Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director Explains Game's Symbolic Colors

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The color scheme doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, considering the fact that cyberpunk features mostly colors ranging across the black-blue-gray axis, I'm pleased this will feature warm colors. Very little speaks decadence as much as dark hues of gold, creating effects similar to a kind twilight, heavy and impenetrable.
 

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I rather enjoy the idea of this icarus/decay duality...it connects beautifully with the themes of the first Deus Ex.
See the mech-aug revolution could have meant tremendously powerful changes for humanity, great positive and negative changes, but instead humanity spurned its gifts and began spiraling the drain until the aesthetically pleasing nano-augmentation system was developed, long after the world had begun to burn. This necessitated severe actions (like daedelus/icarus fusing with JC, or the internet being wiped out temporarily) to save humanity as it is, rather than allow its spirit to be inevitably destroyed by the will of strong, psychopathic and deluded people.
 

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Double post, sorry about that.

On another note, monochromatic ambient colour palettes allow for much easier highlighting of individual colours, such as red operating lights on a cybernetic arm or sudden shifts in the "mood" of the ambient lighting. If done well, it can be a very strong tool.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Dr. wonderful said:
Hubilub said:
But Wall Street taught us that gold symbolizes greed!
And greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind.

Can you see now?
The fourth circle of hell might disagree with you on the "Greed is a good thing" idea
I have REALLY got to get that on my ipod, I have so little patience for the epics anymore, but I do love listening to them sometimes.
 

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Master_Spartan117666 said:
3. He IS badass. (Come on, tazing some guy's earpiece to make him bust a cap in his own head, then punching through a wall to break faceless nameless soldier #18573's neck?)
I'm pretty sure he's trying to save the guy who is shooting himself in the head.
 

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buy teh haloz said:
Good idea, but how many people do you think are going to mistake this as a brown-fest?
I did. And this reeks more of an excuse than an explanation.
 

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There's always the aspect if they just needed something to fall-back on after many people complained about the colour scheme of the game, and thus the writers came up with a new explanation.
 

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buy teh haloz said:
Good idea, but how many people do you think are going to mistake this as a brown-fest?
Only the colour-blind, since it doesn't look brown.

Yosharian said:
Still not impressed. I still think this is going to be a train wreck.
If you think it's going to be a train-wreck because it's got a cover-system and regenerative health I will shit a brick out of rage.
 
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I think, for a game series that is so story based, it is actually a pretty good idea to pull the themes out into multiple aspects of the game.

Its also nice to see symbolism beginning to take importance in the creation of games.
 

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Yosharian said:
Woodsey said:
Yosharian said:
Still not impressed. I still think this is going to be a train wreck.
If you think it's going to be a train-wreck because it's got a cover-system and regenerative health I will shit a brick out of rage.
1) It's basically a remake of an old game

2) Automatic takedowns and 3rd person views ruin immersion

3) Prequels suck

4) Key designers/directors/writers/etc from the originals have no input on this project
1) Ummm...?

2) Immersion is more than the camera-perspective

3) Your basing this off of other - unrelated - things, not the game

4) They've had the lead writer come over and look at the game, although as long as the dev. team understands what makes Deus Ex Deus Ex, it's really not necessary to have old team members.
 

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The game could be in neon pink and vomit green for all I care, I just want it to be good.

Yosharian said:
You have your faith, I have my scepticism, let's leave it at that.
What... People on the internet agreeing that they can disagree? Shouldn't we be having some sort of nerd duel with swords of ego or some such thing? o_O

Ok the real reason I quoted you is because I fear that some of your points could break this game, but I really want it to be good.
 

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Woodsey said:
4) They've had the lead writer come over and look at the game, although as long as the dev. team understands what makes Deus Ex Deus Ex, it's really not necessary to have old team members.
holy shit they got a writer to look at the game? wow. the project is so saved.

Personally, until I play it this is just gears of deus ex.
 

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Cynical skeptic said:
Woodsey said:
4) They've had the lead writer come over and look at the game, although as long as the dev. team understands what makes Deus Ex Deus Ex, it's really not necessary to have old team members.
holy shit they got a writer to look at the game? wow. the project is so saved.

Personally, until I play it this is just gears of deus ex.
The lead writer from the original game; look at what the guy I was talking to said and work out why I then pointed out about the ex-lead writer, fuck face.

Also, a monotone voice doesn't work with that brand of sarcasm.
 

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I see, it's the faux-art kind of symbolism. Like having someone die in a Jesus pose.

I'm sorry, but most people advanced beyond color symbolization in pre-school, and using it in their own work since middle school. No offense to the devs, but this strikes me as rather silly.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
matrix3509 said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
Dr. wonderful said:
Hubilub said:
But Wall Street taught us that gold symbolizes greed!
And greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind.

Can you see now?
The fourth circle of hell might disagree with you on the "Greed is a good thing" idea
And since when did a poet with a level of arrogance to rival that of Stephen King, have the final say in what constitutes a "circle of hell" (whatever that is)?
And Yes, and a circle of hell is basically like a "level" of hell, used to separate the damned based on their sin.

Side note! If you're gonna make judgement calls and say the man was too arrogant to define the circles of hell, don't make ther accusation if you didn't know what the levels were.

The circles of hell are mentioned in the bible briefly (the seven deadly sins), but there are NINE circles to hell as many catholic philosophers and poets have believed. So he's not the only one
And I'm not one to believe the bullshit religious dogma the catholic church pulled outta their ass either.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
matrix3509 said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
Dr. wonderful said:
Hubilub said:
But Wall Street taught us that gold symbolizes greed!
And greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind.

Can you see now?
The fourth circle of hell might disagree with you on the "Greed is a good thing" idea
And since when did a poet with a level of arrogance to rival that of Stephen King, have the final say in what constitutes a "circle of hell" (whatever that is)?
How was he so arrogant? I would be quite surprised if you were able to get a good feel for Dante's mind fram considering how long ago he lived. If you're gonna call him arrogant, explain it whiel you're at it
Its easy, any author with the audacity to enter themselves as the main character into their fiction (remember how The Divine Comedy is fiction? OH YEAH.) is someone I classify as arrogant. Remember how the Dark Tower turned out? Sorry to bring about bad memories of that shitty mess, but it happens in every one of his stories (almost).
 

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matrix3509 said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
matrix3509 said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
Dr. wonderful said:
Hubilub said:
But Wall Street taught us that gold symbolizes greed!
And greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind.

Can you see now?
The fourth circle of hell might disagree with you on the "Greed is a good thing" idea
And since when did a poet with a level of arrogance to rival that of Stephen King, have the final say in what constitutes a "circle of hell" (whatever that is)?
How was he so arrogant? I would be quite surprised if you were able to get a good feel for Dante's mind fram considering how long ago he lived. If you're gonna call him arrogant, explain it whiel you're at it
Its easy, any author with the audacity to enter themselves as the main character into their fiction (remember how The Divine Comedy is fiction? OH YEAH.) is someone I classify as arrogant. Remember how the Dark Tower turned out? Sorry to bring about bad memories of that shitty mess, but it happens in every one of his stories (almost).
I don't think it was a move based on arrogance. Most writers have a very strong imagination, and are able picture damned near anything in their head. When you write about it and describe this, it helps you better picture it. I've placed myself as the main character in a few works of fiction. Sometimes my character dies at the end, sometimes he dies in the middle and a new character comes into play. I think it was more to immerse himself into the hell he was kind of philosophizing about. I think if he'd siad he battled lucifer and sealed him into his dark prison, never to rise again *coughcoughvideogamecoughcough* then yes, it would totally be an asshat arrogant move, but just walking through the streets of hell and seeing the damned... Naw.

Basically: If you make an uber character that is "Untouchable" and saves the day against the most powerful evil force, saves the girk, gets rich, and defies ass odds (basically makes you look supreme), then yes, he would be arrogant had he done that.