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Cridhe said:
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Cridhe said:
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Because you can turn the difficulty down.

Seriousl, what the hell is the point of this thread?
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I don't particularly care for having to turn down the difficulty knob to make the game seem fair. If at level 5 the game becomes impossibly difficult on it's default setting... Well I just don't like that.
Not if you sneak, or use block, or use illusion magic, or put "drain health 100 for 1 sec" on all your combat spells...

But Morrowind's better anyway, and it doesn't have any level scaling :) There are also mods that fix this problem.
That's good to know. I'll have to reroll my character maybe and tweak a few things.
Also, try to level up more skills before leveling. If you level up more skills, between levels the stat boosts you can pick for your stats after sleeping will be higher (up to +5 I believe)
 

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Saviordd1 said:
Its not that unbalanced at level 2 or 5, I can do it pretty damn easily. You can critique all you want but dont complain about it on a forum like that will fix it. Either adjust to the games faults or dont play.
The reason the levelling is being fixed in Skyrim is because of people complaining about it on forums.

And the OP has every right to point it out if he feels it's a bad mechanic. 90% of people who played the game felt the same way. These 'I found it easy' posts never help anything. Not everyone is you.

That's the whole point of forums, to discuss and argue our different opinions - which has clearly been a result of the OP.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Saviordd1 said:
Its not that unbalanced at level 2 or 5, I can do it pretty damn easily. You can critique all you want but dont complain about it on a forum like that will fix it. Either adjust to the games faults or dont play.
The reason the levelling is being fixed in Skyrim is because of people complaining about it on forums.

And the OP has every right to point it out if he feels it's a bad mechanic. 90% of people who played the game felt the same way. These 'I found it easy' posts never help anything. Not everyone is you.

That's the whole point of forums, to discuss and argue our different opinions - which has clearly been a result of the OP.
I understand that but complaining you "cant play" or "dont feel the drive to play" is kinda of pointless since you CAN lower the difficulty, complaining is fine, saying the game is unplayable is a little stubborn
 

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OP what's your character like? Additionally before you quit, don't level and watch as the enemies become easier. On a side note regardless of what your character is like, get some alchemy gear, even if its just a mortar and pestle. Even with basically no alchemy skill you can make basic potions to sell for more then the ingredients value, and you can make poisons that greatly increase your combat effectiveness.
 

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Saviordd1 said:
I understand that but complaining you "cant play" or "dont feel the drive to play" is kinda of pointless since you CAN lower the difficulty, complaining is fine, saying the game is unplayable is a little stubborn
I agree, of course you can lower the difficulty. But it's a valid criticism to say 'you shouldn't have to.'
 

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I picked main traits that I hardly ever use so that I could get to lvl 10 for my skeleton lock-pick and pretty much stay there. :p Though I do agree that it's a bit ridiculous that I was having some trouble with Mudcrabs at one point.
 

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I'm very confused. As I get with most Oblivion threads.
Am I one of the few that found the leveling system fine, and never had to reduce the dificulty?
Hell, if anything it was TOO easy on the medium setting, so I put it up to the maximum, and still fine.
I appear to be a God at Oblivion, then.
 

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Ah, the defining dilemma of this "RPG."

Just level naturally and don't sweat it. This game isn't hard.
 

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Cridhe said:
Kahunaburger said:
Cridhe said:
cyrogeist said:
ZeroMachine said:
Because you can turn the difficulty down.

Seriousl, what the hell is the point of this thread?
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what he said
I don't particularly care for having to turn down the difficulty knob to make the game seem fair. If at level 5 the game becomes impossibly difficult on it's default setting... Well I just don't like that.
Not if you sneak, or use block, or use illusion magic, or put "drain health 100 for 1 sec" on all your combat spells...

But Morrowind's better anyway, and it doesn't have any level scaling :) There are also mods that fix this problem.
That's good to know. I'll have to reroll my character maybe and tweak a few things.
Don't bother, just get far enough to chameoleonify all your armor. You'll have 100% and be completely invicible permenently. You're pretty much untouchable after that. Invisibility spells are also go though, but they don't last forever.
 

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Cridhe said:
I know I just started playing you recently, but is there any conceivable reason I should allow myself to go farther than level 1? You seem way too hard at level 2+.

Sincerely,
Cridhe
You can't get any daedric artifact until lvl 2. You can't finish the main quest without one.

EDIT: I use KCA, and drop the level cap to around 30 or 40. You level up slower, but you're much more powerful once you hit those levels so the game does let you feel like you're actually becoming a badass.
 

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voorhees123 said:
I never found an problem with Oblivion if you play it like an RPG and not like an FPS. Cant go running up to animals and ememies expecting to win in an rpg. Have to level up and get better weapons first.
I am assuming you have never played an RPG
 

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I've noticed with certain builds it's near impossible to play casually if you level fast, other builds tend to work better when you level fast. It is really a matter of what you are doing lol.. I have a level 45 and play on maximum difficulty, I haven't had any problems with this character when it came to leveling fast.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Saviordd1 said:
I understand that but complaining you "cant play" or "dont feel the drive to play" is kinda of pointless since you CAN lower the difficulty, complaining is fine, saying the game is unplayable is a little stubborn
I agree, of course you can lower the difficulty. But it's a valid criticism to say 'you shouldn't have to.'
You have a point.
 

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voorhees123 said:
Vibhor said:
voorhees123 said:
I never found an problem with Oblivion if you play it like an RPG and not like an FPS. Cant go running up to animals and ememies expecting to win in an rpg. Have to level up and get better weapons first.
I am assuming you have never played an RPG
Explain?
Even if you play oblivion like an RPG, you will fuck everything up due to the level scaling. You never gain better equipment than that of your enemies.
 

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Oblivion isn't hard at the beginning! Morrowind! Now that was challanging at the start. I mean those rats are really fucking dangerous in lvl 1.
 

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I've never had a problem with the leveling in Oblivion, but I'm not a huge fan of level scaling either. Honestly I've never had any difficulty with it, in fact the only thing it's good for in Oblivion is getting you better weapons and armour to equip and cooler monsters.

It would get quite boring after a while if everytime you went through an Oblivion gate all you ran into were Stunted Scamp's and Clannfear runts.

Meanmoose said:
Oblivion isn't hard at the beginning! Morrowind! Now that was challanging at the start. I mean those rats are really fucking dangerous in lvl 1.
Or Cliffracers... Fucking hated those when I first started playing.
 

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At level 2 if you leveled the right ability's and picked up half-decent weapons and with a little (OK a LOT of) microing about to dodge hits etc you can decimate an entire town on the normal difficulty....
Turn down the difficulty please and someone get this thread locked or something or whatever you guys do around here - pointless thread is kinda pointless.
 

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Oblivions leveling kinda sucks, you have to either, level efficiently by getting +4 or +5 multipliers every level, just play normally and if the game gets to hard lower the difficulty.. or 'Underlevel' your character, so you stay at level 1 and max your skills, its kinda pointless because you 1 hit everything, but its an easy way to beat the game.

Or if your on the PC, download the mod 'Oblivion XP' which uses a simpler leveling system more akin to your Bioware RPGs.
 

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Cridhe said:
I know I just started playing you recently, but is there any conceivable reason I should allow myself to go farther than level 1? You seem way too hard at level 2+.

Sincerely,
Cridhe
I won't be a mean person like most others and say "Hurr turn the difficulty down!" It is an option, it's what I did on my first character but in the end I still re-rolled.

When/If you do re-roll make a custom class (If you didn't already) and make sure you know what kind of weapon you are likely to use and see to it that it is definetely in the main seven, but don't put all of one attributes (i.e; Strength) in the main seven, keep out Hand to Hand or something and then when you are close to levelling spam a load of hand to hand kills, each point you get in it will give you a bigger boost to Stength when you level.

The main point is don't level too fast, or try not to anyway, wait until you know you'll get one of those tasty +5's or at least a +4 then level. it takes a while but it's well worth it, especially if you are doing the main story, some of the Oblivion gates are insane later on if you've levelled badly, and the last thing you want is to get toward the end after slogging through 50+ hours only to be insta-killed by a million Daedroths in the final few areas.

Hope this helps. (Also Stealth is stupidly broken, enemies are very stupid when it's a high level coupled with a good Agility stat and when you get to level 10 drop everything and do the Daedric Shrine quest that gives you the Skeleton Key; An unbreakable lock pick. So handy.)