It did suck. The writing was more than just sub par; it was incompetent. On top of that, the ethics and beliefs behind the story were warped.
Did Twilight really suck that much?
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I read the first one, I didn't think it was that bad. I guess that's just me, I thought it was a fun cheesy romance. I would say "It's just a kid's book", but so is Harry Potter, and well, that's actually good.
Movies are really bad except for sparkly abs and decent music.
Movies are really bad except for sparkly abs and decent music.
I grew up reading Heinlein and Asimov, not to mention Eddings and Simon Green. So in my experience, it's a bit skewed.
But Twilight was just so...ugh.
The characters are flat, the story plods along at a horrible pace, things happen in one scene then get completely forgotten less than a chapter later, the 'plot twists' aren't really twists, she rips the mythos it's built behind into shreds (Reading through the First book, I was waiting for a Van Hellsing descendent to just stake the pretty boy), and the overarching message is less 'Love conquers all' than 'Don't worry about the horrible things that happen to you, because he's hot!', especially in the last two books.
Sorry, but I was used to characters growing through the story. I was used to dilemma and conflict, to people that you wanted to aspire to be. I was used to something that engaged me.
Twilight didn't have that.
But Twilight was just so...ugh.
The characters are flat, the story plods along at a horrible pace, things happen in one scene then get completely forgotten less than a chapter later, the 'plot twists' aren't really twists, she rips the mythos it's built behind into shreds (Reading through the First book, I was waiting for a Van Hellsing descendent to just stake the pretty boy), and the overarching message is less 'Love conquers all' than 'Don't worry about the horrible things that happen to you, because he's hot!', especially in the last two books.
Sorry, but I was used to characters growing through the story. I was used to dilemma and conflict, to people that you wanted to aspire to be. I was used to something that engaged me.
Twilight didn't have that.
Really? "people only hate on things because they're stupid or something." This is what you got out of my post? I was saying that hating something is cathartic, and boosts self-image.Father Time said:
The short answer to the OP is Yes. Yes it did.
The long answers is YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...
I kid.
Actually, the long answer has to do with terrible narrative, butchering of the laws of grammar and syntax, a protagonist who was too stupid to live and her insane infatuation with a misogynistic asshat.
Proof of how awful the writing is, PURELY from a technical standpoint, can be found here. http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
Took me FOREVER to remember the link, but totally worth it once I did.
The long answers is YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...
I kid.
Actually, the long answer has to do with terrible narrative, butchering of the laws of grammar and syntax, a protagonist who was too stupid to live and her insane infatuation with a misogynistic asshat.
Proof of how awful the writing is, PURELY from a technical standpoint, can be found here. http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
Took me FOREVER to remember the link, but totally worth it once I did.
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No, she may not be my favorite pony but she's still a very well developed charac- oh, my bad. Wrong twilight.
I watched the movie, and value my sanity enough to not waste any more time on that franchise. If you like it, so be it, but I'm not going to put any more time into a franchise that I just don't like.
But I do think it recieves too much hate. If you like twilight, then you have a right to that opinion, and violating that right would be a misdeed on my part. I expect people to respect what I like, what gives me the right to act any different?
I watched the movie, and value my sanity enough to not waste any more time on that franchise. If you like it, so be it, but I'm not going to put any more time into a franchise that I just don't like.
But I do think it recieves too much hate. If you like twilight, then you have a right to that opinion, and violating that right would be a misdeed on my part. I expect people to respect what I like, what gives me the right to act any different?
and that's the only reason someone could hate Twilight. It's not the boring, one-dimensional characters, the creepy stalker boyfriend, the unlikable female protagonist who spends the entire series of books toying with the emotions of two weak-minded men who are inexplicably obsessed with her, the plotholes, the self-righteous abstinence message, the creepy pedophilic undertones, Bella's "I need my man in order to validate my existence and be happy" attitude, or the blatant author insertion.spartan231490 said:
No. People hate it because they want to hate things.
Sparkling vampires in the sun........ no vampires fucking explode into flame when the suns on them.
This alone was enough to steer me away from it. Not to mention it was a chick service film.
Shoot me in the foot and call it a day. 29 Minutes in and I now want nothing to do with this day.
This alone was enough to steer me away from it. Not to mention it was a chick service film.
Shoot me in the foot and call it a day. 29 Minutes in and I now want nothing to do with this day.
I'm not going to lie. I am by no means a massive fan of the franchise, but I don't necessarily hate it by any means. Twilight is a pop book series which disregards the main mythology associated with vampires and werewolves...but it isn't aimed at anyone who seriously desires anything from such historial lineage. It's made specifically for teenage girls (some boys even, who am I to judge?) and nothing besides that.
It's hard to dislike something for being popular and making money when that's the sole intention of its existence in the first place. Those who do are just fighting a loosing battle with no point. For what it's worth I'm glad some Native Americans of North Western heritage received some exposure. Lautner's of the ancestry as well. Not to mention we get some beautiful shots of the Washington area.
In the end, I hate to give one of those "it is what it is" answers, but overall...pop culture is just that: Appeal for the masses. Those who went to the movies, read the books, etc. would have by no means gone to an actual horror/fantasy tale involving the two seperate species of characters.
It's hard to dislike something for being popular and making money when that's the sole intention of its existence in the first place. Those who do are just fighting a loosing battle with no point. For what it's worth I'm glad some Native Americans of North Western heritage received some exposure. Lautner's of the ancestry as well. Not to mention we get some beautiful shots of the Washington area.
In the end, I hate to give one of those "it is what it is" answers, but overall...pop culture is just that: Appeal for the masses. Those who went to the movies, read the books, etc. would have by no means gone to an actual horror/fantasy tale involving the two seperate species of characters.
well, it was really shitty, but I don't hate it, I just avoid it
it's the twitards that I hate
you know, the Twilight equivalent of the Xbots and CoD-fucks
in other words, the shit-tier fans it has
it's the twitards that I hate
you know, the Twilight equivalent of the Xbots and CoD-fucks
in other words, the shit-tier fans it has
I have never watched or read Twilight, and most of the reasons I dislike it are things I've heard in passing and checked with TVtropes. Link: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Twilight
Also Jacksfilms's twilight mockup series. Several videos, which is why there's no link, and easily found on youtube by searching jacksfilms twilight.
Bella is the author's depiction of herself as a Mary Sue. The "stalking and cheating are okay" approach to love. Edward the 100 year old abusive teenager who is somehow the perfect man. The fact that it's considered romantic when it's more tragic, abusive or asinine.
I'm probably very uninformed, but I think I might wish to stay that way.
Also Jacksfilms's twilight mockup series. Several videos, which is why there's no link, and easily found on youtube by searching jacksfilms twilight.
Bella is the author's depiction of herself as a Mary Sue. The "stalking and cheating are okay" approach to love. Edward the 100 year old abusive teenager who is somehow the perfect man. The fact that it's considered romantic when it's more tragic, abusive or asinine.
I'm probably very uninformed, but I think I might wish to stay that way.
Read an Ann Rice novel, then filter that through the characters of American Dad. That is what Twilight is.