I hate it because of what "Twilight" did to vampires, they were cool once. Now they glow in the son, dont drink human blood and fly...
They're not Vampires, they're fairies
They're not Vampires, they're fairies
Did Twilight really suck that much?
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Like you said, it's very average. So imagine how some people feel seeing it become almost a phenomenon when there are so many much better series in the world. So it's not the series itself that bothered people but the fan base that claimed it was the best thing ever.
Ah, has Twilight reached the point were there is now going to be a three way war between Twilight fans, Twilight haters and Twilight hater hater's?
O.T: To me, Though I'll admit I only read the first chapter, it is very boring. Not offensively bad, just plain old boring.
O.T: To me, Though I'll admit I only read the first chapter, it is very boring. Not offensively bad, just plain old boring.
That's actually not far from the reason why I hate Twilight. If it was just this unknown thing that passed the world by, I would look at it, go "that was weird", and go about my business. It's the fact it's become as big as it has, and I have to keep seeing it over and over again, that annoys me.retyopy said:
My biggest problem with the series is the fact that Bella's actions, by both the books and most of the fans, are seen as perfectly justified. The girl basically strings Jacob along for most of the series, and everyone seems to be okay with that. Hell, I've heard Twilight fans comment that it is all Jacob's fault since he is too stupid to get that Bella just isn't interested.
The series tries to set up this whole "who will Bella choose?" question throughout the series, but the thing is the answer never changes from Edward. There is never any question of who Bella will end up with despite what the series tries to say.
So can we all just agree that Bella is not a good role model... and while we're at it neither was Debra Barone (sorry, been watching a lot of Everybody Loves Raymond lately, and that character always pissed me off...)
I read the first book because my mother got it for me one Thanksgiving. Honestly, I felt it was a good story, but could have been a novel series on the level of Temeraire or Jack Reacher if Stephanie Myers' writing had been about 1200% better. Girl winds up in new town, meets vampire boy, falls in love, needs to be saved from Oogly-Boogley Horror Bits. There's no reason why this couldn't have worked and made a really good novel, like when Christopher Moore took up vampires and did Bloodsucking Fiends. But Myers cannot write anything other than angsty teenage romance with so much angsty romance it puts most yaoi fanfiction to shame. That's just my take,though.
If it were just a cheesy, poorly written romance, I would just ignore like I do other such books. But it's the fact that people think it's SO GOOD, that irritates me. Also, the message it gives a generation of young girls:
1) Stalking equals love.
2) Being a strong, independent woman can only lead to sadness and misery.
3) The only way to be happy is by submitting yourself to a dominant, controlling man through the context of traditional christian marriage.
And when you realize that Stefanie Meyer is Mormon, and that she says "My religion greatly influenced my books", she's being serious.
To sum up, poorly written, terrible messages to give impressionable girls.
1) Stalking equals love.
2) Being a strong, independent woman can only lead to sadness and misery.
3) The only way to be happy is by submitting yourself to a dominant, controlling man through the context of traditional christian marriage.
And when you realize that Stefanie Meyer is Mormon, and that she says "My religion greatly influenced my books", she's being serious.
To sum up, poorly written, terrible messages to give impressionable girls.
I recommend Mark Reads Twilight, a page-by-page blog analysis of why it's so awful. Also hilarious. Granted, it's aimed at young girls not guys, but having read a number of books derogatively titled 'chick lit' I can say with confidence they are all superior to Twilight. Just because your audience is female and young doesn't mean you have to dumb your book down or make them about nothing but sex and relationships.
Which leads into the point several other have already brought up- it is the author's innermost sexual fantasies in written format, an erotic romance marketed to teen girls to promote the author's religion and enforce stereotypes about young women that many people have fought for decades to throw off. If I ever had the gall to do that I'm sure it would sell horribly, but I promise it would at least be better written than Twilight.
Which leads into the point several other have already brought up- it is the author's innermost sexual fantasies in written format, an erotic romance marketed to teen girls to promote the author's religion and enforce stereotypes about young women that many people have fought for decades to throw off. If I ever had the gall to do that I'm sure it would sell horribly, but I promise it would at least be better written than Twilight.
Okay this is a bit off topic but people saying Vampires do not sparkle is a stupid argument. Vampires do not exist, someone made it up to begin with and made up all there rules and what not. So what's wrong with Meyer making up her own rules and applying them in her story, If anything its original. Granted the execution was poor but at least it shows a bit of originality on her part.
OT- Im not a fan of the Twilight series but i can see that objectively its not terrible. Its like Justin Bieber it appeals to its target audience and if you don't like it just don't watch it. Ive never understood peoples hatred for it. If it doesn't appeal to you just steer clear of it.
OT- Im not a fan of the Twilight series but i can see that objectively its not terrible. Its like Justin Bieber it appeals to its target audience and if you don't like it just don't watch it. Ive never understood peoples hatred for it. If it doesn't appeal to you just steer clear of it.
Actually, one of my favorite things in the first movie is the first time you see Edward sparkle. Bella is like "You're so hot!", Edward is like "THIS IS THE LOOK OF A KILLER!" and I'm just like "Aww... you're pretty..."Wait...What said:
I've seen all the movies released to date. It's bad, but I find it thoroughly entertaining. But, really, I'd still say it's better than the majority of movies out there. I'll take a goofy vampire love story over most of the ever-expanding catalogue of bro/stoner comedies, or another goddamn poorly executed super hero movie any day.
its just bad, its fans are the most violent people in the world, it throws out everything about vampires we all knew(it reminds me of that simpsons episode "that 90's show"). its ruined modern media to the point where if it dosent include vampires in love, its automatically bad. yeah someone can come up with the most original idea ever and itll be shot down because it dosent have vampires in love. hell even magic is getting affected, every set since the twilight craze includes vampires in it, and before that there was only like 10 vampires, i know the bloodsuckers needed love, but enough is enough guys
It's the hideously written piece of tosh I've ever laid eyes on. I've read better fan fiction.retyopy said:
Before Twilight, I'd never NOT finished a book, no matter how dull. I made it through Wuthering Heights, goddamn it!
Twilight though? It killed my curiosity. I put it down and have never had any desire to pick it back up. It is a terrible, terrible book.
It has terrible characters (clumsiness doesn't make a character you god damned Mary Sue!)
No character development
Real people view the characters as role models even though they're horrible, nihilistic, weak individuals who for some reason find a life of perpetual High School NOT to be a living hell
The plot is idiotic
The most relatable character in the book (Jacob) gets a character assassination when he author realises he's more interesting and more like real person than the vampire
I could go on but I think you get the picture.
No character development
Real people view the characters as role models even though they're horrible, nihilistic, weak individuals who for some reason find a life of perpetual High School NOT to be a living hell
The plot is idiotic
The most relatable character in the book (Jacob) gets a character assassination when he author realises he's more interesting and more like real person than the vampire
I could go on but I think you get the picture.
I dislike anything that is mediocre and gets famous. I'm a metal head, its a pre-requisite to hate all things popular and in fashion. Now I'm off to read J.R. TOLKIEN... a REAL writer... oh hey I have not read Dracula or the Howling in a while... REAL monster books.
