my face hurts/I found that offensive <- people dissmiss the very idea that somone could be legitimatly offended by what they say or things in general, because we've been told that those bad people...the racists the sexists the homophbobes are other people characters with cartoonish veiw points (like the KKK or ultra conservative christians) and that nothing WE say (normal people) could in anyway cause offense[/quote]Vault101 said:The Saints row series I'm sure has plenty of "offensive" things I'm sure....other than that I nothing comes to mind
it...really isn't... you can't really tell other people if they should find something offensive or notBizzaro Stormy said:Personally I think offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder
...can I bring out my stick metaphor? cause I think its relevant
if you accidentally hit me in the face with a stick, you'd probably apologize, most people would because they understand immedetly I could be in pain,and while it was unintentional they understand it was a slight upon me... and I'd probably be like "thats cool, mabye be careful with your stick next time".again people immediately understand the pain part...its tangible
but how people react to something that isn't as "tangible" as pain:
[quote/]"Ow that hurt!"
"no it didn't"
"uhhh...yes it does"
"no it doesn't , it only hurts if I meant to hit you, I didn't mean to"
"yeah but...you can see the bruise starting to show"
"maybe it hurts because you expected it to hurt and you clealry have a problem with sticks..why do you hate sticks?"
"I don't hate sticks! its just yours hit me in the face"
"IT DIDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS UNINTENTIONAL"
"I know that!"
"then why are you are you freaking out over it?? what the fuck is your problem?"
"because my face hurts!!"
"I don't believe you! youre just overly sensitive!"
"...mabye in future carry your stick closer to your body, so you wont hit people"
"you DARE suggest I change my behaviour? I DON'T HIT PEOPLE WITH SITCKS!
"you just did"
"No I didn't! stick hitters are tattooed thugs who run around after midnight! do I look like a goddamn stick hitter?"
"no but you did hit me in the face with a stick"
"NO I DIDN'T!!!"
That's not an analogy, that's a strawman.
Physical harm doesn't equate to having your jimmies rustled.
One (the stick) results in actual harm being done to a person (sub-epidermal haemorrhaging, possible gashes, and maybe even broken bones), while the other (the offensive prat) will only ever result in someone thinking that you're an arse.
And given that we (or at least I) live in an egalitarian society, I'd be really bloody offended at the thought that we determine who can say what jokes depending on something as fucking petty as skin-colour.