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Furioso

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Shoqiyqa said:
Furioso said:
Every time a grenade causes some massive explosion, that's not how they work! Also, I think this clip from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia applies


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7-second fuses now?
Well my point was about the fiery explosions, not the fuse length
 

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One slightly glaring problem with Mass Effect is Liara. She is a Xeno-archeologist (someone who digs up and categorises the remains of unknown civilisations) and yet is listed as an 'Asari Scientist'. Archeologists do know a smattering of science (it does help with digs) but they are firmly in the HUMANITIES camp and are not SCIENTISTS, as they study the works of humans. I think the confusion probably set in as it is possible to gain a doctorate in both history and archeology which does give them the right to stick 'Dr.' in front of their names.

This may sound pedantic, but as a humanities student, this is such a collosal error I'm amazed that none of the writers pointed it out!
 

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superstringz said:
Every thread on evolution ever. No exceptions.
Do you mean the "ZOMG Evolution has stopped, Idiocracy is soooo true" crowd? Or maybe Lamarckians?

Anyway, I saw some show that tried disproving maternity with blood typing, but they got it wrong. They tried to claim that a woman whose blood type was A couldn't give birth to a child whose blood type was B. Or something like that, it was a really amateur mistake any sort of science consultant should've pointed out.

Also always worth a chuckle is the "hacking" scene from Jurassic Park.
 

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The Final Destination movies. Someone must have failed physics (among other subjects) back in high school.

My personal favorite? The bridge collapse from 5 when the bus falls windshield-first into the water and the bus driver rolls onto the windshield. If I may use the same analogy from what I said on YouTube (if wordier), imagine you're wakeboarding. Now, imagine you being in front of the boat, WHILE THE BOAT IS STILL PULLING YOU. That's how that part of the scene looked, those of you that haven't seen it (pun not intended).
 

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Swords, Swords and swords. Nobody seems to understand how longswords work; even though they clearly have two sharp edges and a pointy end, most people think their heavy club-like metal sticks. Seriously? Also, katanas are seriously overrated. They're no better than any other sword

Also armor. Why does armor seem to be made of paper and heavy as a steel beam in movies and videogames? A guy in a full plate harness is not going to go down easily at all, and yet most depictions of it have blades going straight through it. Even stabbing through plate was difficult. and there are other armors too that are given the shaft. I don't mind it in games so much (unless it's a goddamn cutscene), as it's mostly just visual aesthetic, but movies have no excuse. Also, their maille must be really bad quality, because apparently swords can cut through those as well (they can't) maybe a hard stab, but not a cut.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArmorIsUseless
 

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Mr.Tea said:
Murderiser said:
One slightly glaring problem with Mass Effect is Liara. She is a Xeno-archeologist (someone who digs up and categorises the remains of unknown civilisations) and yet is listed as an 'Asari Scientist'. Archeologists do know a smattering of science (it does help with digs) but they are firmly in the HUMANITIES camp and are not SCIENTISTS, as they study the works of humans. I think the confusion probably set in as it is possible to gain a doctorate in both history and archeology which does give them the right to stick 'Dr.' in front of their names.

This may sound pedantic, but as a humanities student, this is such a collosal error I'm amazed that none of the writers pointed it out!
She's over a hundred years old and is considered young for her species. Think about it... our lifespan is about 80 years, but she's probably spent close to 80 years in school! I think she's had time to extensively study both archaeology and xeno-biology (and probably even a few more things).

There are certainly some people right now who would get several doctorates if they had the chance. And given how Liara's character is established, she's definitely the type.
Except that, when you enter her apartment in the Shadow Broker, she clearly only has the one doctorate. Plus, I'm going to assume that because Asari live longer, their educational courses would be longer too.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Fringe, mediocre acting and bland characters.

GTFO!

Watch a show before going for it's jugular ay.
I watch Fringe regularly, and I have to say that Anna Torv is consistently wooden. She's gotten better, but she's not great. I don't think it's a coincidence that she's connected/related to Rupert Murdoch. Thankfully the writers seem aware of her limited range and have written it in.

Anyway, you reminded me about the shapeshifters. The mercury that helps them keep shape is so obviously not mercury it drops my suspension of disbelief.


Mercury doesn't work that way!
 

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One that has always bothered me is the portrayal of close quarters combat. In pretty much any film, game or visual media, if you have two armies squaring off, the will line up, then run screaming towards each other in an incoherent mass.

You can get away with this if it is a bunch of Berserks, but if you are trying to tell me that that was how experienced soldiers or professional armies would have fought, then you should have done some research.
 

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Everyone talking about hunting monkeys in a game called APE Escape. There is a difference. Monkeys typically have tails, apes do not.

I'm an animal-nerd so things like this actually really bothers me. I don't care if the word monkey is funnier than the word ape. Chimpanzee can be a funny word, why not use that? It certainly looks far more accurate.
 

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Spectral Dragon said:
Glass. As usual. The whole "glass is a liquid!" thing.
The one argument: There are a few windows from like 200 years ago that look like that!
Well, considering we have glasses from even further back that look like they did then...
"But it's a VERY slow process."

Just... Bothers me. EVERY time. Expecially since few accept counter arguments.
It's both.
When frozen, it's crystalline and solid, but it gradually become softer and less viscous when heated, eventually becoming liquid.
It's very hard, if not impossible, to tell exactly when it can be considered liquid and vice versa.
 

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Murderiser said:
One slightly glaring problem with Mass Effect is Liara. She is a Xeno-archeologist (someone who digs up and categorises the remains of unknown civilisations) and yet is listed as an 'Asari Scientist'. Archeologists do know a smattering of science (it does help with digs) but they are firmly in the HUMANITIES camp and are not SCIENTISTS, as they study the works of humans. I think the confusion probably set in as it is possible to gain a doctorate in both history and archeology which does give them the right to stick 'Dr.' in front of their names.

This may sound pedantic, but as a humanities student, this is such a collosal error I'm amazed that none of the writers pointed it out!

Others have mentioned Liara's likely science acumen, but you also have to take into account that the archaeology in ME is focussed around the Protheans, meaning that you're not discovering pots and decayed walls, but massive, highly advanced buildings and tools. Science!
 

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This little gem from one of my favorite shows:


I was struck stupid and it irritates me every time I see that episode.
 

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Mr Jack said:
One that has always bothered me is the portrayal of close quarters combat. In pretty much any film, game or visual media, if you have two armies squaring off, the will line up, then run screaming towards each other in an incoherent mass.

You can get away with this if it is a bunch of Berserks, but if you are trying to tell me that that was how experienced soldiers or professional armies would have fought, then you should have done some research.
Some did. One of the reasons Rome did so well was because they fought in rigid, disciplined battle lines, whilst the other side was a mob.

In mob vs mob combat, you will eventually devolve into one on one combat. After all, you're not TRYING to maintain coherency.

Compare that to, say, a viking shieldwall. You fight in that formation with shields locked together, overlapping the shields next to you. You will rarely fight one on one, and if you do you die fast - being "solo" in that fight means that A) the guy to your left AND right are dead, and B) there's nobody else to fill in their positions.

So yes, you WILL see the kind of fighting Hollywood always portrays... but it's usually an endgame that kicks in once one side has been so utterly hammered any semblance of order has been crushed.
 

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Spectral Dragon said:
Glass. As usual. The whole "glass is a liquid!" thing.
The one argument: There are a few windows from like 200 years ago that look like that!
Well, considering we have glasses from even further back that look like they did then...
"But it's a VERY slow process."

Just... Bothers me. EVERY time. Expecially since few accept counter arguments.
I'm not sure if I get your post there. Please confirm if I am right when I interpret it to this:

Glass, the things our windows, lenses, drinking glasses and anything else you can think of is liquid at STP? Glass the thing made of various compositions of silicates (which are defined by very high melting points) is a liquid? Does anyone really believe that? Please tell me I misunderstood this post or I will get saddened by the stupidity of those who think so.

The worst thing I know is people abusing the bible. I am an atheist and I believe I know more about those parts of the bible that some Christians seem to written proof of what's a sin and what's not.

mrblakemiller said:
-A lot of people think there's a line in the Bible that goes something like "better to spill your seed in the belly of a whore than on the ground to be trampled by men." It seems to say that having extramarital sex is still better than masturbation. There is no such verse in the Bible.
It's been a while since I did any studies, but the part to which you are referring is in fact in the bible. I wont say how the actual quote goes since I have never read the English version so the words are very different. However this quote, or misinterpretation is from a story the story of Onan. Because of some social rules he had to marry the widow of his brother Er, but he did not want his brother's wife to have children because they would for some reason be his kids (strange logics in the bible stories). So he let his seed spill to the ground rather than having his wife bear children. In short he pulled out. You're right this has nothing to do with masturbation, it doesn't even mention sex outside of marriage since they were in fact married. In the story he was killed by god directly for doing this several times, indicating that this was a very bad sin.
 

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superstringz said:
Every thread on evolution ever. No exceptions.
This one. On every thread there can be found someone who presents evolution in the wrong way, in my experience there seems to be a large amount of people beliving that evolution is some form of metamorpheism. (Is that how you write it in english?)
 

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Murderiser said:
One slightly glaring problem with Mass Effect is Liara. She is a Xeno-archeologist (someone who digs up and categorises the remains of unknown civilisations) and yet is listed as an 'Asari Scientist'. Archeologists do know a smattering of science (it does help with digs) but they are firmly in the HUMANITIES camp and are not SCIENTISTS, as they study the works of humans. I think the confusion probably set in as it is possible to gain a doctorate in both history and archeology which does give them the right to stick 'Dr.' in front of their names.

This may sound pedantic, but as a humanities student, this is such a collosal error I'm amazed that none of the writers pointed it out!
Question: Wouldn't it be Asarities?
 

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Well, I do remember a certain parody of horrible research:


Playing it a little straighter, I get very annoyed with Hollywood's portrayal of religions very quickly, with two of the more recent offenders being the Clash of the Titans revamp and Percy Jackson and the Olympians...both of which made the same "Hades = Satan" faux pas.

Similarly, the little bit about how mankind "only uses 10% of their brain" tends to aggravate me to no end. (Details why here).
 

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I don't know, I enjoy how Cowboy Bebop sits in front of his computer. (I know its a trope namer on the subject.)
 

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Furioso said:
Well my point was about the fiery explosions, not the fuse length
I thought the "odd one out" thing made it obvious I got that, but ... yeah, I got that.

Oh, speaking of grenades, one from Half-Life and Enemy Territory, I think:

Game grenade:
Press button to pull pin. Timer starts.
Release button to throw grenade.
Once at least 5 seconds have passed and the grenade has left your hand, the grenade explodes.
If you click and release, the grenade will be thrown and, five seconds later, explode.
If you click and hold for one second then release, the grenade will be thrown and, four seconds later, explode.
If you click and hold for two seconds then release, the grenade will be thrown and, three seconds later, explode.
If you click and hold for ten seconds then release, the grenade will be thrown and immediately explode.

Real grenade:
The grenade has a sprung fly-off lever on the side, held down by a pin. You hold the grenade in your right hand with the fly-off lever pressed against the palm of your hand. You take a firm grip on it. You pull out the pin. You check your target and throw the grenade. The lever, no longer held down by the pin or your hand, flies off. The same spring action lights the delay pellets in the fuse. 3 to 5 seconds later (blessed are cheaply mass-produced weapons) the grenade explodes.

If you held the grenade left-handed with the lever free and pulled the pin, the lever would ping off straight away and you'd want to get rid of the thing fast. If you held onto it, it'd blow up right there in your hand.

It also kind of bugs me when someone throws one at me and it lands with the lever visibly still on the side. Good throw. Duff grenade. Still goes bang, somehow.

Henrik Stavenes said:
On every thread there can be found someone who presents evolution in the wrong way, in my experience there seems to be a large amount of people beliving that evolution is some form of metamorpheism. (Is that how you write it in english?)
Metamorphosis, the process that turns caterpillars into butterflies.