I honestly enjoyed the first movie with the cast commentary (not the movie itself, but with the cast commentating over it). They were very human sounding.
It was strange and unsettling.
It was strange and unsettling.
Did Twilight really suck that much?
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Well, I read the entire series when recuperating from a major operation, and I'd have to say that they're average. It doesn't deserve the amount of hate it goes through, but it doesn't deserve the amount of attention it gets either. The characters are bland, the setting is ridiculous, and feels more like a teenage girls dream than an actual plot. But hey, it was good enough to soak up a good portion of time.
I didn't care for the first two movies. I didn't want to watch them but I let friends rope me into viewing them and my opinion didn't change. I really didn't like the second movie. Once you boil it down, the movie was about
After viewing the second movie I had a very humorous thought. That movie was based on content written by a self-proclaimed born again Christian. Very funny. As funny as a Scottish Korean (no offense to any actual persons of that ethnicity, just playing off of an old Starburst ad)
two people who attempted self mutilation and suicide because one missed the other and one thought the other was dead.
After viewing the second movie I had a very humorous thought. That movie was based on content written by a self-proclaimed born again Christian. Very funny. As funny as a Scottish Korean (no offense to any actual persons of that ethnicity, just playing off of an old Starburst ad)
You know me to well...NameIsRobertPaulson said:
I have actually listened to a movie commentary while I was stoned (admittedly stoned out of my mind), and it was pretty crazy.
I have an issue with any book that I sit down and read for an hour and suddenly realize I have no idea what this ***** looks like. She went on for chapters about frekin Edward and I knew how he looked to head to toe with some poorly designed images of his genital area. Everyone else in the book was a stick figure. It's poorly written in my opinion and as a huge fan of vampires that raped, murdered, and destroyed the living this was not my kind of book/vampire. Also the whole sparkling thing like a lot of people pissed me off. Finally, Belle was the most useless heroine I've ever had the misfortune of reading about. You know those escort missions where you have to protect an AI to a certain place. You also know about the stupid AI's who seem to run into a horde of the enemy and they're just corn holed before you can do anything. That's the basic plot of the story. Belle does something stupid and Edward has to drop everything to come drag her ass out of Browser's castle.
It disturbs me if that makes sense. It's about a girl that falls in love with a vampire that stalks her. He dismantles her cars so she can't see her best friend who later "marks" her newborn daughter. (Meaning that the baby is his soulmate.) I just can't get behind it but then again I don't go around bashing it.
I think all people have pathetic miserable lives. i said hating things is one of the ways people feel better about that. So, no, I'm not hating on people, just pointing out my opinion. Although the rain of idiotic responses is beginning to make me "hate on people"Father Time said:
I think people's main gripe is that it's put on a pedestal by every little fucker under the age of 14 (shush I'm totally not generalising) and it is genuinely a mediocre piece of work at best. It's unimaginative, uninspired and just plain pathetic,retyopy said:
My sister gave me the first book to read since she enjoyed it. I was bored one day after reaching the Elite Four with my terribly underleveled Pokemon, so I picked it up. I didn't read it all the way through in one sitting, but I at least finished it.
I thought it was the very definition of average. I didn't like it or dislike it. That doesn't mean, on the other hand, that I thought it wasn't worthy of all the hatred it's getting. The Companion Cube was a far better character than Bella, and every time Jacob or Edward was brought into the scene, my "fanservice for girls" detector exploded. Ninety percent of Jacob's screen time was spent shirtless. Edward was a flawless hero, his only apparent flaw being one that just made him sexier to the fangirls (though I admit it did flaw him pretty badly for the male readers).
I don't really like the idea of vampires exploding into flames in sunlight. I prefer it if they're just badly weakened, like Dracula. Then again, my favorite vampire of all time would die in sunlight.
It's Flandre Scarlet, by the way.
I thought it was the very definition of average. I didn't like it or dislike it. That doesn't mean, on the other hand, that I thought it wasn't worthy of all the hatred it's getting. The Companion Cube was a far better character than Bella, and every time Jacob or Edward was brought into the scene, my "fanservice for girls" detector exploded. Ninety percent of Jacob's screen time was spent shirtless. Edward was a flawless hero, his only apparent flaw being one that just made him sexier to the fangirls (though I admit it did flaw him pretty badly for the male readers).
I don't really like the idea of vampires exploding into flames in sunlight. I prefer it if they're just badly weakened, like Dracula. Then again, my favorite vampire of all time would die in sunlight.
It's Flandre Scarlet, by the way.
Boy, it sure is refreshing to see a forum that's about QUESTIONING hate instead of feeding on it like it was pizza.
Well, I can only speak for myself, so here it goes: the movies/books are nothing compared to the people who say they are the greatest thing ever and can't face anyone disagreeing without bursting into self-defensive and poorly-argumenting rage (who are NOT the entirety of the twilight fans). Those are the ones I have problems with, because I would actually like us all to be able to coexist without all the hate. The movies just annoy me a little, can't say anything about the books though.
As for the "reimagining" of the vampires as an issue, I did not like the sparkling vampire who feeds on animals and not humans, but I also didn't like the version of Dracula in which he is actually Judas, is weakened by silver and dies hanged in electric wires. I don't have anything against the act of reimagining things that have already been written, but there are some ideas I would not have agreed with.
Well, I think this is what I had to say, at least this is what I could say, it is almost 3 in the morning here. So let me say goodbye in a rather hippie way and wish that we are all able to put down the hate and accept that other people have crappy tastes (myself included, according to some point of view that certaily exists and against which I hold nothing, unless he's a Nazi).
Well, I can only speak for myself, so here it goes: the movies/books are nothing compared to the people who say they are the greatest thing ever and can't face anyone disagreeing without bursting into self-defensive and poorly-argumenting rage (who are NOT the entirety of the twilight fans). Those are the ones I have problems with, because I would actually like us all to be able to coexist without all the hate. The movies just annoy me a little, can't say anything about the books though.
As for the "reimagining" of the vampires as an issue, I did not like the sparkling vampire who feeds on animals and not humans, but I also didn't like the version of Dracula in which he is actually Judas, is weakened by silver and dies hanged in electric wires. I don't have anything against the act of reimagining things that have already been written, but there are some ideas I would not have agreed with.
Well, I think this is what I had to say, at least this is what I could say, it is almost 3 in the morning here. So let me say goodbye in a rather hippie way and wish that we are all able to put down the hate and accept that other people have crappy tastes (myself included, according to some point of view that certaily exists and against which I hold nothing, unless he's a Nazi).
It's more tha fans that are a pain. I read the first bit of Twilight, I got a few pages before my brain hopped out. It's just the culture that has formed around this below average piece of work, trying to elevating it to compete with classics.
The hate for the book is exaggerated, but not by much.
The hate for the book is exaggerated, but not by much.
I actually read the books, I like to give everything a chance before I hate it.
Or maybe I just enjoy being able to tear things I hate apart piece by piece.
Either way.
The books are absolutely terribly written. The characters are bland and stereotypical. It's uninteresting.
My biggest thing against it is the relationship between Edward and Bella. It's portraying what is arguably an incredibly abusive relationship in a positive light. http://io9.com/5413428/official-twilights-bella--edward-are-in-an-abusive-relationship sums it up best.
Or maybe I just enjoy being able to tear things I hate apart piece by piece.
Either way.
The books are absolutely terribly written. The characters are bland and stereotypical. It's uninteresting.
My biggest thing against it is the relationship between Edward and Bella. It's portraying what is arguably an incredibly abusive relationship in a positive light. http://io9.com/5413428/official-twilights-bella--edward-are-in-an-abusive-relationship sums it up best.
People hate on it because Stephanie Meyer has no fucking idea what a vampire is, or even a werewolf. She's been teaching impressionable young teens and pre-teens that having a stalker boyfriend who guilts you into submission with suicide threats is a healthy relationship.
She also spams synonyms for how "magnificent" the characters are, line after fucking line. I'm not joking when I tell you, none of the characters in Twilight are even slightly relatable and will have you saying the 8 deadly words in record time, if your brain is still intact after reading any of it.
If that's not enough, the fantar-sorry, fanGIRLS, are so unbelievably rabid that if you so much as literally roll your eyes at their brainless gushing about how Twilight is the infinite gift of Christ, you WILL be assaulted in the streets. I've heard stories, even pets have been killed in the name of Twilight, in an identical fashion to religious extremism. Students get threatened with murder and slightly older people get attacked in open streets.
Why Meyer was allowed to publish this garbage that has incited Biblical levels of violence (seriously) is beyond me.
It almost made me want to drop the vampire and werewolf mythos from my own metaverse seeing as how Meyer is to these popular Fantasy myths what Internet trolls are to best friends online. That is to say, sapping all the fun out of it!
She also spams synonyms for how "magnificent" the characters are, line after fucking line. I'm not joking when I tell you, none of the characters in Twilight are even slightly relatable and will have you saying the 8 deadly words in record time, if your brain is still intact after reading any of it.
If that's not enough, the fantar-sorry, fanGIRLS, are so unbelievably rabid that if you so much as literally roll your eyes at their brainless gushing about how Twilight is the infinite gift of Christ, you WILL be assaulted in the streets. I've heard stories, even pets have been killed in the name of Twilight, in an identical fashion to religious extremism. Students get threatened with murder and slightly older people get attacked in open streets.
Why Meyer was allowed to publish this garbage that has incited Biblical levels of violence (seriously) is beyond me.
It almost made me want to drop the vampire and werewolf mythos from my own metaverse seeing as how Meyer is to these popular Fantasy myths what Internet trolls are to best friends online. That is to say, sapping all the fun out of it!
No it still sucks...
It's lame and inarticulate, has no relevance to actual vampires and is just teen shit love affair where all the whiny kids think they have real problems.
Jesus Christ htfu.
It's lame and inarticulate, has no relevance to actual vampires and is just teen shit love affair where all the whiny kids think they have real problems.
Jesus Christ htfu.
You do understand that apart from one or two people here noone read the books?
Because there aren't that many 12 year old girls around.
As for the movies, they were bad, sure they were ok compared to Dawson's creek and all that teen drama horse shit, but compared to actual movies... it's just bad.
And then you add that they took a steaming runny dump on the image of vampires... I hate them for that alone.
Because there aren't that many 12 year old girls around.
As for the movies, they were bad, sure they were ok compared to Dawson's creek and all that teen drama horse shit, but compared to actual movies... it's just bad.
And then you add that they took a steaming runny dump on the image of vampires... I hate them for that alone.