DC Says One Of Its"Iconic" Heroes Is Gay

[Calibanbutcher]

I just want to say, that there is no way it's gonna be batman.
Seriously, what light would that shed on him having lived with a teenage-boy for, um, 75ish years?

 

[ReservoirAngel]

I'm putting money on either Nightwing or Red Robin. I know it says "iconic" but Dick Grayson and Tim Drake are pretty well-known in the DC Universe.

 

[jizzytissue]

if it's not a girl guess which company is going out of buissness lol srsly thou if it is a ****** i'll be sure to throw up everywhere

 

[ReiverCorrupter]

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Uggh, strangely another example of a weirdly pervasive trope derived from a single showing flavoring everything that comes after. IE Dark Knight Returns.

If we were to lay it out, the first DC character that would pop into your mind with the word "arrogant" PROBABLY wouldn't be Big Blue. You know, the guy that happily plays a bumbling fool to safeguard the people he loves. I'm gonna throw out there that guessing Batman however would win you Family Feud. You know what with his plans to kill his fellow good guys constantly getting stolen by bad guys.

Everyone gets stupid around Batman now because all those teenagers that read DKR have grown up now to be the writers. One of the few exceptions being Morrison, but he made Aquaman cool so maybe coolness need not be a zero sum game or a pissing contest like most other writers make it. I say this for the obvious notion that the big thing about DKR regarding the World's Finest was that Superman was stumped by Batman's various gambits. It's really too bad Superman to that point in their lives hadn't faced down motivated, super rich and super intelligent humans that wanted nothing more to humble him (if not murder his ass) for like literally decades...oh wait.

The fact Superman had to have his "I created a crosstime/cross dimension computer" level intellect eliminated to carve out a niche for Batman is telling. The same character (albeit different iteration) who in CoIE was relegated to basically PRAYING for the day to be saved. Funny how things change I guess.

Erm... okay... pedantic allusions to comic book series I've never read aside... what I find arrogant about superman is more of his style of fighting than his motivations. He tends to rely upon brute strength more than anything else (though perhaps that was only the improper non-canon version of superman portrayed in the cartoons I used to watch as a kid). So what I was referring to was his assumption that Batman couldn't do anything to him. Granted he does do clever things on occasion, but he just seems overpowered and far too aware of the fact. In the more mainstream portrayals of Superman that I'm familiar with, he tends to constantly get himself in trouble by rushing in head first without thinking. But maybe those are the vulgar versions of Superman made to appeal to the unsophisticated rabble.

His motivations are admittedly pretty humble considering that he probably has the power to change society and he generally just devotes himself to preserving justice and peace. (Though I'm admittedly ignorant of the vast majority of his background outside of the 90's cartoon series and movies, and I'll give you that he did have more of a positive role when he acted as an objective means to get rid of the world's ICBMs in Superman III).

To be honest, I generally rooted for Lex Luther as a kid, I saw him as the social outcast trying to change society through his own intellect, whereas Superman represented the brute strength of main stream society and the herd instinct crushing abnormality. Though, admittedly Superman is also an outcast in a different and less subtle sense (i.e. he's an alien), and Luther could be taken to represent the wealthy corrupt elite that runs society. If you're going to argue that there's a canon version of Superman, and that I'm just mistaken, then sure. In that case we're really just talking about two different things.

 

[The Genius]

Is Moon Knight a DC character?

Nope. Marvel.

Pity. The jokes would have written themselves.

 

[Fijiman]

Come one, we all know it's going to be Aquaman.

My brother is hoping this as well. I don't really care considering I don't read the comics at all.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

It's the Atom or the original Green Lantern, Alan Scott.

DC have said that it's someone who hasn't been introduced into DCs new 52 universe yet. That narrows down the list considerably to a handful of iconic names who are going to be introduced in the next few months; Captain Marvel, Green Lantern (Alan Scott), and the Atom.

Atom is the only one who hasn't appeared in or out of costume. Captain Marvel almost certainly isn't a candidate, since he's a kid half the time any relationship is going to spawn some awkward questions. Alan Scott may be The answer, but he has appeared in Earth 2, just not in costume.

I think DC have seriously missed a trick here in not making Wonder Woman gay. It makes so much sense it's bizarre that it hasn't happened yet.

Oh, and Aquaman's very straight. He's the only DC superhero with a smoking hot wife right now for one thing.

 

[Kanatatsu]

not reading 400+ posts to find out if someone has already asked if Aquaman likes fish sticks ...

 

[keneth231742]

DC isn't going to do it to their two main money maker, batman and superman. Aqua-man would be considered a cop-out for obvious reasons,and green arrow would also be a cop-out because he is not that well know by the general populace. This matters because the whole point of the the DC reboot was to broaden the audience. This leaves us with Green lantern, and flash. Green lantern having recently been made in to a movie, albeit a shit one, would fit the need of broad recognition also the military background would give him a real world tie-in IE: don't ask don't tell being removed. Lastly flash, having not been all that familiar with him ,I haven't read any flash comics, I cant comment on him. So my best guess is Green Lantern.

 

[DeimosMasque]

For people saying Aquaman and Flash: Aquaman in his current run is married happily and they've made sure to let us know that exact fact. Flash has just begun (re)pursuing his wife before the reboot Iris, so it's not going to be either of them.

A few people have mentioned the Atom, but parts of Identity Crisis and Blackest Night are still in canon with the reboot where longtime girlfriend of the Atom is an important point -because- she's his long time (ex)girlfriend. So he's out

The major money seems to be on Alan Scott (Golden Age Green Lantern) as his story went from married father of two, to single multimedia mogul who lives alone in his fabulous penthouse.

 

[DeimosMasque]

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Batman though. Making Batman gay? What would that actually change, that people would have a problem against? So Bats and Vicki Vale never happened? Tali Al Ghul never got it on with him?
Uh, big whoop. While significantly large story arcs, they aren't exactly synonymous with Batman. I mean, you can't picture Supes without Lois. But does Batman have a definitive love interest? Not really. I mean, it would make a lot of sense if Batman's past and post-reboot flings with Cat-Woman were one-sided affairs. There never was any real chemistry there anyway, just poorly disguised porn.

Actually in Grant Morrison's Heart of Hush storyline Bruce admitted that he was very much in love with Catwoman and always had been. They have also shown more of this in later issues where he has has risked his reputation, his company and more when he has been in relationships with her.

And while his relationship with Talia hasn't been the synonymous with the Batman mythos his current Robin is the result of him sleeping with Talia so it makes little sense for it to suddenly be retconned away.

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How significant are the romance stories for Green Arrow, or Martian Manhunter, or Zatanna, or Wally West, Ted Kord, Guy Gardner, Booster Gold(I could totally see him as gay), or Captain Marvel?

Green Arrow's on and off relationship with Black Canary is a defining part of both characters

Zatanna's backstory involves her failed relationship with John Constantine who they just brought back into the DCU

Martian Manhunter's entire angst comes from him losing his wife and child in the battles that killed the martians

Guy Gardner's most recent character arc involved him finally acting like a grown up and realizing his feeling for Ice (granted they backed off that since the reboot a bit)

Booster Gold is a notorious ladies man both in the suit and out of it

Ted Kord had a cyber love affair with Barbra Gordon that left him both sorry they never truly got together when he died but also devastated Barbara to no small ends.

Wally West's love for Donna Troy brought her back from the dead once (granted that story and the New Teen Titans and The Titans stories never happened so he's a good choice too for the gay character.)

And the reboot is rewriting Captain Marvel... er I'm sorry Shazam, as an asshole teenager who possess the powers of magic so I doubt they care to make him gay really. But really he's thirteen so dealing with him being gay would be interesting and your right, romance has never really been a focus on his characters.

Sure, I totally agree that making Superman gay would be a bad move, but no one said it's going to be superman, so your point lacks applicability since not everyone is Superman.
In fact, DC said that it was a character not yet introduced in the New 52.

I agree with pretty much everything else you said though and I don't mean to sound heated if I come off that way.

 

[aba1]

As long as they don't got the Batwoman route and point out every two seconds that she's a lesbian, it's fine. Nothing against anyone at any point on the spectrum of sexuality, it's just that I object to DC dancing around going 'look how politically correct we are!'

I was actually going to start reading batwoman and that is exactly what turned me off of it oddly enough.

 

[Omenseer]

Can't be Aquaman, he's the only hero who actually kept his wife and the joke is too obvious. From what I read of the reboot chances are its going to be Green Arrow.

 

[Omenseer]

Also, does it count as "Outing" if they are making a character that was in all previous dimensions and continuities straight gay?

 

[DeimosMasque]

Can't be Aquaman, he's the only hero who actually kept his wife and the joke is too obvious. From what I read of the reboot chances are its going to be Green Arrow.

In regards to Aquaman I was rather impressed how they recognized what the "joke" about Aquaman was and referenced it and proved it wrong. People make jokes based on the Super-Friends show but in reality he's super-strong, can fly (they dropped it to Hulk-like leaping in New 52), and has a level of invulnerability too. He's also deeply in love with his wife Mera, who have only recently been reunited thanks to Blackest Night (which is partly still in canon.)

Green Arrow... hadn't heard that yet. But DC has revised it's statement to say "Iconic" and not introduced in the New 52 yet.

Which once again leads me to Alan Scott who they have rewritten from scratch even making him an actual Green Lantern rather than something separate from the rest of the Green Lantern Corps.

 

[captaincabbage]

One of DC's main superheroes is gay?

Why, whoever could it be??

 

[Mr_Terrific]

How much do you want to bet they make the Superman of Earth 2 gay. His costume already looks pretty gay.

It can't be Barry Allen.
It's probably Green Arrow because he's no longer in a relationship with Canary.
It's not Batman since he's banging Catwoman and has a kid with Talia...that and Bob Kane would s*** himself in his grave.
It's not Superman for the same reason it's not Batman.
Not sure if Nightwing is Iconic but...yeah, could see him coming out.
Would be funny if it were the Penguin or Grodd or someone.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter as long as he's not Bunker from Teen Titans gay. Kate Kane is a fantastic example of Gay but not flaming.

 

[duchaked]

DC Says One Of Its "Iconic" Heroes Is Gay

maybe the quotes should be around "One" okay nvm too easy

but regardless I don't personally see this to be that big of a deal really

 

[SnakeoilSage]

I know which one it is, it's "Guys Marvel is having a gay wedding with two of their minor characters from Alpha Flight, it's like Canada's Avengers/X-Men and they only really appear as support characters in those comics they used to have their own series but c'mon they're Canadian but this is really huge guys we need to stop them 'cause Avengers is making so much money and we have to make someone teh gayz or we won't be able to make Booster Gold the movie where Draco Malfoy wears a suit made of CG so he looks like a blurry floating head with lame 90's ski goggles! Also D.L. Hughley is Skeets!"

Man. I remember when Marvel was threatening to go bankrupt.

 

[Mike Fang]

My money is on Green Arrow. Why? In the development of his character, DC created him to be a counterpart to Green Lantern when it came to socio-political issues. While GL represented primarily conservative viewpoints, Green Arrow represented the the more liberal ones. It would fit that he would turn out to be homosexual in that case.