Disney Acquires Lucasfilm

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Vigormortis

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cerebus23 said:
Not like the og tron was high art or brainy or anything.

Still lucas could not do much worse than epi 1 2 and 3, so any transition from the all mighty lucas with all consuming greed surrounded by yes people 24/7 is a good thing.

even if they disneyfy it it would still have more heart and character than the first 3 films put together.

but disney also has pixar under them, so it seems to more depend on the property studio that is working for disney, does pixar prosper because they are managed well by disney? or do they prosper because disney gives them a free hand?

disney has consistently made good and bad films over the years, their pure film production co seems to lack any real vision or great talent outside of pixar itself, maybe with the people coming over to oversee the license, with lucas having some outside say, we can get some good films, games and etc made because we know in the last 15 or so years any good star wars games have been few and far between, remember when lucasarts made games that people could not wait to play?

the og films got redeited and changed in silly ways just so lucas could put out 20 different editions to sell to people, the new films are absolute garbage, so i have a hard time seeing where less lucas and more of other people could possibly make stuff worse, no matter what hollywood mega corp ended up with it.
Never really said the old Tron was "high art". It was a pretty cheesy film. As was Legacy.(though, one can't deny the possibilities within the franchise. possibilities that, sadly, have only been explored by parties outside of Disney)

Also never said Disney would be worse than Lucas. God knows that man just loves to mess with the old movies. At times, seemingly to just piss off the fans.

However, my point was (a point I sadly didn't elaborate on before, my bad) Disney has acquired, through this acquisition, two very big, very popular franchises. And paid a LOT of money to do so.

What this will likely mean is they will "play it safe". Especially with the films.

By that I mean they won't do anything to unique, jarring, or unexpected with the franchise. We aren't likely to see any deep, varied narratives or production designs. We'll more likely see a lot more of the same. Essentially rehashing of stories and themes of the previous six films.

They'll try to make the films appeal to the widest possible audience. They spent over four billion dollars on acquiring the Lucas studios alone. That doesn't include film production costs, advertising, marketing, and franchising that will inevitably occur.

That's my primary concern. That Disney has spent so much on this that they won't try anything new or different with the franchise.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong. But I don't know...
 

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Honestly I'm more interested in what might come of Lucas Arts, and what we should expect from them in the future under new managment.

They still hold the rights to the series Monkey Island and a cult classic Grim Fandago, along with one of the only few good Star Wars games, the Jedi Knight series. ( yea yea, Old republic is good blah de blah)I wonder if we're going to see a few new games out of these, or if they will sorta stagnate some more. TellTale would love to work with Monkey Island again if I recall correctly.
 

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doomboy29 said:
Disney might make Star Wars good again!
Indeed, I mean look at how well Marvel is doing. But I'm really not surprised by them buying it as Tomorrowland has so much Star Wars stuff in it.
 

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Foolproof said:
Things that were also completely up in the air until he actually wrote ESB - Jabba the Hutt. Luke and Leia being brother and sister. Han Solo living. Lando Calrisian. Luke not dying.

Nothing about the original movies was ever well thought out or pre-planned (If they were, Luke and Leia wouldn't have made out), it was all slapped together at the last minute. However, from ESB on Lucas could tell that Vader meant more within the series, having grown from a stock dragon to actually becoming this powerful part of the series universe.
If anything, the material says otherwise. Jabba (while not an alien) was planned in the original film (and was filmed) as a furcoat-wearing human gangster. Luke was always going to live, and (according to the various outlines he and Gary Kurtz released over the years) he was always going to be the protagonist of a potential sequel trilogy.

Sure, Lando and the brother/sister angle was added in after the fact, but the point remains. The original drafts of SW (as Journal of the Whills and the early shooting scripts) were very clear. Luke was the protagonist all through the OT, not Vader. Any attempt to say otherwise is falling for the Kool-Aid Lucas slipped you for the past few years.

Lucas, the series creator is telling you you're wrong and you're an idiot. You arguing with the literal god of the Star Wars universe. Are you going to actually say things against what the guy who made the universe says?
Yes, considering this is the guy who:

- as recently as five years ago, said there would never, ever be an episode VII/VIII/IX

- has refrained from releasing the original versions of his films for years on end, largely because he supposedly feels embarrassed by the effects

- has continually tinkered with his films over the last two decades, to the point that there are no less than four disparate versions of the OT (theatrical/Special Edition/2004/2011)

- became a pariah in the eyes of the fanbase

- the hated "Han shot first"/"Luke's scream"/"Vader's ROTJ 'NO!'" as examples of changing characters beyond their original portraysl and characterization to better fit his revisionist history

- was widely criticized for the Prequel Trilogy, to the point that you can make enough of a case that he wrote the whole thing out of an inferiority complex, and put barely any work whatsoever into it

I could go on all day. Frankly, I'm glad that Lucas is out of the chief operating role in the franchise, because that means I won't have to put up with sycophant fanboys trying to push Lucas' revisionist ideals to a public that knows far better.
 

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nothingspringstomind said:
I was a bit "meh" about all this, then i realized;

"Holy shit! This means it's okay for Star Wars to appear in a Kingdom Hearts game!"

My God...you're right! Finally a lightsaber-like Keyblade is possible. Also, now I can say that Xemnas did have lightsabers as weapons. XD
Seriously KH II had a lot of stuff like that of Star Wars. Take the final gummi mission where we literally had to destroy a cube version of the Death Star!
 

thirion1850

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...I can understand giving away the franchise to a different studio, but Disney...? My head is full of fuck.
 

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Wow. Words are not adequate. Not the whole Disney-buys-Lucasfilms, I don't really care. It's the whole "Episode 7" that scares me. Nerds have a whole thing going, y'know? Prequels suck, the actual series get a thumbs up. The 7th movie isn't a prequel, so how will our sayings survive if (when, really) it sucks? We'll lose a valuable part of nerd culture.
 

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Best news I've heard in ages personally.

Star Wars was already fucked beyond recognition and basically worthless to me past the theatrical release of the OT. Them (Lucas) finally giving it up to other people might finally reboot it into something worthwhile, as it is the best parts of Star Wars for years has been all the things other people have done with it.
 

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Well we can only wait and with hope and all our will power we shall wish for redemption.
 

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Gottesstrafe said:
Hey wait, doesn't this mean that Disney also owns the rights to Indiana Jones and the canceled Monkey Island film?
No to Indiana Jones. Paramount still has partial rights for the franchise and so anything related to that could not be transferred to Disney at this time. Although it could go to Disney when the contract ends with Paramount.

Unknown about Monkey Island, it was probably not part of the deal, but you never know.

Also Disney seem very excited about wanting more Star Wars based theme park attractions, possibly a theme park dedicated to Star Wars, but that was not mentioned in the press videos.
 

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So Lucas got 2 billions in cash? I guess he is going to make more mediocre films with it.
Dysney just became Eidos, a all sucking and destroying whirpool of crap death
 

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So, Episode 7?

Wait, if this continues off of episode 6...

Does this mean we get see the Thrawn campaign?

And if they do the traditional set of 3 movies...Yuuhzan Vong war?
 

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I'd love to see some material done that wasn't meant to be so epic in the star wars universe, not that the epic films would be bad, but there just seems to be so many possibilities with the universe opening up.

I kind of hope they ignore the books, ignore the mediclorians or whatever their called, and go back to strong character development with an over arching story in the background that the characters may or may not get mixed up in. I think that is what made the originals so awesome, kind of like what Joss did with Firefly.
 

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That's nice.

Yep, I really have nothing more to say. The worst that can happen is George Lucas losing control over the franchise, which...isn't exactly heartbreaking. That and everyone freaked over Disney acquiring Marvel, and not a single one of their fears came true (save Spectacular Spider-Man being replaced by a drastically inferior show). It's not worth worrying about.
 

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Anachronism said:
Now, more seriously. Why? Why Episode 7? What is the point? As much as people tend to hate the prequels, the saga as it currently stands tells one consistent story: the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. The story is done, there's no need for more films. What would be gained by adding to that?

Oh wait, I forgot. Money. As if The Avengers didn't earn Disney enough.
What could be gained? I don't know, maybe new stories that add to the lore of Star Wars. At this point I thought it'd be obvious to everyone that Star Wars isn't just about the original and prequel movies. Given all the video games, comics, and novels out there I think its been proven there can be stories that go beyond the tale of Anakin Skywalker and expand upon the massive universe that is Star Wars.

Anyway...WOW talk about coming straight out of left field. I must admit I never though I'd see the another Star Wars trilogy in my lifetime.

Given how the Marvel films, especially the Avengers, have been good or at least enjoyable I am currently optimistic about this, though cautiously. I most say though I don't envy whoever the writers are going to be. Given the size of the Star Wars extended universe, writing an original story that doesn't kick continuity to the curb has got to be nightmare. And even if they do just decide to adapt a novel trilogy, it sure as hell won't be an easy task.
 

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Baldr said:
Gottesstrafe said:
Hey wait, doesn't this mean that Disney also owns the rights to Indiana Jones and the canceled Monkey Island film?
No to Indiana Jones.
The agreement states that Disney gets the rights to the property and all future installments of the Indiana Jones franchise (probably the same as the SW agreement - all upcoming Indy films will bear the Disney logo).
 

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This is a trap XD ... But really they could make some prettey good indiana jones and Star Wars prequels (old republick) in Pirates of carribean stile...
 

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Not gonna lie, kind of ok with this. Lucas always wanted Star Wars sequels beyond episode 6 to be made by a series of different directors and minds anyway. I see this kind of as creative fulfilment.
 

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PhunkyPhazon said:
That's nice.

Yep, I really have nothing more to say. The worst that can happen is George Lucas losing control over the franchise, which...isn't exactly heartbreaking. That and everyone freaked over Disney acquiring Marvel, and not a single one of their fears came true (save Spectacular Spider-Man being replaced by a drastically inferior show). It's not worth worrying about.
Spider-Man films aren't owned nor made by marvel nor Disney. They're owned by Sony and Spider-Man is literally owned by marvel by name alone.