Deus Ex: Human Revolution Preorder Packs Revealed

[GoGo_Boy]

Haha pathetic.

So either you pre-order or you only get 90% of the game. Yeah, what a nice asshole deal.

It's two weapons (and in one case a small side-mission). The developers have put the game at 30-40 hours long.

You're not missing anything.

Didn't you read the news? You miss a mission and two weapons (and something more I think). These were developed already obviously. But hey nowadays developers cut out stuff left and right, consider it extra instead of inclusive and folks like you are just fine with that.

Edit:
I'm not even saying, don't buy the game. Because that's the problem, the game may still be just fine even though they add these asshole-deals
That doesn't mean however that it's justified or nothing is wrong with that. You get less because you m.fucking didn't pre-order it.

Ingame, gameplay changing "boni" for m.fucking pre-orders.
But yeah, every pre-order is set. No more "oh it isn't what I expected, kkthxbye not gonna buy it".

 

[Andy Chalk]

I think everyone is taking this a little too seriously. Look at it this way: If there wasn't a preorder bonus, you wouldn't get this stuff. Hence the term "bonus." You're getting something for laying down your money early.

And for people who hate studios that offer preorder bonuses, I take it you're including in that number BioWare, among others? Because special preorder and Collector's Edition bonus content was offered with Baldur's Gate 2 - and in a bit of bad news for folks waiting for the preorder "fad" to die off, that was ten years ago.

Personally, I love preorder stuff. Sure, you don't always get exactly what you want, but you'll usually end up with something, and that's a whole lot better than nothing.

 

[GoGo_Boy]

Then there's something wrong with you Andy Chalk.
I guess you also love DLC that was finished far before launching.

You know, why can't we get these boni as normal ingame content? Because YOU say so? Interesting.

Edit:
Oh and I know there's a lot companies abusing this shit.
Glad Blizzard doesn't, because Starcraft 2 is the only game I got this year and take a guess, no "mimimimi pre-order boni!!!"

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Also, why would someone possibly LIKE these pre-order bonuses? Does it turn you on to have more content than those pitiful people who didn't pre-order it?
Instead of getting something special these pre-order bonuses make you feel better by taking away from the others. If you like that there's something wrong with you.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

That's actually not true. a maxed out PC can run you at least $2000 US. PC games may be cheaper but in the long run the PC will suck way more money out of you than any console will.

You don't need a top-of-the-line machine to make the game look good and have fun.

I built my PC 3 years ago for $450, and haven't had to upgrade anything. It runs most games on mid-high with 30-45 FPS(frames per second). The standard is 30 FPS and some games go up to 60 FPS. Point is, my 3 year old PC is still going strong.

This whole assumption that to be a PC gamer and/or you need to have a maxed out PC to have fun with PC games needs to die.

OT: Looks meh(the pre-order bonuses). Ah well, just as good. At least I know I'm not missing anything.

Sadly, it was still cheaper to buy a 360 three years ago to do the same thing that a PC can do slightly better...

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

I'll never understand why gameplay trailers are done using consoles.

The first 5 seconds is of Jensen hitting thin air.

Anyway, can't wait for this! I'll pre-order it on Steam as soon as I can. Or, y'know, an hour before release once I've gotten a general impression from the reviews (I love how that's still considered pre-ordering).

I always figured they did it 1) because that's where they expect to sell the most copies or 2) because optimization for the top of the line PC specs may not be completely finished yet or 3) they're cheap and don't want to put money down on a good PC...<.<

The PCs they use to build the game will be needed to run it on maxed out settings, so why not use those?

I'd have thought they'd want to use the best looking version as well.

Because not everyone has a mexed out PC, so by showing a maxed out PC trailer, the game would look sub-par to those who buy the console version, or those who didn't spend hundreds on a PC rig. Customer Appeal man.

You can get a really cheap PC that can max out most games today you know? It is not that expensive to be a PC gamer anymore, you rarely have to update you're rig and the games are generally cheaper.

That's actually not true. a maxed out PC can run you at least $2000 US. PC games may be cheaper but in the long run the PC will suck way more money out of you than any console will.

If you are gong to run Metro 2033 then yes but you can run most AAA titles with a PC rig of around $600 US (if i converted Swedish Kronor to US Dollars correctly). My friend can even run Crysis at the highest settings on his old $400 US rig. And in the long run a PC will pay for itself because of the cheap games. And don´t forget about modding.

Or I can use the console that I spent $300 on. Which is my point. Any decent rig costs more to build than just buying a console that can do the same thing just with a bit less graphical input. If your friend wants to be able to play Crysis 2 on his $400 rig, he may have to upgrade again, meanwhile console players will be content with the version they just has to pay $60 to play.

 

[Dioxide20]

What are these Preorder packages supposed to encourage? I hate it when developers decide to give this retailer this special item and this retailer this extra mission. I understand that they aren't story critical, and certainly won't change the way the game plays, but I still find it annoying that I don't get everything with my 50-60$ purchase.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

I'll never understand why gameplay trailers are done using consoles.

The first 5 seconds is of Jensen hitting thin air.

Anyway, can't wait for this! I'll pre-order it on Steam as soon as I can. Or, y'know, an hour before release once I've gotten a general impression from the reviews (I love how that's still considered pre-ordering).

I always figured they did it 1) because that's where they expect to sell the most copies or 2) because optimization for the top of the line PC specs may not be completely finished yet or 3) they're cheap and don't want to put money down on a good PC...<.<

The PCs they use to build the game will be needed to run it on maxed out settings, so why not use those?

I'd have thought they'd want to use the best looking version as well.

Because not everyone has a mexed out PC, so by showing a maxed out PC trailer, the game would look sub-par to those who buy the console version, or those who didn't spend hundreds on a PC rig. Customer Appeal man.

Still not buying it - it's the same product, you just want to show it in it's best form. Companies doctor screenshots all the time.

At least here they'd be showing what it actually looks like for quite a few people.

A game is more than graphics man. You can have the best looking and smoothest running game on your PC, but if the game itself isn't good, what's the point?

THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

If I wanted to show the best version of my game the person playing would be shown to be scoring headshots like a military sniper on crack, and the game would be made to look as shiny as possible (which they usually are).

Why? Because people are attracted to the prettier, more fluent looking product.

And showing lots of headshots makes a game look better how? I find it funny that you yekk at me for bringing up graphics not being everything, then right after that say that the game should e made to look as shiny as possible. Pick an argument and stick to it. And calm the hell down.

 

[ReaperzXIII]

Haha pathetic.

So either you pre-order or you only get 90% of the game. Yeah, what a nice asshole deal.

Yeah that would only be true if the extra mission was part of the actual story or the guns/extra augmentations made that much of a difference, don't act like Eidos are assholes because they give the people that pre-order something extra for their troubles, its like special edition packs, you can play it without it but those who do shell out the extra cash get extra stuff.

 

[Woodsey]

I'll never understand why gameplay trailers are done using consoles.

The first 5 seconds is of Jensen hitting thin air.

Anyway, can't wait for this! I'll pre-order it on Steam as soon as I can. Or, y'know, an hour before release once I've gotten a general impression from the reviews (I love how that's still considered pre-ordering).

I always figured they did it 1) because that's where they expect to sell the most copies or 2) because optimization for the top of the line PC specs may not be completely finished yet or 3) they're cheap and don't want to put money down on a good PC...<.<

The PCs they use to build the game will be needed to run it on maxed out settings, so why not use those?

I'd have thought they'd want to use the best looking version as well.

Because not everyone has a mexed out PC, so by showing a maxed out PC trailer, the game would look sub-par to those who buy the console version, or those who didn't spend hundreds on a PC rig. Customer Appeal man.

Still not buying it - it's the same product, you just want to show it in it's best form. Companies doctor screenshots all the time.

At least here they'd be showing what it actually looks like for quite a few people.

A game is more than graphics man. You can have the best looking and smoothest running game on your PC, but if the game itself isn't good, what's the point?

THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

If I wanted to show the best version of my game the person playing would be shown to be scoring headshots like a military sniper on crack, and the game would be made to look as shiny as possible (which they usually are).

Why? Because people are attracted to the prettier, more fluent looking product.

And showing lots of headshots makes a game look better how? I find it funny that you yekk at me for bringing up graphics not being everything, then right after that say that the game should e made to look as shiny as possible. Pick an argument and stick to it. And calm the hell down.

I'm talking about marketing, you're talking about gameplay over graphics.

And believe it or not it does get a tad irritating that whenever you mention graphics someone randomly joins the conversation halfway through to say just that.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

I'll never understand why gameplay trailers are done using consoles.

The first 5 seconds is of Jensen hitting thin air.

Anyway, can't wait for this! I'll pre-order it on Steam as soon as I can. Or, y'know, an hour before release once I've gotten a general impression from the reviews (I love how that's still considered pre-ordering).

I always figured they did it 1) because that's where they expect to sell the most copies or 2) because optimization for the top of the line PC specs may not be completely finished yet or 3) they're cheap and don't want to put money down on a good PC...<.<

The PCs they use to build the game will be needed to run it on maxed out settings, so why not use those?

I'd have thought they'd want to use the best looking version as well.

Because not everyone has a mexed out PC, so by showing a maxed out PC trailer, the game would look sub-par to those who buy the console version, or those who didn't spend hundreds on a PC rig. Customer Appeal man.

Still not buying it - it's the same product, you just want to show it in it's best form. Companies doctor screenshots all the time.

At least here they'd be showing what it actually looks like for quite a few people.

A game is more than graphics man. You can have the best looking and smoothest running game on your PC, but if the game itself isn't good, what's the point?

THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

If I wanted to show the best version of my game the person playing would be shown to be scoring headshots like a military sniper on crack, and the game would be made to look as shiny as possible (which they usually are).

Why? Because people are attracted to the prettier, more fluent looking product.

And showing lots of headshots makes a game look better how? I find it funny that you yekk at me for bringing up graphics not being everything, then right after that say that the game should e made to look as shiny as possible. Pick an argument and stick to it. And calm the hell down.

I'm talking about marketing, you're talking about gameplay over graphics.

And believe it or not it does get a tad irritating that whenever you mention graphics someone randomly joins the conversation halfway through to say just that.

There are tons of games that aren't graphically top notch that have sold very well. You can market gameplay much better than you can market graphics. Oblivion, Fallout, and hell, even Monster Hunter can attest to that. I;m in college for Marketing so I know what you are saying but just using the PC version to market a game solely just for looks is not a great tactic. A game is a $50-60 dollar investment, people want to know what they're playing. A lot of hardcore gamers really don't care if a game isn't the shiniest game ever.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

That's actually not true. a maxed out PC can run you at least $2000 US. PC games may be cheaper but in the long run the PC will suck way more money out of you than any console will.

You don't need a top-of-the-line machine to make the game look good and have fun.

I built my PC 3 years ago for $450, and haven't had to upgrade anything. It runs most games on mid-high with 30-45 FPS(frames per second). The standard is 30 FPS and some games go up to 60 FPS. Point is, my 3 year old PC is still going strong.

This whole assumption that to be a PC gamer and/or you need to have a maxed out PC to have fun with PC games needs to die.

OT: Looks meh(the pre-order bonuses). Ah well, just as good. At least I know I'm not missing anything.

Sadly, it was still cheaper to buy a 360 three years ago to do the same thing that a PC can do slightly better...

Missing the fact that PCs do everything, and consoles only do games and movies. So no, it's the same stuff slightly better and a whole shitton of other stuff.

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Pulling shit out of your ass. The original Crysis, contrary to popular belief, was actually playable on mid-tier PCs right when it shipped, and Crysis 2 is supposed to be even better optimised, hence it being multi-platform.

I'm obviously comparing gaming capabilities here buddy. Obviously a PC can do more than a console. But in terms of running a game, a decent PC isn't all that much better than a console. And as for Crysis being able to run on mid-tier computers on shipment, yes that is true. Does that mean it could run well on a mid tier PC? No. This game came out in 2007, it's requirements were steep for it's time. You couldn't just buy a home PC, pop the disk in and have the game run well. You would need to upgrade any computer before that game came out to run it well rather than just run it.

 

[Andy Chalk]

Also, why would someone possibly LIKE these pre-order bonuses? Does it turn you on to have more content than those pitiful people who didn't pre-order it?
Instead of getting something special these pre-order bonuses make you feel better by taking away from the others. If you like that there's something wrong with you.

Are you serious? You're turning this into some kind of zero-sum game where some people can't enjoy a little extra without somehow depriving others? We're talking about a bone that gets tossed to fans who are essentially willing to lay down their money sight-unseen. A bonus. I couldn't possibly care less about whether you or anyone else preorders it or not, and your suggestion that I somehow get off on "taking away from others" - like I'm busting into your house and stealing code off your disc or something - is pretty crazy.

And I hate to burst your Blizzard bubble, but StarCraft 2 did have a preorder offer: access to the beta.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100161-Preorder-StarCraft-II-Get-Beta-Access [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100161-Preorder-StarCraft-II-Get-Beta-Access]

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

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So because the PC cost a little more than the 360, the 360 is still better ignoring the fact that a PC has vastly more uses and would still outperform it? It's like comparing a hot plate and an oven.

Running well doesn't mean running on high graphics. Believe it or not, consoles tend to have pretty shitty graphics (mostly credited to their ridiculously low memory, which can't support much high-res textures), and the original Crysis on medium, which, as someone pointed out could be run on a budget PC, blows anything consoles ever had out of the water. In case it isn't clear, if I say run, I mean run without lag. Wouldn't be much point in playing it on 7 FPS now, would there.

Now you're just being another PC elitist that can't fathom that console have some decent looking and decent running games. If you honestly believe that there are no games on console that look almost as good, if not just as good as PC then there's no point in arguing with you. Last time I checked the original Uncharted on PS3 was actually compared to Crysis in terms of graphical power. Uncharted was the only other game that year that could be compared to Crysis and it was a console game.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I'm pretty sure they'll load it all up into some contrived GOTY edition later on down the road.
Assuming the game turns out to be more Deus Ex, and less Alone in the Dark (newer).

 

[Andy Chalk]

Which didn't influence the gameplay in any way whatsoever, hell, neither did their collector's edition bonus.

So preorder bonuses are okay as long as they fit in with your idea of what's acceptable?

I find it amusing that so many people are up in arms about ensuring that everyone has the exact same experience in a game that is ostensibly designed around choice and the ability to approach different problems with different tactics. I also can't help but notice that nobody is dumping all over BioWare for offering preorder bonuses with BG2 a decade ago. Are we avoiding that one because we don't want to say nasty things about BioWare and one of the seminal CRPG releases of the videogame era?

 

[Wandrecanada]

I only have profanity for retail exclusive content. What's wrong with universal content for everyone from any retailer you pre order from? I'm not buying two bloody copies of the game and if you choose the "wrong" content pack you just lost a sale to someone else. Why would any retailer support this idea? It's a 50/50% chance you lost a sale and you pay for the privilege...