Disney Acquires Lucasfilm
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I am pleased by this, it just means that instead of seeing HD/3D re-re-releases of five old movies we get to roll the dice on some new canon. And given how much I have enjoyed the works of Disney recently I couldn't be happier with where two of my most cherished franchises have ended up.
Friends and I were discussing 'what if the original Trilogy was re-made?' a few days ago. Overall our consensus was that we just wanted another team to take a crack at rekindling the spark and heart of the originals while keeping in mind what took the 'soul' per-say out of the prequels.
My only problem is no one to my knowledge could be as compelling as Harrison Ford's Han Solo, and you know they will try to craft a similarly archetypal character for these movies. And even if they don't, then the audience will say that it lacked that kind of character. I can't see them winning in that department.
Also what far too many of you are glossing over is that with Disney owning these franchises Kingdom Hearts 3 could have a Star Wars themed world!
Lightsaber Keyblade anyone!? (nope... just me still waiting, ok...)
And does this mean I now have to ask Disney who shot first?
Friends and I were discussing 'what if the original Trilogy was re-made?' a few days ago. Overall our consensus was that we just wanted another team to take a crack at rekindling the spark and heart of the originals while keeping in mind what took the 'soul' per-say out of the prequels.
My only problem is no one to my knowledge could be as compelling as Harrison Ford's Han Solo, and you know they will try to craft a similarly archetypal character for these movies. And even if they don't, then the audience will say that it lacked that kind of character. I can't see them winning in that department.
Also what far too many of you are glossing over is that with Disney owning these franchises Kingdom Hearts 3 could have a Star Wars themed world!
Lightsaber Keyblade anyone!? (nope... just me still waiting, ok...)
And does this mean I now have to ask Disney who shot first?
Sad fact of the matter is, they're never going to make another movie that can even come close to the original trilogy. They really need to just let the IP die while it still has some small shred of dignity left, instead of continuing to milk it until no one likes the thing anymore (it's already most of the way there btw).Dexter111 said:
I'd have preferred a Star Wars movie without the whole "Episode" thing, just to give it a fresh start, but oh well. Disney generally makes quality movies, and they haven't yet shown signs of restricting the creativity of the companies they own like Pixar, so i'm thinking this will be a very good thing. We can have Star Wars back to being something beyond a joke, and with new directors and minds behind the projects we might see some real creativity shine through. So yay. And stuff.
Personally I'm really hoping Joss Whedon gets to direct the next movies. Avengers aside, he has a good rep when it comes to Star Wars style sci-fi -- Serenity and Titan AE come to mind. Plus he's said that if given the chance he would make a movie with lots of big space ships blowing up other big spaceships and frankly I'm sick to death of the Jedi.
Star Wars is the perfect universe for that. I mean hell, what if we got to see a Star Destroyer and a Mon Calamari cruiser duking it out? I mean like real ship to ship combat involving a Star Destroyer? Or imagine a space battle taking place in the ruins of the Death Star II over Endor? Arrgh, the possibilities!
On another note, given that Disney is great at preserving the classics, maybe, just maybe we'll finally get to have the original theatrical releases on dvd/blu-ray. I seriously want that, Star Wars in its original un-blemished form.
Star Wars is the perfect universe for that. I mean hell, what if we got to see a Star Destroyer and a Mon Calamari cruiser duking it out? I mean like real ship to ship combat involving a Star Destroyer? Or imagine a space battle taking place in the ruins of the Death Star II over Endor? Arrgh, the possibilities!
On another note, given that Disney is great at preserving the classics, maybe, just maybe we'll finally get to have the original theatrical releases on dvd/blu-ray. I seriously want that, Star Wars in its original un-blemished form.
Can we please let Star Wars die the slow painful death? I am sick and tired of listening to the bitching whining and complaining that fanboys have done over the last 15 years because Lucas raeped their childhood, or whatever else they are complaining about. Get over it, fanboys.
Maybe Lucas did the right thing with changing the movie around the way he did. Considering that you are still talking about these changes 15 years later means that it was a successful gambit.
To Disney, Star Wars is nothing more than a cash cow that they are going to milk until it's dead.
For me, that is going to make summer very boring. 1-2 Super hero movies every year, A transformers movie every 3 years, now a different Star Wars movie every 2-3 years. That's going to be boring, more boring than it really should be.
Maybe Lucas did the right thing with changing the movie around the way he did. Considering that you are still talking about these changes 15 years later means that it was a successful gambit.
To Disney, Star Wars is nothing more than a cash cow that they are going to milk until it's dead.
For me, that is going to make summer very boring. 1-2 Super hero movies every year, A transformers movie every 3 years, now a different Star Wars movie every 2-3 years. That's going to be boring, more boring than it really should be.
You know, I was letting this percolate around in my brain for a bit and a peculiar thought bubbled up: What does this mean for all the people who make Star Wars fan videos? Lucasfilm never had an issue with that sort of thing- in fact, I'm fairly sure they were known for lending expertise and tips- but Disney tends to be a LOT more restrictive with their properties.
There are suppose to be 9 chapters total, I could spoil a few things from some one that reads BOOKS but that wouldn't be fun.Anachronism said:
Never really said the old Tron was "high art". It was a pretty cheesy film. As was Legacy.(though, one can't deny the possibilities within the franchise. possibilities that, sadly, have only been explored by parties outside of Disney)cerebus23 said:
Also never said Disney would be worse than Lucas. God knows that man just loves to mess with the old movies. At times, seemingly to just piss off the fans.
However, my point was (a point I sadly didn't elaborate on before, my bad) Disney has acquired, through this acquisition, two very big, very popular franchises. And paid a LOT of money to do so.
What this will likely mean is they will "play it safe". Especially with the films.
By that I mean they won't do anything to unique, jarring, or unexpected with the franchise. We aren't likely to see any deep, varied narratives or production designs. We'll more likely see a lot more of the same. Essentially rehashing of stories and themes of the previous six films.
They'll try to make the films appeal to the widest possible audience. They spent over four billion dollars on acquiring the Lucas studios alone. That doesn't include film production costs, advertising, marketing, and franchising that will inevitably occur.
That's my primary concern. That Disney has spent so much on this that they won't try anything new or different with the franchise.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong. But I don't know...
Honestly I'm more interested in what might come of Lucas Arts, and what we should expect from them in the future under new managment.
They still hold the rights to the series Monkey Island and a cult classic Grim Fandago, along with one of the only few good Star Wars games, the Jedi Knight series. ( yea yea, Old republic is good blah de blah)I wonder if we're going to see a few new games out of these, or if they will sorta stagnate some more. TellTale would love to work with Monkey Island again if I recall correctly.
They still hold the rights to the series Monkey Island and a cult classic Grim Fandago, along with one of the only few good Star Wars games, the Jedi Knight series. ( yea yea, Old republic is good blah de blah)I wonder if we're going to see a few new games out of these, or if they will sorta stagnate some more. TellTale would love to work with Monkey Island again if I recall correctly.
If anything, the material says otherwise. Jabba (while not an alien) was planned in the original film (and was filmed) as a furcoat-wearing human gangster. Luke was always going to live, and (according to the various outlines he and Gary Kurtz released over the years) he was always going to be the protagonist of a potential sequel trilogy.Foolproof said:
Sure, Lando and the brother/sister angle was added in after the fact, but the point remains. The original drafts of SW (as Journal of the Whills and the early shooting scripts) were very clear. Luke was the protagonist all through the OT, not Vader. Any attempt to say otherwise is falling for the Kool-Aid Lucas slipped you for the past few years.
Yes, considering this is the guy who:
- as recently as five years ago, said there would never, ever be an episode VII/VIII/IX
- has refrained from releasing the original versions of his films for years on end, largely because he supposedly feels embarrassed by the effects
- has continually tinkered with his films over the last two decades, to the point that there are no less than four disparate versions of the OT (theatrical/Special Edition/2004/2011)
- became a pariah in the eyes of the fanbase
- the hated "Han shot first"/"Luke's scream"/"Vader's ROTJ 'NO!'" as examples of changing characters beyond their original portraysl and characterization to better fit his revisionist history
- was widely criticized for the Prequel Trilogy, to the point that you can make enough of a case that he wrote the whole thing out of an inferiority complex, and put barely any work whatsoever into it
I could go on all day. Frankly, I'm glad that Lucas is out of the chief operating role in the franchise, because that means I won't have to put up with sycophant fanboys trying to push Lucas' revisionist ideals to a public that knows far better.
My God...you're right! Finally a lightsaber-like Keyblade is possible. Also, now I can say that Xemnas did have lightsabers as weapons. XDnothingspringstomind said:
Seriously KH II had a lot of stuff like that of Star Wars. Take the final gummi mission where we literally had to destroy a cube version of the Death Star!
...I can understand giving away the franchise to a different studio, but Disney...? My head is full of fuck.
Wow. Words are not adequate. Not the whole Disney-buys-Lucasfilms, I don't really care. It's the whole "Episode 7" that scares me. Nerds have a whole thing going, y'know? Prequels suck, the actual series get a thumbs up. The 7th movie isn't a prequel, so how will our sayings survive if (when, really) it sucks? We'll lose a valuable part of nerd culture.