Demonization of Moviebob and other Escapist Staff

[TheRightToArmBears]

I think it's all a bit stupid. These people are critics, they're here to provide their opinions on matters (outside of news pieces of course, where I'd prefer them to try and be balanced) and it only follows that they're going to hold strong opinions on things that they care about. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they should be fired.

To be frank, I just don't give a shit about anything that goes on on Twitter and I don't see any of this mess as particularly important. People, as with pretty much everything that goes wrong in the world, just need to calm the fuck down.

 

[ForumSafari]

I find it terribly ironic that moviebob is usually 100% correct on any subject yet there are people out there who still say "Well I disagree!" Well Fuck, what will it take for you to get out of your own shell for a minute and realize that maybe your own worldview is entirely fucked up and incorrect on multiple levels?

Moviebob is so god damn smart and professional its a fucking WONDER he even bothers to make videos for such an ungrateful group who don't even take in anything he says but would rather say "NUH UH, DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

Bob changes his mind frequently, hell watch some of his earlier game Overthinker videos and compare them to his current views and quite frequently they'll have almost the opposite viewpoint (NOTE: I am not saying he's hypocritical. Changing your mind is not hypocrisy. I'm saying he can and has been wrong.) Bob can't be usually 100% right if he has two different opinions, he was wrong about one of them no?

Either that or that was some incredible sarcasm, it's hard to tell.

 

[Quadocky]

If you want the cold hard truth, watch the Internet Aristocrat videos on the matter.

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

If you want the cold hard truth, watch the Internet Aristocrat videos on the matter.

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, facist apologist and not InternetAristocrat?

 

[ForumSafari]

If you want the cold hard truth, watch the Internet Aristocrat videos on the matter.

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

Riddle me this: Why should him being a /pol/ack make him wrong about this?

 

[Quadocky]

If you want the cold hard truth, watch the Internet Aristocrat videos on the matter.

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

Because unlike movie bob, he has evidence. Funny how that works when youtube has better citations than the journalists.

And better yet, why listen to someone on a side who gets his material from a PR firm that has admitted to be biased and tied to a think tank that has admitted in text that their assertions are never taken seriously in peer review and debunked immediately?

Let me guess, we should listen to mcdonalds when they say they make the best hamburgers out of the best ingredients and cooked by gourmet chefs too huh? Because lets be honest here, no one should listen to PR on anything.

Hell, Internet Aristocrat isn't the only one with evidence videos.

captcha: cordon bleu. Funny.

Evidence? That is very funny. Given his history of misrepresenting information I wouldn't even trust him to handle it.

Maybe you don't really get it but evidence means little if 1. your argument sucks. 2. You deliberately misrepresent that evidence to create a false narrative.

Someone doesn't magically become trustworthy just because they have 'evidence'.

Also, I think the fact that the man is literally a fucking racist doesn't make it clear enough...

 

[Agayek]

Point of order: yall need to calm the fuck down.

Thank you.

Now, I feel the need to respond to this:

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

IA is far from the most unbiased source, but neither is moviebob. In fact, both are rather blatant about their bias and leanings. Why not be an adult, see what both have to say, weigh the merit of their arguments and the evidence they present, and then reach your own conclusion without being told what to think?

Please?

 

[Quadocky]

If you want the cold hard truth, watch the Internet Aristocrat videos on the matter.

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

Riddle me this: Why should him being a /pol/ack make him wrong about this?

OH I'm sorry. I seem to have forgotten that some places on the internet are an entirely another dimension and racism and fascism is 'okay' and not ideas that were long since defeated in the halls of academics and history.

EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME.

 

[Quadocky]

Point of order: yall need to calm the fuck down.

Thank you.

Now, I feel the need to respond to this:

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

IA is far from the most unbiased source, but neither is moviebob. In fact, both are rather blatant about their bias and leanings. Why not be an adult, see what both have to say, weigh the merit of their arguments and the evidence they present, and then reach your own conclusion without being told what to think?

Please?

They are very different. MovieBob is a wonderfully professional dynamic individual of great esteem, someone I'd love to chat with. IA is an insufferable jerk who gets his politics from an anime themed imageboard.

People gotta have standards. I'd trust MovieBob's 'bias' over some random jagoff's.

 

[ForumSafari]

OH I'm sorry. I seem to have forgotten that some places on the internet are an entirely another dimension and racism and fascism is 'okay' and not ideas that were long since defeated in the halls of academics and history.

EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME.

And that makes him wrong about video game controversy because...?

He may be racist but realistically so are a lot of people and you agree with all of them about a lot of stuff daily, hourly even. Why would his opinions in one area affect the truth of his opinions in a completely unrelated area?

EDIT: For example: a lot of historical figures that people 'look up' to were racist, sexist and all the other nasty -ists.

 

[Agayek]

They are very different. MovieBob is a wonderfully professional dynamic individual of great esteem, someone I'd love to chat with. IA is an insufferable jerk who gets his politics from an anime themed imageboard.

People gotta have standards. I'd trust MovieBob's 'bias' over some random jagoff's.

And that makes him automatically wrong... how exactly?

He has a political opinion that is different from yours. That doesn't invalidate his argument or evidence he provides about a completely separate topic. Hell, that doesn't invalidate his argument or evidence about his political opinions, it just means he came to a different conclusion than you did.

If you can't see how intellectually lazy and regressive it is to dismiss the entirety of a separate viewpoint because you disagree with it, then I'm not sure what more can be said here. All I will say is that I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[LarsInCharge]

Point of order: yall need to calm the fuck down.

Thank you.

Now, I feel the need to respond to this:

Riddle me this: Why should I listen to a racist, fascist apologist and not moviebob?

IA is far from the most unbiased source, but neither is moviebob. In fact, both are rather blatant about their bias and leanings. Why not be an adult, see what both have to say, weigh the merit of their arguments and the evidence they present, and then reach your own conclusion without being told what to think?

Please?

They are very different. MovieBob is a wonderfully professional dynamic individual of great esteem, someone I'd love to chat with. IA is an insufferable jerk who gets his politics from an anime themed imageboard.

People gotta have standards. I'd trust MovieBob's 'bias' over some random jagoff's.

You write this... then expect people to take your opinions about Chipman's biases seriously?

You're kidding, right?

 

[SNCommand]

I think the people who claim Bob should be fired are being ridiculous, that's up to the people who run The Escapist to decide, but I think the backlash we're seeing is deserved, Movie Bob can be right about stuff, but he can also be wrong, and he's been wrong quite a lot recently, I say that when you're willing to defend widespread corruption then some backlash should be expected, we certainly wouldn't allow a real political reporter to get away with defending a politician caught in a corruption scandal

 

[firebobm173]

He will sing the praises of stuff he likes one minute. While ignoring hugely flawed and terrible things. Then attack something else for no reason, to the point he contradicts statements he made a second ago. Or makes things up that never were associated with it.

Neither of these are doing his job properly.
He won't criticise the stuff he likes. And he get's whingey over things he does'nt.
They seriously need to get a better film reviewer. He is not doing his job properly.

The films are not actually getting reviewed. The films barely figure in the videos now.

Ok you seem to be mad that he likes things that he likes and dislikes things he dislikes. As for him not admitting faults in things he likes and not seeing the good in things he doesn't, while I admit he can get angry when he hates something I have yet to see him fail to point out flaws in things he likes, even if they are minor. And as for him "ignoring hugely flawed and terrible things", media and art criticism is by definition subjective [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic]. Just because he doesn't share your opinion or the opinion of the majority of people does not automatically make him wrong.

 

[Kuzz]

Let's say you are the manager of a pizza restaurant. Customers are enjoying their pizzas, employees are doing their jobs... All of a sudden one of the employees shouts: "EVERYONE WHO LIKE PIZZA ARE SUBHUMANS!"

As the manager, what would you do? Sure as hell every sane manager in the world would fire that employee. Apparently things work differently in gaming media.

I'm not happy that i was called subhuman by an Escapist employee.

 

[GothmogII]

Let's say you are the manager of a pizza restaurant. Customers are enjoying their pizzas, employees are doing their jobs... All of a sudden one of the employees shouts: "EVERYONE WHO LIKE PIZZA ARE SUBHUMANS!"

As the manager, what would you do? Sure as hell every sane manager in the world would fire that employee. Apparently things work differently in gaming media.

I'm not happy that i was called subhuman by an Escapist employee.

Would depend on the job, I would imagine most places would give you a verbal warning first, though, the managers where I work would probably just laugh. Hell, some of them have said/done worse. x) I remember one time one took a whole prawn and tied strings to its legs just so he could film it dancing around on his phone.

 

[GeneralOC]

Perhaps none of them should be fired, but from Critical Miss to Jimquisition to the Editor Tito himself there is near agreement on the basics of their 'SJW' ideology. So how about some diversity? Bring in some fresh voices with fresh ideas that challenge these ideologues and there cosy consensus.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

I find it terribly ironic that moviebob is usually 100% correct on any subject yet there are people out there who still say "Well I disagree!"

This speaks more about you than it does about them. Considering that MovieBob strawmans people he doesn't like and immediately insults anyone who disagrees with him.

Also, you should probably cite IA being racist, cause that's the first time I've ever heard of it.

 

[Czann]

Lol, twitter wars! This entire thing is just so idiotic it is becoming unbelievable.

Meanwhile the world keeps ignoring this latest outbreak of insanity and normal people keeps playing their games normally without even knowing what a SJW is.

 

[GeneralOC]

normal people keeps playing their games normally without even knowing what a SJW is.

Ignorance truly is bliss.