Diablo 3 Wizards Go Nuclear

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Canadamus Prime

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DVS BSTrD said:
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DVS BSTrD said:
I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.
If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.
Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.

OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!
That what I said. I know developers can't catch every bug, but it's still there because they overlooked an error. And it's not like the people using it against other paying customers. Hell no one would even care if Blizzard had just made this an offline single-player. But no, it's not fair for players to exploit the game, it's only fair when the game exploits the players.

*cough* Random loot drops *cough*
*cough* Real Money Auction House *cough*
That sounds kinda backwards to me. I would thought it only be fair when the player exploits the game (ie using exploites like this one against computer opponents), and only not fair when the game exploits the player or when the player exploits other players (PvP etc.).

In any case, I'm sure Blizzard with have this patched up in no time so it'll soon be a non-issue.
 

tehroc

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canadamus_prime said:
Suki_ said:
DVS BSTrD said:
I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.
If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.
Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.

OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!
Yet today's companies rely on patching the product, to be damned if its ready for release. It needs to be released now in order to appease accountants. It's pretty much a given that QA departments aren't as thorough as the were a decade ago, as you only had one shot to release.
 

Canadamus Prime

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tehroc said:
canadamus_prime said:
Suki_ said:
DVS BSTrD said:
I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.
If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.
Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.

OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!
Yet today's companies rely on patching the product, to be damned if its ready for release. It needs to be released now in order to appease accountants. It's pretty much a given that QA departments aren't as thorough as the were a decade ago, as you only had one shot to release.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't know that for certain and neither do you. I'm sure there are developers/publishers that do that, but I'd like to think that the decent developers still try to nail as many of the bugs/glitches etc. before release as they can (presumably to try to minimize the relentless onslaught of whining).
 

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Hahaha Blizzard fail so badly. This is all blowing up in their face, and I think they'll have lost a few fans since D3 was released. Every week there seems to be a new fuck up.

I wonder how long it will take to patch this, considering they take a cut of all real money auctions, they could actually make money off this exploit.
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
Aeshi said:
Splinter Cell Conviction and HAWX 2 say hello.
*Checks Pirate Bay*

*Finds pages of torrents for both*

What?
You said all DRM was cracked on day 1, I gave you two examples of games whose DRM lasted longer (pretty sure Splinter Cell's lasted for around a year)

or to put that in terms that might be more familiar to you...

> Moves goalposts when he sees something that might contradict his current argument.

SEEMS LEGIT LOL.
 

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Kross said:
Check out the date on this vid [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBB093Pkw2Y]
People really seem to have missed this gem of a link.

This exploit has been known and exploited for well over a month and perhaps more.

This tremendously undermines the point of a real-money auction house when exploits can go untouched for so long.
 

Kragg

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Li Mu said:
ummm wtf?

As far as I'm aware, this has been around for about 3 hours now and still hasn't been patched
Is this guy retarded? He really thinks that they can make and release a patch in three hours?
in a perfect world yes, cause really thanks to the real money auction house, the longer they keep that bug in the more money top level wizards and blizzard themselves can make.

if i go on a killing spree and start farming highest inferno acts on diablo now nonstop, even if i get banned tomorrow i will still have made money, real life money, selling items. and so will blizzard taking a cut.

this is not jsut a game having a bug that needs fixing this is peoples wallets we are talking about, mostly their own.

how is this even legal, is there a watchdog on this?

in the real world when coding goes wrong they probably lose money, here if frank the coder takes a 15 minute coffeebreak they prolly made 15k USD of that :p

RMAH was just the worst thing that could have happened for consumers in the long run. So yeah i do understand the guy when he says 3 hours is a long time, though realistically i see why it takes so long there SHOULD be superior quality control on this software, like actual banking software and government. But everyone keeps treating it like a normal game, it is not !
 

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Absolutionis said:
Kross said:
Check out the date on this vid [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBB093Pkw2Y]
People really seem to have missed this gem of a link.

This exploit has been known and exploited for well over a month and perhaps more.

This tremendously undermines the point of a real-money auction house when exploits can go untouched for so long.
haha wow and i was worried about the 3hour thing ... this is amazing
 

Easton Dark

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Draech said:
Why is this news again?

Can someone direct me to the article about the TF2 exploit where medics could become permanently invulnerable?

I mean this stuff is news worthy after all and not just rage bait, then we should have seen this last before.
Might not be news exactly, but I still like to hear all the bad things I can about Diablo 3.
 

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I can't even think of Diablo 3 without immediately getting fueled with hate filled anger. What else can I possibly say? Maybe that I find it funny that even the most hardcore blizzard fans are now having serious doubts?
 

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I love how people are like, "Oh Blizzard is so gonna patch this like yesterday." When my question is: "With shit loads of high level loot hitting the RMAH, Blizzard is gonna make a killing off that, why would they bother patching anything of the sort?"

Related: Hey Blizzard, you know this wouldn't have been such a big deal if you hadn't forced this DRM and RMAH down our throats right? So much for your precious fucking economy. We know where your loyalties really lie.
 

Easton Dark

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Draech said:
So you are in it is rage bait more or less...
I'm not exactly sure what qualifies for rage bait.

It makes me feel better for choosing not to buy anything else from Blizzard, if that's an answer.
 

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I remember when these were a blast to find. Though not exactly an Exploit, nobody complained about the ENIGMA runes for armor. And one has to agree that being an INVINCIBLE DEATH-RAY SPEWING MANIAC is quite fun.

Again, it all comes down to the AH. That fucking RMAH. Where's the colony drop button ?
 

DanielBrown

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Tried it with my 52 sorc until level 54. Hadn't played since two weeks after release.
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Game still sucks.
 

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WhiteTigerShiro said:
Falterfire said:
If this is a legitimate combination of abilities that just happens to be insanely unbalanced instead of a true glitch (The article wasn't clear) then I hope the exploiters aren't punished. Nothing turns off gamers more than knowing that they'll be punished if they are too good at the game. (Or in this case, too good at picking abilities)
If you watched the video, you'd know that the exploit has to do with using two abilities simultaneously that the average person would normally never use at the same time. It's likely a glitch that has to do with you activating the Archon mode while in mid-teleport. (( Edit: Ninja'd xP ))

Also, real classy of the guy to give "props" to Blizzard for "letting another exploit slip by", because I'm sure that a QA department of any size is going to catch a glitch that took millions of fans a few months to accidentally trip over. I also love how this guy, who has probably been playing Diablo 3 since it came out, makes a point to talk about how shitty Diablo is. But then, at this point, I've lost all faith in Diablo fans; which is to say nothing that being compounded on top of my faith in gamers in general already being pretty low.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Bugs are hard to find and from my own experience they can come up in development (or even after development) at the worst of times. Also, his mocking of them for not fixing it in 3 hours is a clear sign he has absolutely no experience in making a game. This is a programming issue, and programmers will know that this sort of thing has no 'drag-and-drop' involved, it's all code. If a bug is found, the code has to be searched through. This isn't a simple case of looking through reams of code and changing something, there's a few steps to fixing a bug (programming terminology incoming, some words may not make real-world sense):

1) Searching: First you have to find the bug, and this can be very difficult. Knowing where to look is pretty hard, in this case there's gonna be at least a few places. I'd guess the searching would involve the Wizard class and all its methods, the class/method for teleportation and the other ability, and then there's still code to search through.

2) Evaluating: How the buggery are you going to fix this? It can be as simple as rearranging some blocks of code, or could entail a complete re-write and/or redesign of the code. This requires cost and time evaluations as well, so even considering fixing the bug takes time.

3) Doing: Fixing the actual bug can take time and cost money depending on how serious the issue is and/or how complicated it is to fix.

...3 Hours...

Also, despite the fact that someone posted a video a month ago with the exploit, if gaming magazines are only just now reporting the issue, then when do you think that Blizzard will have noticed it? (do you really think that the guy would've reported it)
 

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So just a quick question for the people who are trashing Blizzard for releasing an update with a glitch/bug in it:

Have you all played Skyrim?
 

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Falterfire said:
MetalMagpie said:
Just to be clear: I don't own the game. I'm waiting until it's a bit cheaper before I try it. (Although - with sales still strong - it looks like it's going to be a while before the price even dips below £30.)
Ahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Blizzard? Put a game on SALE? Have you even MET this company before? If you're waiting for a price drop, I hope you are prepared to wait a very long time. Warcraft III is still $40 for the game + expansion, and that game is a decade old. Starcraft II is $40 while on sale and it's two years old. (Compare Skyrim dropping to $30 during the Steam sale for a game less than a year old) The game servers will likely be shut down long before they put it on sale for less than $30. (Or even 30 euros)
*shrug* I've always found Amazon.co.uk pretty good at hammering down prices eventually, providing it makes sense for them to. WoW is currently £15 and each of the expansions are £7.

Diablo 3 was £28 (just over $40) on pre-order from Amazon (which is why I'm kicking myself a little that I didn't buy it then). But ideally I'd like to pay a little over £25 ($38). It's currently fluctuating between £32 and £35 (depending on Amazon's magic price-calculator), so it's got a little way to go.

Dropping as low as $30 would be just £19 here, which really would be quite a dip!
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
MetalMagpie said:
Clearing the Eye said:
I am so very glad this game is a constant stream of fuck-ups and failure.
It still sold 3.5million copies in the first 24 hours (6.3million in the first week), which makes it the fastest selling PC game of all time. Despite hiccups and complaints about the DRM, I'm going to assume Blizzard will view this game as a massive success. Businesses listen to sales figures, not to forum threads.

Just to be clear: I don't own the game. I'm waiting until it's a bit cheaper before I try it. (Although - with sales still strong - it looks like it's going to be a while before the price even dips below £30.)
Lol. The number of people that were severely disappointed by the game, plus the amount of people asking for refunds, combined with everyone that detests the DRM... Yeah, game's a failure for the business. It's like selling people gold plated anthrax--it might sell well, but there won't be many return customers.

World of Warcraft bleeding subscribers... Diablo 3 being a shitfight... Good times <3
I can sense quite a lot of bitterness, so I think I'm just going to back away now. When you've cooled down a bit, maybe just remember that lots of people on this website thinking something is not the same as it being the opinion of the majority.

If it was, EA Sports games would never make a profit! ;)