> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.Twilight_guy said:Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?
Seems legit.
> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.Twilight_guy said:Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?
Yeah, what were they thinking by trying to achieve anything? Far better to just lie down and die because if the Universe doesn't hand it to you on a silver platter it clearly isn't worth anything. After all trying could lead to success and everybody knows that being (more) successful (than they are) is eeeeeeviiil.Clearing the Eye said:Lolol. Not only did they fail to prevent hacks, pirates are still playing it as we speak. I won't encourage you to Google server emulators, but... they exist.
People who pay for the game: DRM; no single player, server issues and lag, people cheating and glitching, account hacks and theft.
People who pirate the game: no DRM; single player, no server issues or lag, no cheaters or people glitching, no account hacking and no chance of having your shit stolen.
Nice work, Blizzard. You guys really did a great job on stopping those pirates. Made the game better for customers, too. Video games have to be the only class of product in the world where pirates get better products than the people legitimately buying the stuff. *rofl*
Draech mentioned TF2 having an exploit that could make Medics invulnerable, didn't see an Article here or 'customers' complaining about that (assuming he wasn't lying.)Clearing the Eye said:-customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.
"If you didn't dress like a slut, you wouldn't have been raped!"Clearing the Eye said:> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.Twilight_guy said:Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?
Seems legit.
I took advantage of a glitch in wow. No 3rd party hacks or anything. Glitch caused a raid boss to keep respawning. So our guild got everything we needed, and were banned/suspended afterwards.DVS BSTrD said:I see Blizzard likes to Butcher their games in more ways than one.
Glitch or not, It's Blizzard's fault it's there and they shouldn't be punished for using it.Azuaron said:It looks like if you use the two abilities in conjunction, you get "stuck" in the in-between teleport state, making you impossible to hit, which is a complete glitch.Falterfire said:If this is a legitimate combination of abilities that just happens to be insanely unbalanced instead of a true glitch (The article wasn't clear) then I hope the exploiters aren't punished. Nothing turns off gamers more than knowing that they'll be punished if they are too good at the game. (Or in this case, too good at picking abilities)
If only developers had a certain type of employee dedicated specifically to finding problems with the gameplay.
Because we all know no one has tried DRM, amirite. Maybe the notion of programming your game to fuck over the consumer will stop pirates from stealing your game! 'Cause no form of DRM has ever been hacked day one of release ;DAeshi said:Yeah, what were they thinking by trying to achieve anything? Far better to just lie down and die because if the Universe doesn't hand it to you on a silver platter it clearly isn't worth anything. After all trying could lead to success and everybody knows that being (more) successful (than they are) is eeeeeeviiil.Clearing the Eye said:Lolol. Not only did they fail to prevent hacks, pirates are still playing it as we speak. I won't encourage you to Google server emulators, but... they exist.
People who pay for the game: DRM; no single player, server issues and lag, people cheating and glitching, account hacks and theft.
People who pirate the game: no DRM; single player, no server issues or lag, no cheaters or people glitching, no account hacking and no chance of having your shit stolen.
Nice work, Blizzard. You guys really did a great job on stopping those pirates. Made the game better for customers, too. Video games have to be the only class of product in the world where pirates get better products than the people legitimately buying the stuff. *rofl*
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Draech mentioned TF2 having an exploit that could make Medics invulnerable, didn't see an Article here or 'customers' complaining about that (assuming he wasn't lying.)Clearing the Eye said:-customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.
> Compares blaming a victim for suffering through the worst possible crime, to people wanting their products to not break.Twilight_guy said:"If you didn't dress like a slut, you wouldn't have been raped!"Clearing the Eye said:> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.Twilight_guy said:Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?
Seems legit.
"If you did more work to catch bugs you wouldn't have this in your code!"
Nevermind that the exploiter/rapist has to actively choose to do commit the action and take advantage.
Is that a bit clearer?
"Stop using all the game's mechanics so well, guys! We will totally ban you if you use the available tools in the best way possible!"fwiffo said:I took advantage of a glitch in wow. No 3rd party hacks or anything. Glitch caused a raid boss to keep respawning. So our guild got everything we needed, and were banned/suspended afterwards.DVS BSTrD said:I see Blizzard likes to Butcher their games in more ways than one.
Glitch or not, It's Blizzard's fault it's there and they shouldn't be punished for using it.Azuaron said:It looks like if you use the two abilities in conjunction, you get "stuck" in the in-between teleport state, making you impossible to hit, which is a complete glitch.Falterfire said:If this is a legitimate combination of abilities that just happens to be insanely unbalanced instead of a true glitch (The article wasn't clear) then I hope the exploiters aren't punished. Nothing turns off gamers more than knowing that they'll be punished if they are too good at the game. (Or in this case, too good at picking abilities)
If only developers had a certain type of employee dedicated specifically to finding problems with the gameplay.
So yeah, they will punish the players for their bugs.
So not only have Valve made this fuck-up, they've made it multiple times...Draech said:Ill just be putting up a bit of source material to clear this.
http://tf2exploits.blogspot.dk/2007/10/medic-permanent-invulnerability-exploit.html
This isn't the bug I was referring to funnily enough since there WERE a multitude of exploits over time that resulted in permanent invulnerability.
Splinter Cell: Conviction and HAWX 2 say hello.Clearing the Eye said:Because we all know no one has tried DRM, amirite. Maybe the notion of programming your game to fuck over the consumer will stop pirates from stealing your game! 'Cause no form of DRM has ever been hacked day one of release.
"The fireman deserved to die--he ran into a burning building."Twilight_guy said:> Ignores trying to see logic of post so he can continue to troll forum over game he has a problem with. Is a an individual who is spending his Monday afternoon trolling a forum over a video game rather then doing something useful.Clearing the Eye said:> Compares blaming a victim for suffering through the worst possible crime, to people wanting their products to not break.Twilight_guy said:"If you didn't dress like a slut, you wouldn't have been raped!"Clearing the Eye said:> Compares being raped to customers being upset their game was coded with an unintentional exploit that could break the game.Twilight_guy said:Not to mention isn't that blaming a rape victim for being raped?
Seems legit.
"If you did more work to catch bugs you wouldn't have this in your code!"
Nevermind that the exploiter/rapist has to actively choose to do commit the action and take advantage.
Is that a bit clearer?
Totally legit.
See? I can do that too.
Anyways, I see a similar logic to both of them, however abstract it might be and it's clear that you don't see it. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on being a troll but you proved me wrong so I must say goodbye.
That sounds kinda backwards to me. I would thought it only be fair when the player exploits the game (ie using exploites like this one against computer opponents), and only not fair when the game exploits the player or when the player exploits other players (PvP etc.).DVS BSTrD said:That what I said. I know developers can't catch every bug, but it's still there because they overlooked an error. And it's not like the people using it against other paying customers. Hell no one would even care if Blizzard had just made this an offline single-player. But no, it's not fair for players to exploit the game, it's only fair when the game exploits the players.canadamus_prime said:Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.Suki_ said:If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.DVS BSTrD said:I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.
OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!
*cough* Random loot drops *cough*
*cough* Real Money Auction House *cough*
*Checks Pirate Bay*Aeshi said:Splinter Cell Conviction and HAWX 2 say hello.
Yet today's companies rely on patching the product, to be damned if its ready for release. It needs to be released now in order to appease accountants. It's pretty much a given that QA departments aren't as thorough as the were a decade ago, as you only had one shot to release.canadamus_prime said:Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.Suki_ said:If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.DVS BSTrD said:I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.
OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!
Maybe, maybe not. I don't know that for certain and neither do you. I'm sure there are developers/publishers that do that, but I'd like to think that the decent developers still try to nail as many of the bugs/glitches etc. before release as they can (presumably to try to minimize the relentless onslaught of whining).tehroc said:Yet today's companies rely on patching the product, to be damned if its ready for release. It needs to be released now in order to appease accountants. It's pretty much a given that QA departments aren't as thorough as the were a decade ago, as you only had one shot to release.canadamus_prime said:Precisely. There has never EVER been a time that games have been released 100% bug/glitch/exploit free. The only difference is that now developers are able to patch many of these bugs/exploits/glitches after the fact.Suki_ said:If you think its possible to release a bug/glitch free game you are delusional.DVS BSTrD said:I suppose, but that glitch wouldn't be there TO exploit if Blizzard had done it's job properly.
OT: I can see how this would suck for PvP, but for single player that be awesome!!
You said all DRM was cracked on day 1, I gave you two examples of games whose DRM lasted longer (pretty sure Splinter Cell's lasted for around a year)Clearing the Eye said:*Checks Pirate Bay*Aeshi said:Splinter Cell Conviction and HAWX 2 say hello.
*Finds pages of torrents for both*
What?
> Moves goalposts when he sees something that might contradict his current argument.
SEEMS LEGIT LOL.
People really seem to have missed this gem of a link.Kross said:Check out the date on this vid [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBB093Pkw2Y]
in a perfect world yes, cause really thanks to the real money auction house, the longer they keep that bug in the more money top level wizards and blizzard themselves can make.Li Mu said:ummm wtf?
Is this guy retarded? He really thinks that they can make and release a patch in three hours?As far as I'm aware, this has been around for about 3 hours now and still hasn't been patched