Diablo III's Auction House

fundayz

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Azure Sky said:
He is probably in the same boat I am.
The 'it could work, lets wait and see' one.
Even if gold/item farmers suddenly disappeared you would still have players buying in-game power using out of game resources from other players.

So I guess I'll ask you too: Are okay with Blizzard legitimizing the sale of in-game power for out-of-game resources?
 

DarkTenka

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fundayz said:
DarkTenka said:
fundayz said:
And I'm guessing you are okay with Blizzard legitimizing the sale of in-game power for out-of-game resources?
Sure
Then there's nothing left to say.
Because there is no possible reason that this is ok?

You remind me of the Australian Christian Lobby .. "I am right, and despite all logic and reason everyone else is wrong" .. lol

Don't take the fun out of a reasonable debate .. its really childish.
 

Azure Sky

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fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
He is probably in the same boat I am.
The 'it could work, lets wait and see' one.
Even if gold/item farmers suddenly disappeared you would still have players buying in-game power using out of game resources from other players.

So I guess I'll ask you too: Are okay with Blizzard legitimizing the sale of in-game power for out-of-game resources?
Here's an idea, and no I'm not being nice either.

Pick up your bat and ball, open another thread about boycotting the game, have a little tea party and moan to other like-minded people.

Those of us that have a higher moral standard than "Omg how can we let them do that to us" don't care. We will make a logical decision weather we are buying the game based on information that arises between now and release, not the rantings of a butt-hurt White-Knight.
 

fundayz

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Azure Sky said:
So you do think it's okay to sell in-game power for out-of-game resources? You didn't answer the question...

DarkTenka said:
fundayz said:
DarkTenka said:
fundayz said:
And I'm guessing you are okay with Blizzard legitimizing the sale of in-game power for out-of-game resources?
Sure
Then there's nothing left to say.
Because there is no possible reason that this is ok?

You remind me of the Australian Christian Lobby .. "I am right, and despite all logic and reason everyone else is wrong" .. lol

Don't take the fun out of a reasonable debate .. its really childish.
Now you are just trolling. I never said that it wasn't okay. There is nothing left to say because we have fundamentally different beliefs and neither is going to change their mind.
 

DarkTenka

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fundayz said:
Now you are just trolling. I never said that it wasn't okay. There is nothing left to say because we have fundamentally different beliefs and neither is going to change their mind.
You trolled me when you implied that there was no reason to continue talking based on ONE word from my post where I actually went at length to explain my reasoning.

..

Care to explain YOUR beliefs then?
 

fundayz

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Azure Sky said:
fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
So you do think it's okay to sell in-game power for out-of-game resources? You didn't answer the question...
And you expect me to waste my time with a long detailed answer for you?
I forgot that yes or no questions require such long detailed answers...

It sounds a lot like you don't want to answer the question.
 

Azure Sky

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fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
So you do think it's okay to sell in-game power for out-of-game resources? You didn't answer the question...
And you expect me to waste my time with a long detailed answer for you?
I forgot that yes or no questions require such long detailed answers...

It sounds a lot like you don't want to answer the question.
Validate my reasoning more, go on.
 

DarkTenka

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fundayz said:
That's your own assumption, and I have made my beliefs clear enough.
Then why are you here? .. to spread your belief? or have a discussion?

Because I garantee .. no one here is interested in your "beliefs" .. we are however ready for a discussion.
 

Azure Sky

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fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
Validate my reasoning more, go on.
I'll just mark that down as "Yes, I believe it is okay to sell in-game power for out-of-game resources".
I think we are done here.
DarkTenka said:
fundayz said:
That's your own assumption, and I have made my beliefs clear enough.
Then why are you here? .. to spread your belief? or have a discussion?

Because I garantee .. no one here is interested in your "beliefs" .. we are however ready for a discussion.
He Doesn't have one unfortunately.
 

bakan

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Azure Sky said:
fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
He is probably in the same boat I am.
The 'it could work, lets wait and see' one.
Even if gold/item farmers suddenly disappeared you would still have players buying in-game power using out of game resources from other players.

So I guess I'll ask you too: Are okay with Blizzard legitimizing the sale of in-game power for out-of-game resources?
Here's an idea, and no I'm not being nice either.

Pick up your bat and ball, open another thread about boycotting the game, have a little tea party and moan to other like-minded people.

Those of us that have a higher moral standard than "Omg how can we let them do that to us" don't care. We will make a logical decision weather we are buying the game based on information that arises between now and release, not the rantings of a butt-hurt White-Knight.
Hmm...you actually have lower standards as you let corporations do as they wish...
 

Azure Sky

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bakan said:
Azure Sky said:
fundayz said:
Azure Sky said:
He is probably in the same boat I am.
The 'it could work, lets wait and see' one.
Even if gold/item farmers suddenly disappeared you would still have players buying in-game power using out of game resources from other players.

So I guess I'll ask you too: Are okay with Blizzard legitimizing the sale of in-game power for out-of-game resources?
Here's an idea, and no I'm not being nice either.

Pick up your bat and ball, open another thread about boycotting the game, have a little tea party and moan to other like-minded people.

Those of us that have a higher moral standard than "Omg how can we let them do that to us" don't care. We will make a logical decision weather we are buying the game based on information that arises between now and release, not the rantings of a butt-hurt White-Knight.
Hmm...you actually have lower standards as you let corporations do as they wish...
I 'let' them?
Corps can what they want with their games, I will decide my wallet when it comes out if I think it is right.
If people want to whine and whine to try and influence others in what to believe then they are even worse then the corps.
 

bakan

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Azure Sky said:
bakan said:
I 'let' them?
Corps can what they want with their games, I will decide my wallet when it comes out if I think it is right.
If people want to whine and whine to try and influence others in what to believe then they are even worse then the corps.
Well, if you don't criticise bad systems and dumped down versions of previous games you obviously don't care which games are getting produced and criticising these faults isn't like playing the 'white knight'
 

Azure Sky

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bakan said:
Azure Sky said:
bakan said:
I 'let' them?
Corps can what they want with their games, I will decide my wallet when it comes out if I think it is right.
If people want to whine and whine to try and influence others in what to believe then they are even worse then the corps.
Well, if you don't criticise bad systems and dumped down versions of previous games you obviously don't care which games are getting produced and criticising these faults isn't like playing the 'white knight'
There is not enough evidence to to go either way, as we are unable to make a non-hearsay argument without seeing the system in active use.

I personally see the benefits in the system, not just the bad.

It may sound like I am arguing in Blizzards favor, but it is more like playing the devils advocate.
 

DarkTenka

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bakan said:
Well, if you don't criticise bad systems and dumped down versions of previous games you obviously don't care which games are getting produced and criticising these faults isn't like playing the 'white knight'
If you criticise them based on some kind of logical reasoning .. then that is true.

However to criticise them based on some kind of "belief" .. that is as white as knights come.

The only thing I have heard against this system is spoutings of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt .. with no logical reasoning behind them. Also to condemn a system "simply because it causes profit to the party in question" is the same thing. Blizzard profitting from Chinese Gold Farmers is not a reason why it will be bad for us .. if anything it just makes sense. In a way Chinese Gold farmers are engaging in "Virtual piracy" .. since they are making money from digital media created by blizzard, in which blizzard receives none of the profits.

This way Blizzard recieves money that they are DUE.

All of the crap about how it will effect the econemy is just speculation ..

Since A: Its not out yet .. we have no REAL idea on how it will work.

And B: Gold farming already exists in every MMO out there .. are you going to tell me that ALL of their Econemies are broken because of it? In WoW .. Gold still works as a currency .. in Eve ISK is STILL currency ..

It seems to me that people want to think of their progression in these MMO's as if someone else having more money than them means they are somehow losing.. which is rediculous.