Diablo 3 Wizards Go Nuclear

[MetalMagpie]

I dont see the big deal here. Shit happens glitches get discovered and are patched fairly quickly. Those who exploit them know they are cheating and will have to deal with the consequences of that. The guy who make the video sounds like a complete fucking idiot. Bitching and moaning about how blizzard doenst give a fuck because this hasnt been patched in under three hours.

I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.

If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.

Yes, because developers shouldn't try to correct glitches before they release the game. Just ship them right off to retail warts and all: since it was never gunna be prefect anyway.

You can't fix bugs you don't know about. Complete test coverage for anything more sophisticated than a "Hello World" is a laughable idea. And for any software product that doesn't have people's lives depending on it, there's only so much bug testing that can be justified.

I work as a software developer and I'll happily admit that sometimes the code I write has bugs in. (I'm a human being, after all.) Most of these bugs are caught by testing. A small number are not. If they get discovered by a client, that's a little embarrassing. But providing we get the fix out in an appropriate time frame (a week if there's a work-around or same-day if it's an emergency), then we've done our job.

 

[Falterfire]

Just to be clear: I don't own the game. I'm waiting until it's a bit cheaper before I try it. (Although - with sales still strong - it looks like it's going to be a while before the price even dips below £30.)

Ahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Blizzard? Put a game on SALE? Have you even MET this company before? If you're waiting for a price drop, I hope you are prepared to wait a very long time. Warcraft III is still $40 for the game + expansion, and that game is a decade old. Starcraft II is $40 while on sale and it's two years old. (Compare Skyrim dropping to $30 during the Steam sale for a game less than a year old) The game servers will likely be shut down long before they put it on sale for less than $30. (Or even 30 euros)

 

[Shjade]

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I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.

Which has nothing to do with whether or not the people who discover it are exploiting it for all it's worth.

Glitches happen. Should this one have been caught in testing? Probably. It couldn't have been found in beta since the beta didn't go up far enough in level for wizards to learn archon and teleport.

 

[Falterfire]

http://www.amazon.com/Warcraft-III-Battle-Chest-Mac/dp/B00009ECGK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343062708&sr=8-1&keywords=warcraft+3

Consider yourself corrected.

That's Amazon. Blizzard themselves...
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=110000050
$40.

I will concede that if you can find a third party source you can get it cheaper.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

I am so very glad this game is a constant stream of fuck-ups and failure.

It still sold 3.5million copies in the first 24 hours (6.3million in the first week), which makes it the fastest selling PC game of all time. Despite hiccups and complaints about the DRM, I'm going to assume Blizzard will view this game as a massive success. Businesses listen to sales figures, not to forum threads.

Just to be clear: I don't own the game. I'm waiting until it's a bit cheaper before I try it. (Although - with sales still strong - it looks like it's going to be a while before the price even dips below £30.)

Lol. The number of people that were severely disappointed by the game, plus the amount of people asking for refunds, combined with everyone that detests the DRM... Yeah, game's a failure for the business. It's like selling people gold plated anthrax--it might sell well, but there won't be many return customers.

World of Warcraft bleeding subscribers... Diablo 3 being a shitfight... Good times <3

 

[Scarim Coral]

If I weren't so busy catching up with my stuff (I was away last weekend) and also to still actually care for this game than I would give this a go. However consider the fact that it's ridiculous rare to get any good rares in the game I will pass on this exploit.

 

[Wolfram23]

I didn't bother with Diablo 3. Came out while I was on holidays, and I returned to the launch shit storm and figured I was better off without it. Plus, I don't support games/devs/things I disagree with.

Anyway, I picked up Krater on the Steam Sale and man that game is fun. It's like Diablo... but more strategy like, more RPG like, and you get to control a little 3 man squad. It's actually quite fun.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.

If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.

Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.

OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!

 

[Aeshi]

(the latter two were supposed to be made impossible with server side stuff, right Blizz? lolol)

The DRM is meant to keep out Pirates, not Hackers (that's like saying a shipping container and a bag of crisps are the same thing because they both hold stuff.)

But hey, if at first you don't succeed declare it impossible because that's easier than putting in effort right?

 

[Twilight_guy]

Hum... so people are blaming Blizzard for having the bug. Obviously they have never coded. Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped? Also, why is it that it seems like Blizzards most hardcore fans, who put hundreds of hours into there games and play them all the time, also seem to spew the most bile over everything. It seems like there is nothing but a wall of hate in the Diablo 3 forums from people who admit to playing the game far then they your average Joe. I don't know what this self-loathing kind of relationship is but it is interesting to see, even if it saddens me.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

(the latter two were supposed to be made impossible with server side stuff, right Blizz? lolol)

The DRM is meant to keep out Pirates, not Hackers (that's like saying a shipping container and a bag of crisps are the same thing because they both hold stuff.)

But hey, if at first you don't succeed declare it impossible because that's easier than putting in effort right?

Lolol. Not only did they fail to prevent hacks, pirates are still playing it as we speak. I won't encourage you to Google server emulators, but... they exist.

People who pay for the game: DRM; no single player, server issues and lag, people cheating and glitching, account hacks and theft.

People who pirate the game: no DRM; single player, no server issues or lag, no cheaters or people glitching, no account hacking and no chance of having your shit stolen.

Nice work, Blizzard. You guys really did a great job on stopping those pirates. Made the game better for customers, too. Video games have to be the only class of product in the world where pirates get better products than the people legitimately buying the stuff. *rofl*

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?

> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.

Seems legit.

 

[Aeshi]

Lolol. Not only did they fail to prevent hacks, pirates are still playing it as we speak. I won't encourage you to Google server emulators, but... they exist.

People who pay for the game: DRM; no single player, server issues and lag, people cheating and glitching, account hacks and theft.

People who pirate the game: no DRM; single player, no server issues or lag, no cheaters or people glitching, no account hacking and no chance of having your shit stolen.

Nice work, Blizzard. You guys really did a great job on stopping those pirates. Made the game better for customers, too. Video games have to be the only class of product in the world where pirates get better products than the people legitimately buying the stuff. *rofl*

Yeah, what were they thinking by trying to achieve anything? Far better to just lie down and die because if the Universe doesn't hand it to you on a silver platter it clearly isn't worth anything. After all trying could lead to success and everybody knows that being (more) successful (than they are) is eeeeeeviiil.
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-customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.

Draech mentioned TF2 having an exploit that could make Medics invulnerable, didn't see an Article here or 'customers' complaining about that (assuming he wasn't lying.)

 

[Twilight_guy]

Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?

> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.

Seems legit.

"If you didn't dress like a slut, you wouldn't have been raped!"
"If you did more work to catch bugs you wouldn't have this in your code!"
Nevermind that the exploiter/rapist has to actively choose to do commit the action and take advantage.

Is that a bit clearer?

 

[fwiffo]

I see Blizzard likes to Butcher their games in more ways than one.

If this is a legitimate combination of abilities that just happens to be insanely unbalanced instead of a true glitch (The article wasn't clear) then I hope the exploiters aren't punished. Nothing turns off gamers more than knowing that they'll be punished if they are too good at the game. (Or in this case, too good at picking abilities)

It looks like if you use the two abilities in conjunction, you get "stuck" in the in-between teleport state, making you impossible to hit, which is a complete glitch.

Glitch or not, It's Blizzard's fault it's there and they shouldn't be punished for using it.

If only developers had a certain type of employee dedicated specifically to finding problems with the gameplay.

I took advantage of a glitch in wow. No 3rd party hacks or anything. Glitch caused a raid boss to keep respawning. So our guild got everything we needed, and were banned/suspended afterwards.

So yeah, they will punish the players for their bugs.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Lolol. Not only did they fail to prevent hacks, pirates are still playing it as we speak. I won't encourage you to Google server emulators, but... they exist.

People who pay for the game: DRM; no single player, server issues and lag, people cheating and glitching, account hacks and theft.

People who pirate the game: no DRM; single player, no server issues or lag, no cheaters or people glitching, no account hacking and no chance of having your shit stolen.

Nice work, Blizzard. You guys really did a great job on stopping those pirates. Made the game better for customers, too. Video games have to be the only class of product in the world where pirates get better products than the people legitimately buying the stuff. *rofl*

Yeah, what were they thinking by trying to achieve anything? Far better to just lie down and die because if the Universe doesn't hand it to you on a silver platter it clearly isn't worth anything. After all trying could lead to success and everybody knows that being (more) successful (than they are) is eeeeeeviiil.
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-customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.

Draech mentioned TF2 having an exploit that could make Medics invulnerable, didn't see an Article here or 'customers' complaining about that (assuming he wasn't lying.)

Because we all know no one has tried DRM, amirite. Maybe the notion of programming your game to fuck over the consumer will stop pirates from stealing your game! 'Cause no form of DRM has ever been hacked day one of release ;D

Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?

> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.

Seems legit.

"If you didn't dress like a slut, you wouldn't have been raped!"
"If you did more work to catch bugs you wouldn't have this in your code!"
Nevermind that the exploiter/rapist has to actively choose to do commit the action and take advantage.

Is that a bit clearer?

> Compares blaming a victim for suffering through the worst possible crime, to people wanting their products to not break.

Totally legit.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

I see Blizzard likes to Butcher their games in more ways than one.

If this is a legitimate combination of abilities that just happens to be insanely unbalanced instead of a true glitch (The article wasn't clear) then I hope the exploiters aren't punished. Nothing turns off gamers more than knowing that they'll be punished if they are too good at the game. (Or in this case, too good at picking abilities)

It looks like if you use the two abilities in conjunction, you get "stuck" in the in-between teleport state, making you impossible to hit, which is a complete glitch.

Glitch or not, It's Blizzard's fault it's there and they shouldn't be punished for using it.

If only developers had a certain type of employee dedicated specifically to finding problems with the gameplay.

I took advantage of a glitch in wow. No 3rd party hacks or anything. Glitch caused a raid boss to keep respawning. So our guild got everything we needed, and were banned/suspended afterwards.

So yeah, they will punish the players for their bugs.

"Stop using all the game's mechanics so well, guys! We will totally ban you if you use the available tools in the best way possible!"

Derp.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

What do they care, they already got your money.....

Remember kids, bugs, exploits, and even gameplay doesn't matter at all. Only the amount of sales in the first 2 weeks.

Do you think D3 was a net increase or decrease for Activision's stock price? Just think about that the next time you have $60 burning a hole in your pocket, deciding where to spend it. Do you want to spend it on someone who actually cares about producing a good product or do you want to spend it on someone who only cares about the returns for the next quarter?

 

[Aeshi]

Ill just be putting up a bit of source material to clear this.

http://tf2exploits.blogspot.dk/2007/10/medic-permanent-invulnerability-exploit.html

This isn't the bug I was referring to funnily enough since there WERE a multitude of exploits over time that resulted in permanent invulnerability.

So not only have Valve made this fuck-up, they've made it multiple times...
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Because we all know no one has tried DRM, amirite. Maybe the notion of programming your game to fuck over the consumer will stop pirates from stealing your game! 'Cause no form of DRM has ever been hacked day one of release.

Splinter Cell: Conviction and HAWX 2 say hello.

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?

> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.

Seems legit.

"If you didn't dress like a slut, you wouldn't have been raped!"
"If you did more work to catch bugs you wouldn't have this in your code!"
Nevermind that the exploiter/rapist has to actively choose to do commit the action and take advantage.

Is that a bit clearer?

> Compares blaming a victim for suffering through the worst possible crime, to people wanting their products to not break.

Totally legit.

> Ignores trying to see logic of post so he can continue to troll forum over game he has a problem with. Is a an individual who is spending his Monday afternoon trolling a forum over a video game rather then doing something useful.

See? I can do that too.

Anyways, I see a similar logic to both of them, however abstract it might be and it's clear that you don't see it. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on being a troll but you proved me wrong so I must say goodbye.

"The fireman deserved to die--he ran into a burning building."

"The axe murdering psychopath on a week long killing spree deserved to die--he ran into a burning building."

Comparing things is fun.