Did Twilight really suck that much?

[MartialArc]

I suppose people hate it for the same reason people hate Call of Duty. Because it's popular. Or something.

No, it's genuinely just a bad movie. Although I can only speak for the first, thankfully haven't had to sit through the rest as of yet.

Its kind of a tween drama, one of those movies marketed towards a very specific and angst filled demographic. If you're not part of said demographic it probably won't do much for you. All the hate is because its popular, if said angsty tweens just saw the movie and then shut their mouths about it the series would kind've just quietly faded into obscurity and nobody would've really cared.

Honestly I think its fading into obscurity pretty quickly anyway, probably as a result of the 15-17 year old girls it was marketed to getting older and less angsty. So brace yourself for the next phenomenon.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

TEEN WOLF!

Teen Wolf was a film made in 1985.... :/

As a lot of people have said Twilight is just porn. It's a female fantasy.

Although definately not my fantasy...

Edward: 'I like to watch you sleep I find it fascinating'

Spoiler: What did you just say?!?!

 

[Death God]

I don't hate the book. I appreciate (as a fellow author) its ability to rise to fame as quick as it did. What I don't like is the movie, or the plot (love struck teen choosing between necrophilia and bestiality), or the way its target audience acts. But, as a book, in and of its self, I don't hate it.

 

[William Dickbringer]

-SNIP-

hate it because of the fans nothing like getting a death threat for not liking it (this was in school not over the internet) plus they even made me read "the most exciting part of the book" and it was bland really now I just dislike it and avoided it like the plague (although I did hear it reinforces 50's stereo-types which gives even more reason to avoid and it's all one big metaphor for abstinence so yet even more reason for me to avoid)

 

[AngloDoom]

make me want to punch a kitten/puppy/pony/fluttershy.

DON'T YOU DARE.

OT: I actually read all of the books. I read the first out of curiosity, since all my friends were at the time. I found it not too bad, actually. It was a wank-off about vampires, sure, but it had some new ideas about vampires and found an audience in young girls very well.

That said, it wasn't well written by any means. It was horrific pacing that only gets worse as the books progress. The protagonist was a Mary Sue to such an extreme it made me ache in embarrassment, which made the ridiculously controlling and unstable relationship between herself and the two main 'hotties' of the book actually rather worrying.

Overall, I wouldn't hate Twilight based on that. No, I hate it because women I know will seriously say they find Bella's actions in the books the actions of a strong woman and can see no fault in them. Despite, y'know, trying to kill herself when her boyfriend left her.

 

[estoria-etnia]

It's a novel full of fail, that's what it is. Meyer did absolutely no research and brags about this, not caring about the fact that she pulls shit out of her ass and then goes: YEP THAT IS FACT. It also probably doesn't help that the books are very offensive and they promote abusive relationships and very anti-feminist. They're poorly written and the characters are basically cardboard cut-outs of various high school archetypes or even just plain cardboard cut-outs. No one has any personality, no one undergoes any character development, and there is no plot. Whatever little plot there is is buried under pages upon pages of ultraviolet prose of ZOMG EDWARD IS SO LURVELY. There's how Meyer pulls shit out of her ass to explain her vampires ? and she tries to do so scientifically using actual biological FACT, making it so fun and easy to tear apart ? and her logic makes about as much since as trying to eat an ice cream sandwich while in the middle of a volcanic eruption. Seriously, this is a bad series and it's full of unnecessary padding, bad logic, good idea, bad execution, poor characters, failure to research ANYTHING, and just overall terrible, terrible writing.

I could go on. But then this block of text would be even larger.

 

[The_Echo]

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I had a bunch of text written, but I figured, instead of spilling my second-hand knowledge of the book, I'd direct you to this series. He sums it up pretty nicely, I think.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

The badge on my profile isn't enough to understand my opinion of it?


I read through the books out of the library and only got through book 2 before stopping. I gave it its chance to impress me and it failed miserably. I haven't looked back since and I certainly have never watched one of the movies.

 

[Hexenwolf]

I suppose people hate it for the same reason people hate Call of Duty. Because it's popular. Or something.

I think it's because it's poorly written. The story is predictable, the main character is as personable as cardboard, and the descriptions (mostly of edward) are annoyingly repetitive.

Or rather, a combination of it being poorly written and popular. If it was just bad, barely everyone would care. But it being low quality and popular inspires a certain rage in people, ie: "how can something this shoddy have this large a following when there are much better stories out there going unrecognized (comparatively)."

 

[Tselis]

I have read all 4 books (yes, not only are there 4, but I actually read them all), so I think I can comment on this. People hate the Twilight series for many reasons, but I think these are some of the main ones.

1) It's the mental equivilant of a White Castle hamburger. Now don't get me wrong. Not everything needs to be fillet mignon, but this is something you eat even knowing it's bad for you, and will probably give you the runs.

2) It sends horrible messages to teenagers (both male and female) about self esteem and inter-gender politics. It's encouraging an entire generation to become abused/abusers.

3) The main characters have about as much chemistry as two chairs stacked on top of one another.

and finally, the worst offense any book can commit,

4) It's just badly written. Some would say that it's written for teens and so it doesn't need to be as deep and compelling as a book written for an adult would be. Some would say that you need a good scaling from baby books to adult books. Those are the people who don't discipline their kids, or challenge them at all, or try to push them to think critically about the world around them.

So there you go, hope it helps.

 

[Jimmy Sylvers]

Really Twilight wasn't the worst film I've seen. But there was very few good things to say about it. So I suppose most people hated it because it didn't live up to the hype.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

The first book was very mediocre. Did not inspire me to read more.
About two chapters were interesting.
Then all action was resolved somewhere else while you were reading about some injured **** who nobody can honestly claim to care about as a character.

Oh, and the main vampire was the least likable of the whole damn coven.

I don't make fun of it unless someone wants to bring it up as a good thing. Then I'll just say "it's shit". If they keep pressing the point, then I'll really tear into it. They usually don't. I don't know and have never known anybody who was truly fanatic over the book. I'm beginning to suspect the existence of such people is a myth put forth by the Mossad.

 

[triggrhappy94]

Hold on a second, I found a review of the book a guy did a while ago. It should help you. I just need to find it...

Found it!
This should enlighten you

 

[The_Evermind]

Yes they actually do suck that much, let's look at why.
1. They are genuinelly badly written, at the end of the day Meyer is simply not a good writer, and it shows. Just as an example, look at the "exciting" conclusion to the final book, good vampire army vs "evil" vampire leaders trying to stop bloody wars; end result, some talking lack of a real conclusion.
2. Promoting relationships that are co-dependent and unhealthy, along with seeming to say "Stalking? Well, as long as you really really like them." Also the age difference not just between Edward and Bella but Jacob and the baby.
3. Bella is crazy enough during the second book that she meets the definition of a schizophrenic, seeing things, flat affect, etc. over an extended period of time.
4. Generally trampling over vampire myth.
5. How does Bella solve her problems in the first book? Running away and fainting. In the second book? Attempting suicide. In the third book? Now it has been a while but doesn't she cut herself?
6. I am not sure I would even call it good teen girl porn when you consider that her sentient daughter eats her way out of her, killing her in the process.
7. Worst of all, it makes me pity the millions of people who view this series as the greatest thing ever written, how can you not feel sorry for all of the poor poor people who believe this to be the epitome of written word.

So yes I believe it deserves all of the hate it gets, I mean hey, if it can have a disproportionately large fanbase for its quality, why not a disproportionately large hatred for the same reason?

 

[kikon9]

People hate the book because it reminds them of the movies, people hate the movies because they have this guy in them: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQdBU0AeYNkTblWhmG3zxwaK_hGJ8B-tWdwEayCr4Jlv3h51DV9

 

[Composer]

the characters are shallow

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

If its anything like Midnight Sun (which is pretty much exactly the same) then you'd fucking bet that it does. Can be found here [http://www.youtube.com/user/manwithoutabody#p/c/D365E05652AE8526/1/WZqpLIrFjyo].

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

But all it was was average.

The plotting is average. The characters are average. The setting is average. The films are, for the most part, pretty average too.

When I read part of it (I admit that I did not read the entire thing), it was the writing that struck me as particularly abysmal. It was grueling. It wasn't that the plot read like a 6th grader wrote it (though it certainly wasn't particularly sophisticated), it was that the prose itself read like a 6th grader wrote it. And I don't mean that as hyperbole - I mean that I got a nearly identical sensation from reading it as I do going back and reading things I wrote in school. It's that same sort of dread and empathic pain. I don't just feel awkward reading it, I feel awkward for the author. It sounds mean, but it's what made me uncomfortable enough about reading the books to stop even trying.

Like I said, I think the plotting and characters are pretty average, which makes the films relatively more bearable to me (they're certainly not good, but they're not really any worse than any other film of average badness).

 

[Charli]

I found it insulting to female intelligence, nothing more harmful than that.

 

[DementedSheep]

I have read some of the first book and seen the first movie. One of my friends loves it and won?t shut up about and yeah I think it?s awful and don?t understand its popularity. Part of the reason it get more flack than other books which just as terrible is because it?s popular and because of that you see it all the time and people are obsessing over it.
That said I don?t get the extreme haters either. If you hate it why continue to watch the movies and read the books? I didn?t like it so I stopped reading it. Unless you?re just reading cause its unintentionally funny but allot of the haters seem to take it far too seriously for that and go on about it and seem to know as much as the fans do.