Dead Space 2 Creative Director Denies Mocking Scientology

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Snooder

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The reason Unitology seems like Scientology is because Scientology is a parody of ALL religious and faith based organizations. Seriously, to those griping about how scientology steals your money, look up "plenary indulgences". The Scientology system isn't some weird aberration, it's simply too new and hasn't had all the rough edges smoothed off by time and tradition.

More importantly, unlike Scientology, which is entirely and CLEARLY made up, Unitology derives its belief from a mysterious and inexplicable but quite real object. Just as most religions/cults are essentially attempts to make sense of the inexplicable so is Unitology.
 

The Wykydtron

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Hmm I thought Unitology was quite similar to Scientology with the worshiping aliens thing, although only the fanatics really caused any real harm which is probably a commentary on cults and possibly the more hardcore religions

I guess they're saying "religion is all well and good until someone gets their eye poked out over it"
 

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robandall said:
With no hint that unitology requires financial payments to get involved it can't be a direct reference to Scientology. It would have been wet your pants hysterical if Altman was modelled after Tom Cruise though!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yeah never even saw the connection between the two religions in all my numerous playthroughs of the first game or my current playthrough to Dead Space 2.
 

ALPHATT

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Sciencetology is the kind of out of this world bullshit, that no sane person can take seriously.
 

guntotingtomcat

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Typical scientologists, lawyers on hold to scrounge as much money as possible out of any perceived slight at their ridiculous fairytale. It's a wonder that you Americans stand for this kind of thing! In Britain, we at least have the excuse of the pc culture.
 

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For all the work they spend trying to offend people's moms, they sure don't want to offend anyone else. I can see why they would want to try and stay away from any accusations. But, if you do actually play Dead Space (or especially watch Dead Space: Downfall) you'll see how his explanation does actually make a lot of sense.

EDIT: Jeeze, guys, you know this is a thread about Dead Space?
 

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Pararaptor said:
I can only pray he doesn't really mean what he's saying.
The irony is so shiny... its like iron.

OT: Scientology is in its own field and "Unitology" in Dead Space 2 was so far out their it made me laugh. It doesn't matter anyway, unless Tom Cruise takes offense. Wait did he stop being a Scientologist or am I behind on the latest Celeb update?
 

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Vault Citizen said:
Kroxile said:
Xzi said:
Cheeseman Muncher said:
Scientology =/= religion. Anything that requires you to spend vast sums of money to move up and learn more is nothing more than a scam.
Have you heard of Mormonism? Just checking.
I am a mormon. Where are you going with this? From where I stand it looks like a dead end.
I saw a video that claimed it described what Mormons believed in, would you mind taking a look and telling me if this is what you as a Mormon do believe in?

lol, no. Its pretty much just like being protestant (mormon convert here) except that we got the whole Joseph Smith thing.
 

Still Life

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Given Scientology's penchant for rampant lawsuits at the slightest criticisms, I really don't blame him.
 

Seneschal

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I think he's afraid of lawsuits. Scientologists are notorious for suing people into poverty for speaking against them.

But I like the idea that the marker is just alien technology so highly advanced that it looks like magic to us, something that our primitive lizard brain wants to worship and prostrate before.
 

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Xzi said:
Scientologists are one group that I really think you don't have to worry about offending. After all, they aren't really people with IQs that low.
Right, they don't toss out lawsuits all the time....oh wait.

I think he's protecting his pocketbook, which is understandable. As for the OP, no need to toss the word "fictional" infront of religion. We can tell when it's fictional (hint: It's in a video game.....or it's a religion)
 

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I always thought of it as "What if a bunch of crazy religious fanatics crossed paths with a bunch of genetically mutating space zombies?" type deal...They think Altman ( Insert a god here ) is coming to deliver them to their "Rebirth" when in fact they are eagerly awaiting a trap. In all of the things related to Dead Space you can see Unitoligy is mostly corrupt, it focuses too heavily on ascendancy ( their deaths ), and are too willing to kill / be killed for what they think is right. What they keep quiet about what most religions teach is stuff like "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" and a general peace of mind, which is something a religion is supposed to give to somebody.

I don't live in an area around any Scientologists and I played Dead Space 1,2, and all other related material unbiased and when I seen this thread I thought...man that sounds eerily familiar. I don't believe in coincidence and there are too many things that add up here...Visceral is smart enough to cover their asses from that fake religion, unless they ~want~ to get thrown under the bus. Remember the South Park 200th episode "Hey Stan, is that Tom Cruise?" "Oh wow, It is! hey guys check it out Tom Cruise is a fudge packer!"...SUED.
 

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I have to admit that my first thought concerning Unitology was the Scientology comparison but this was because of the name. After that i even made the Carl Sagan connection myself, since i was reading the book at the time
 

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Kroxile said:
Vault Citizen said:
Kroxile said:
Xzi said:
Cheeseman Muncher said:
Scientology =/= religion. Anything that requires you to spend vast sums of money to move up and learn more is nothing more than a scam.
Have you heard of Mormonism? Just checking.
I am a mormon. Where are you going with this? From where I stand it looks like a dead end.
I saw a video that claimed it described what Mormons believed in, would you mind taking a look and telling me if this is what you as a Mormon do believe in?

lol, no. Its pretty much just like being protestant (mormon convert here) except that we got the whole Joseph Smith thing.
This really isn't the place for a religious debate, I'd suggest PMing this back and forth.

After years in a religious thread, this is how the debate will go. The above will contest that Mormonism is silly, you will disagree due to your pick-and-choose version of the religion, the above will toss out the literal verses that show it's silly, you'll use apologetics, the above will say you use apologetics, you'll deny using apologetics, then the mean will start. Goes the same with every religious debate, really.
 

Kroxile

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Cliff_m85 said:
Kroxile said:
Vault Citizen said:
Kroxile said:
Xzi said:
Cheeseman Muncher said:
Scientology =/= religion. Anything that requires you to spend vast sums of money to move up and learn more is nothing more than a scam.
Have you heard of Mormonism? Just checking.
I am a mormon. Where are you going with this? From where I stand it looks like a dead end.
I saw a video that claimed it described what Mormons believed in, would you mind taking a look and telling me if this is what you as a Mormon do believe in?

lol, no. Its pretty much just like being protestant (mormon convert here) except that we got the whole Joseph Smith thing.
This really isn't the place for a religious debate, I'd suggest PMing this back and forth.

After years in a religious thread, this is how the debate will go. The above will contest that Mormonism is silly, you will disagree due to your pick-and-choose version of the religion, the above will toss out the literal verses that show it's silly, you'll use apologetics, the above will say you use apologetics, you'll deny using apologetics, then the mean will start. Goes the same with every religious debate, really.
The dude asked a question and I answered him. No intention of debating anything. I see that you're just trying to preempt a shitstorm but its not going to devolve into that.
 

hansari

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Cheeseman Muncher said:
Scientology =/= religion. Anything that requires you to spend vast sums of money to move up and learn more is nothing more than a scam.
Have you heard of graduate school D:
 

Aurora219

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I liked this story. But it's a shame. Scientology ought to be mocked at every availability, and this was a golden opportunity missed. Damn that whole PR thing!
 

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Nick Holmgren said:
Xzi said:
daemon37 said:
Xzi said:
Cheeseman Muncher said:
Scientology =/= religion. Anything that requires you to spend vast sums of money to move up and learn more is nothing more than a scam.
Have you heard of Mormonism? Just checking.
[cough] catholicism [cough]
We can probably all just agree that 99% of involvement in any religion entails getting suckered out of your money.
yeah, scientology == just another religion, it just happens they are the only evil and sci-fi themed one (unless some new Zealand folk are on the dark side)
Oi! What's with us zealanders now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealand

That's where I live! We ain't evil. Honest.
 

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LightspeedJack said:
I call shenanigans on this one. This is just Visceral trying to cover their ass from any potential lawsuits/corperate sabotage from those wacky scientologists.
Can you really blame them? If you take away the ammo box before they can get too it, then you've saved yourself alot of trouble.