Cats and Dogs have been a part of human life for thousands of years, Dogs have nearly always been faithful companions to men and women. Cats have been idolised since the Ancient EgyptiansRes Plus said:Oh for Goodness sakes people need to grow up. This is pathetic. There is no right not to be offended, especially by things that.... aren't ... offensive.
Incidently, since when did cats and dogs become so ridiculously feted? They are cute if you like them but that's about it.
Curses, beat me to it.bkd69 said:Younglings.
Back in my day, we KNEW how to threaten animals to raise sales.
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itsthesheppy said:I don't think you guys understand. You can't threaten cats on the internet. Period.
It's not about offense. It's not about taking a joke. It's a cardinal-fucking-sin. It's one of the most powerful thou-shalt-nots.
You DO NOT threaten CATS on the INTERNET. The internet likes cats 1,000x more than it likes people. This is rudimentary stuff.
These.lukey94 said:Threaten babies or young children all you want.
Threaten a kitten ... you are worse than Hitler!
Nope. If they threatened human children I'd react the same way. There is a difference -- Child's Play says "The more money you give us, the more we can help the children relieve their pain." If they said "If you don't help us, then children will be in pain!", then that would be bad.Somethingfake said:Nobody would care if they threatened humans. Somehow though, those horrible, ungrateful, spiteful balls of fur seem to have gained an untouchable status.
Here's the difference: threatening harm, like on that National Lampoon magazine cover, is a joke, and is designed to make you laugh. If the joke worked, it will make you want to read more of the comedy contained within the product being sold. This was a marketing stunt to tug at the heartstrings of cat lovers. There's no relationship between the pitch and the product; it's simply an attempt at emotional manipulation. There is a difference, and it didn't work.Res Plus said:It's only recently (and especially on the interwebz) these animals have been placed on a ridiculous pedestal, cue this type of knee jerk "rage" when anyone says anything negative or makes a mild joke about animals. It's only recently that large sections of society have routinely spent thousands on medicine, food and "gifts" for animals. All seems a bit out of hand.
That's exactly what the joke you're complaining about is doing. Yet for some reason you completely miss the humour and attack it as if it's serious when it's patently not. Why?UNHchabo said:Here's the difference: threatening harm, like on that National Lampoon magazine cover, is a joke, and is designed to make you laugh. If the joke worked, it will make you want to read more of the comedy contained within the product being sold
Not really, the poor developers are still getting bombarded with hate and calls for people to be fired directly in response to the joke.Xanadu84 said:you don't demand blood in retribution. The offending party apologizes like an adult, and you move on with your life. Luckily, it looks like THATS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
Read the rest of my post, especially "There's no relationship between the pitch and the product". This is not a comedy game, so this "joke" has no bearing on the content of the game.GoaThief said:That's exactly what the joke you're complaining about is doing. Yet for some reason you completely miss the humour and attack it as if it's serious when it's patently not. Why?
To put it another way: what if they said they would donate the $5000 to a charity no matter what, but if they weren't Greenlit, the money would go to the Westboro Baptist Church? Yeah, this is a more extreme example, but in both cases the publisher would be attempting to get people to Greenlight the project based on something other than the merits of the game itself. That's emotional manipulation.Res Plus said:Well, I guess that is one way of looking at it. Personally to call what happened "emotional manipulation" seems rather, well, hysterical to me, as does the response.
Read the article, I'll quote the especially relevant part for you;UNHchabo said:Read the rest of my post, especially "There's no relationship between the pitch and the product". This is not a comedy game, so this "joke" has no bearing on the content of the game.
Yes, there is black humour in the game and it's very relevant. I wonder if that issue of National Lampoon featured any more dogs?Understand that there is some dark humor in the game and they wanted to play off of that. We love cats! That's why we have them in our game to begin with!
+1.jon_sf said:"Jeez, people shouldn't be offended by stuff on the internet, and post negative comments to websites about it. I'm going to go post a negative comment on some website about how I think people are whiny."
I dont know, maybe its Valve using the community to know what games (these cheaper and more mediocre kind of games) should and shouldnt be on Steam. I dont know honestly but there isnt anything wrong with having a publisher in this situationMcoffey said:Yeah, but I thought it was in the same vein as kickstarter, in that it was for indie devs who don't have a publisher to be able to get their game out there and make some revenue. Why can't their pub submit it to steam through traditional means?josemlopes said:Being Greenlight is diferent then being Kickstarted, there is no money involved, its just a way to make your game available on Steam.Mcoffey said:Weird but I guess the steam community has different joke standards than the rest of the internet.
Side note: If this game has a publisher, why the hell is it on Green Light? That kind of undermines the point, doesn't it?
OT: I guess I now must be offended by that guy from the Serious Sam developers
Well, it's not clear from the trailer that there's any humor whatsoever in this game; I don't think a game can get away with this unless it's as blatantly comedic as Deathspank or Bulletstorm.GoaThief said:Yes, there is black humour in the game and it's very relevant. I wonder if that issue of National Lampoon featured any more dogs?Understand that there is some dark humor in the game and they wanted to play off of that. We love cats! That's why we have them in our game to begin with!
Ignoring your poor analogy, your new objection now boils down to the humour not being slapstick/too dry. You don't have to enjoy it but the "outrage" is silly.UNHchabo said:/snip
No, the problem is that the humor wasn't stated anywhere. The first time I saw any indication that the game might have any humor in it is in reaction to the backlash, with the statement "Understand that there is some dark humor in the game and they wanted to play off of that." Previous to that, there was the trailer, and the text on the Greenlight page, neither of which contain any mention of humor.GoaThief said:Ignoring your poor analogy, your new objection now boils down to the humour not being slapstick/too dry. You don't have to enjoy it but the "outrage" is silly.
I also like how you shift the focus to one solitary trailer in an attempt to justify your initial claims despite them being refuted in the article itself. Integrity, don't you just love it?