about the anger about the DLC is stupid and then explaining the exact same argument while yet again completely missing the point of why people are annoyed.

I mean phew, I almost thought this thread was going to actully have something new in it but nope, apparently posting in one of the other 5 threads about this wasn't enough, we needed to hear the exact same thing again, but in a brand new thread because that will clearly convince us that we are all entitled gamers and the DLC is nothing to complain about.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I think it is all bullshit myself. I wouldn't buy the DLC 15 days, months, or years later and I won't buy it on day 1. I am also skipping out on the entire game because of all of the crap associated with Mass Effect 3 and Origin in addition to that.
The fact gamers are becoming used to DLC as just part of the process is annoying. The more you keep buying that shit, the more of it is coming out. Eventually they will finish a game and just release it in 50 dollar episodes, drop 200 bucks to finish the game. Oh wait...

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Great thread, OP! The developers are really doing us a favor by giving us the opportunity to buy the content now in one easy payment of 9.99$, instead of holding out on it for months like some unprofessional Polish studios do.

Really, what would be the point of DLC if everyone who bought the game got it for free? The Prothean companion and all the other exciting DLC packs are the mark of a true BioWare? fan! I would envy the one who manages to collect them all, haha!

By the way, where did everybody pre-order their game from? I pre-ordered it digitally from EA's top distribution service - Origin? [http://origin.com]. It's really great!

Use this exclusive promotion code now for a 10? discount - ISCK-DCKS-BYCH-OICE

I'll be looking for hidden messages in all unlock keys from now on.

OT: This is a shitty practice that I would like to see quashed. We got the relationship between business and consumer confused somewhere along the way. They're supposed to impress us to get our money, and there's nothing impressive about EA and Bioware lately.

 

[linwolf]

If a good game have day one DLC I will skip the game completely. If a great game have day one DLC I will get the game ones I see it for $10 or less. It is about the same rule I have with some of the more aggressive forms of DRM. I don't want the the industry to think the can do whatever they want.
It does help that even on the best of times game have a hard time compete with books for my money and they only have to add way little bullshit, before I find that a new book and replaying a older game will give me greater value for the same cost.

 

[Blazing Steel]

It convinced me to buy the collector's edition. So yea .

EDIT: I don't like day 1 DLC where they cut something out of the game and charge you at launch but this is different. They made the DLC after the game was complete, so no problem right? Well you seem to have a problem with them charging you money for something they made. Thats just damn right crazy! Acting like a business and such...

 

[chadachada123]

I don't like their business model. I prefer when companies give the tiny shit like this away to *everyone* that purchases new, and leave "collectors" editions to having physical cool stuff and not just downloadable stuff.

I'm not saying they're "evil," and I don't speak for others, but I personally prefer companies that do a bit extra for the consumer, which will get plenty more sales than being kinda dickish like Bioware.

 

[Jfswift]

As a consumer you should always demand lower prices, anything else is just insanity.

 

[Mayhemski]

Not so much got an issue with Day 1 DLC available for everyone, or bonus content for people that pre-order a game sight unseen*.

My issue is support, I just re-installed Dragon Age Origins and had to go through a load of rigmarole just to get the DLC that I had, it was laborious and quite technical, not personally daunting but I could see and know others who would struggle to have got the content to work. What happens in another 5 years when I decide to fire up DA:O? Is the content going to be there I don't know? And while that is a real risk with any digital purchase - I feel far more wary about maintaining access to DLC than a full game.

*to big a risk to my mind as I'm a PC gamer and buggy piece of s*** is a phrase that is applicable to way to many releases going back a very long time, guess it's also very true of console releases as well.

 

[Phlakes]

So my options are pay more for it or pay more for it?

...Yes. Because it's extra content. Last I checked people paid for extra content. If I want cheese on a burger I pay more. If I want big speakers in my car I pay more.