Did Twilight really suck that much?
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As far as the book is concerned, I put it on the same level as fanfiction. Fun to read, fun to write but in the end let's not take it serious, alright? Seriously though, that's what I think of Twilight. Fanfiction. Plotless, mary and gary sue, happily ever after with unicorns farting rainbows and sunshine. I may not like it, but someone does. Who am I to judge?
Should it have gotten the praise and glory? Personally, I think no but it's too late now.
Should it have gotten turned into a movie? Again no, but every generation has it's fads. They'll get over it.
Are people taking this waaay to seriously? Yes. Not just the antis, but the fans. If they Twihard attack reports are true, then some people need to seek medical attention. At the end of the day it's a book, nothing more.
Honestly, this book/movie came out at the perfect time. Harry Potter was coming to an end, so Hollywood or whatever industry that controls what's popular needed something new. Something to catch the attention of this generation. And who are the easiest targets? 10-16 yr.old girls.
Young girls + Hot guys + Dangerous under tones = $$$
I for one will give high fives to the person who decided to make this popular. Genius really.
Should it have gotten the praise and glory? Personally, I think no but it's too late now.
Should it have gotten turned into a movie? Again no, but every generation has it's fads. They'll get over it.
Are people taking this waaay to seriously? Yes. Not just the antis, but the fans. If they Twihard attack reports are true, then some people need to seek medical attention. At the end of the day it's a book, nothing more.
Honestly, this book/movie came out at the perfect time. Harry Potter was coming to an end, so Hollywood or whatever industry that controls what's popular needed something new. Something to catch the attention of this generation. And who are the easiest targets? 10-16 yr.old girls.
Young girls + Hot guys + Dangerous under tones = $$$
I for one will give high fives to the person who decided to make this popular. Genius really.
You know what? Our romance book industry needs to cool off from the vampires.Laggyteabag said:
And start writing some stories about some sexy fairyboys. Oh yes.
in a sense, yes.retyopy said:
it did something to people. suddenly even the most sensible person you knew became fucking obsessed with it, freaking out at people who would even simply say they didn't like it.
I've heard stories, man... also, Twilight Moms. google it.
She can make up her own rules when she creates her own monsters. Vampires have had the same traits ever since Stoker first made people all over Europe shit their pants in terror. Those traits have stuck for so long, because those traits work.Wait...What said:
Suddenly some Mormon housewife rocks up and says "oh by the way vampire fans, sunlight doesn't kill them any more, it just makes them sparkle like glitter." sorry, but no. I don't buy that and nobody else should either. The fact that the sinister and kinda terrifying figure of Count Dracula has been reduced to sparkling in sunlight and angsting over a totally unremarkable teenage attention whore just pisses me off.
I'd be able to tolerate it if the story was at least good, but it's just horrible, boring, bland and badly-written. It's like Meyer just thought to herself "I need to write this bland story, but nobody will buy it. I know, I'll add vampires and werewolves to it! And make the vampires have no weaknesses! Brilliant! Pass the cocaine please!"
I'm insulted that you assume people only hate both those things because they're popular; I hate Twilight because it's sh*t, and I hate MW2 because it copies COD4 and yet how some how makes itself terribly dismal and repetitive.retyopy said:
Hmmm, Twilight.
I don't know if I am really qualified to criticize Stephanie Myers fiction or the movies for that matter since I haven't read any of the books or watched a solid 30 seconds of the movies above the advertisements.
But I am an older guy who grew up on the classics: Bram Stoker, Nosferatu, Bela Lugosi's Dracula, Peter Cushing as Dracula in the Hammer film classics of the 60's and 70's and even Stephen Kings classic Salem's 'Lot.
I think the problem that people who have with the Stephanie Myer's version is that they are too romanticized. Which is sad, because the original Dracula is partly a romance novel. But we, speaking from the old school vampire camp, liked my vampires a touch more on the evil side. To a vampire, you were food, its that simple. If you happened to run into a vampire at night, he/she/it sucked your blood and depending on what fictional standpoint you stood from, you either caught the virus and became a vampire or died from all your blood leaving your body.
Women found it dark, sexy and romantic to be taken against their will by a dark stranger in the night, on the other hand Men find it downright terrifying.
To me its just a matter of choice, instead of reading tweeny romance novels about vampires, I gave Salem's Lot another readthrough. I would also suggest Justin Cronins' The Passage for the post-apocalyptic approach to vampires, its a trilogy that has already sold its movie rights and is a very good read.
As far as movies are concerned, there are too many to choose from if you are looking for demonic, serial-killer style vampirism. But if you like your vampires more human than monster, overly protective and sporting a bad hairdo, then Twilight is for you.
Thanks for reading.
I don't know if I am really qualified to criticize Stephanie Myers fiction or the movies for that matter since I haven't read any of the books or watched a solid 30 seconds of the movies above the advertisements.
But I am an older guy who grew up on the classics: Bram Stoker, Nosferatu, Bela Lugosi's Dracula, Peter Cushing as Dracula in the Hammer film classics of the 60's and 70's and even Stephen Kings classic Salem's 'Lot.
I think the problem that people who have with the Stephanie Myer's version is that they are too romanticized. Which is sad, because the original Dracula is partly a romance novel. But we, speaking from the old school vampire camp, liked my vampires a touch more on the evil side. To a vampire, you were food, its that simple. If you happened to run into a vampire at night, he/she/it sucked your blood and depending on what fictional standpoint you stood from, you either caught the virus and became a vampire or died from all your blood leaving your body.
Women found it dark, sexy and romantic to be taken against their will by a dark stranger in the night, on the other hand Men find it downright terrifying.
To me its just a matter of choice, instead of reading tweeny romance novels about vampires, I gave Salem's Lot another readthrough. I would also suggest Justin Cronins' The Passage for the post-apocalyptic approach to vampires, its a trilogy that has already sold its movie rights and is a very good read.
As far as movies are concerned, there are too many to choose from if you are looking for demonic, serial-killer style vampirism. But if you like your vampires more human than monster, overly protective and sporting a bad hairdo, then Twilight is for you.
Thanks for reading.
Hi! I just popped in to say people don't hate Twilight because it's popular. They hate it because it's awful.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySueShiny Koi said:
There is a TV Tropes page for every situation, my friend.
Twilight exists within its own universe. If you don't want to accept those rules, then don't. Just stay away from the book and films and stick to the classic vampire stuff as obviously that suits you. There no need to put it down (as aggressively as you did) as some people obviously like it. My main point was that if you don't like it, just ignore it. Some people do like it....so let themReservoirAngel said:
I hate it because its single players has become worse and worse and its multiplayer hasn't done anything new since Call of Duty 4. I hate it because the community is horrible. I hate it because the writing and story line is simple to predict and its story is awful. No one hates anything just because its popular, that came from the people who like the movie, game, book, etc and want to feel like the hate is unjustified.retyopy said:
To answer your questions though, people hate the twilight books not because its popluar, but because its badly written and because its characters are about as fleshed out as a cardboard box. It isn't an interesting read and the only reason it became popular was because with the end of the Harry Potter books, people reached out for a new series (Enter Twilight, Hunger Games, Percy Jackson and the Olympions.) , series that would try to capitilize on the now rising Teenage fiction. The big difference is that while the others are at least interesting, Twilight is just a wet-dream for woman. You can ask any female who saw the twilight movies, they didn't watch it for the plot or the story, they watched it to see Taylor and Robert take their shirt off.
Some people liked "Who Let The Dogs Out" too, and look what happened there. I think the real lesson here is "some people" need to be protected from their own terrible tastes.Wait...What said:
There's a difference between dislike, and hate. And there's a difference between hating something, and going around bashing it at every single opportunity. Tell me: think of someone you hate. Do you go up to them and insult them repeatedly every single time you see them, or do you avoid them because you can't stand them?Frostbite3789 said:
Also, I never said their lives were pathetic because of how they acted. In fact, I pretty much said exactly the opposite, that they acted the way they did because of how much their lives suck. I think everyone's life sucks 90% of the time.
I stand by my statement.
No, it's not. It's not well written, but it's not poorly written either, it's pretty average. Especially as it is a young adult book. It's well above average for a young adult book.Captain Placeholder said:
This makes me automatically think of you as a twat.retyopy said:
You see, some people follow the herd and hate something that's popular; howeevr, most people don't. The same goes for Call of Duty: some people simply don't like the fucking thing.
Moving on: People hate it because it's terribly written, cliché in every thinkable way and its plot is insanely generic and filled with plotholes. This goes for the movie and the book.