nazi's are on of your favourite things?WrongSprite said:OH MY FREAKING GOD.
Who the hell put my two favourite things together? I want to bum them.
Namely? How does political correctness affect this over-saturation at all? We've yet to bring out such "potential classics" as "The Sims: Concentration Camp"? "Call of Duty: Kritzkrieg"? "Cooking Mama: Hitler Edition"? We've played Allies, Nazis, Pacific front, the entire European front, Russian front... We've had magic, zombies, robots, mutants and aliens involved... We've had silly and gritty... We've played as soldiers, spies, tank commanders, pilots and even generals...Therumancer said:That said I think there is still a lot you can do with World War II based games, without reaching for things like this. Albeit I don't think the world is quite ready to abandon political correctness enough to give the genere a real breath of fresh air.
Caliostro said:Namely? How does political correctness affect this over-saturation at all? We've yet to bring out such "potential classics" as "The Sims: Concentration Camp"? "Call of Duty: Kritzkrieg"? "Cooking Mama: Hitler Edition"? We've played Allies, Nazis, Pacific front, the entire European front, Russian front... We've had magic, zombies, robots, mutants and aliens involved... We've had silly and gritty... We've played as soldiers, spies, tank commanders, pilots and even generals...Therumancer said:That said I think there is still a lot you can do with World War II based games, without reaching for things like this. Albeit I don't think the world is quite ready to abandon political correctness enough to give the genere a real breath of fresh air.
What is honestly missing? I don't remember any other entire genre that has been this explored, this abused... What is there left to do? Between all the games, series and movies, the remakes of D-Day alone are bigger than the entire fucking war was.
I suppose this sort of sums my feelings towards this. Dinosaurs in a shooter... Can be cool, yes, interesting... Hasn't been very explored yet, Turok and Dino Crysis certainly left room to mess with. Why the fuck is it WWII AGAIN...? Is it ALL for the inevitable "moneyshot" of a T-rex or group of raptors with swastikas?
you know this reminds me of that one movielvl9000_woot said:I don't know what that means, but I'm scared...WrongSprite said:OH MY FREAKING GOD.
Who the hell put my two favourite things together? I want to bum them.
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Hmm...I might play it if the dino's were zombies and the Nazi's were werewolf-aliens. I mean hey, if you're going to mix crazy shit like this, why half-ass it?
I'm high-fiving my facepalmhazabaza1 said:I don't know whether I should facepalm, or high five someone.
Cool story,broRemember the suggested "Seven Days In Fallujah" game? A game that wanted to approach the subject of war "realistically" in sort of the fashion of a Survival Horror game?
In general, the overwhelming majority of WW II games take a huge "Allies, are shining white knights, the Nazis are horrible over the top evil". Granted there have been some takes trying to be more realistic than others with you know lots of mud, and some shades of gray that were within permissable levels. All basicall reinforcing the image of World War II as "the last good war" but at the same time causing people to forget what it is to really fight.
If you were to say make a game about the final days of Berlin with the allies engaging the Volkssturm, slaughtering civilians, and doing all of the kinds of things we did but pretend we didn't (and only exist in old photographs that you usually have to request books of if you even know the titles), I think you could give the genere a rather unique spin, and then that spin could be re-explored in all the supernatural stuff.
What's more the whole "Nazis bad" thing is taken to extremes. You could for example do a game portraying characters as being part of Hitler's occult forces fighting supernatural menaces just as much as his guys could be "devil worshippers out to support the reich with black magic" or whatever today's spin on it is. The war of course largely being a backdrop.
You could also do a game all about recovering artworks and such. While not politically correct to "remember", it should be noted that one of the things that fueled the Holocaust was the way a lot of lost treasures and such were being pulled out of the vaults of Synagogues and off the estates of wealthy jewish landlords (among other things). A lot of the collections currently held by museums actually owe the Nazis a large debt for recovering this stuff, and once in a while you hear about a suit being brough up demanding some museum or other "return" an art treasure to a Jewish family whose ancestors "stole it first" for all intents and purposes. Issues about various items of antinquity being "bathed in jewish blood" exist for this reason.
The point is that the Nazis WERE bad, and we were generally the good guys. But they were not AS bad as is claimed, nor were we AS good. You don't need to create a concentration camp sim, or anything that ridiculous. You can however see a lot of story potential in the gray areas that people are afraid to explore.
I simply think nobody has the guts to go there and stick to their guns.