Disney Is Stupid, And You're Dumb
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That's just one thing though, nearly everything causes me to fume with rage. Someone told me that "rapists are doing their victims a favour in the long run."Boudica said:
You know? Because ALL rape victims become strong women, right? -_-
Here are some movies you MAY think have been missed
Personally, I vote Rescuers Down Under, Great Mouse Detective, and Fantasia.
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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo
Bambi
Saludos Amigos
The Three Caballeros
Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free
Melody Time
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
Cinderella
Alice in Wonderland
Peter Pan
Lady and the Tramp
Sleeping Beauty
One Hundred and One Dalmatians
The Sword in the Stone
The Jungle Book
The Aristocats
Robin Hood
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
The Rescuers
The Fox and the Hound
The Black Cauldron
The Great Mouse Detective
Oliver & Company
The Little Mermaid
The Rescuers Down Under
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
Pocahontas
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Hercules
Mulan
Tarzan
Fantasia 2000
Dinosaur
The Emperor's New Groove
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Lilo & Stitch
Treasure Planet
Brother Bear
Home on the Range
Chicken Little
Meet the Robinsons
Bolt
The Princess and the Frog
Tangled
Winnie the Pooh
Ok fine, you asked for it.Boudica said:
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http://www.whattoexpect.com/forums/july-2010-babies/archives/article-women-who-breastfeed-are-pedophiles.htmlBoudica said:
And this.
Yeah... I literally smash furniture sometimes. Call me immature, but sometimes I just can't help myself. My curiosity overwhelms me, and I come across things like this. *Sigh*Boudica said:
Can't disagree with the varying tastes, & I'll bet no one shares my top 10.
*3 Caballeros: Cute music & I'm pretty damn sure the animators were high when they made it.
*Bedknobs & Broomsticks, because their pre-70s movies were good.
*Fantasia: Could have done without that Mickey the Wizard part though.
*Beauty & the Beast: Woman does not instantly fall head over heals for guy. Gestan doesn't exist outside of the Disney version & he was a massive improvident to the story, whereas all their other adaptations take away & water down the original story.
*Make Mine Music: Very artistic, good music.
*Nightmare Before Christmas: The most un-Disney thing Disney ever did.
*Who Framed Roger Rabbit: Back when Disney knew that adult humor would go right over kid's heads.
*The Great Mouse Detective: Because anything Vincent Price touches becomes gold, no matter how camp it is.
*Hunchback of Notre Dame: Gargoyles were unnecessary, but Frolo & Esmerelda were unforgettable.
*Gargoyles pilot: The first so-many episodes of the TV series were actually a movie cut into segments.
Least favorite, because Japan did it better:
*Swan Princess: The Swan Lake anime follows the book & plays Tchaikovsky. Okay, so it's not technically a Disney movie, but the film is directed by a former Disney animation director Richard Rich & it was done in their style intentionally.
*Lion King: The Jungle Emperor Leo anime is what TLK is really ripping off, & JEL had a fine blend of camp & violence that American parents wouldn't have been thrilled with.
*The Little Mermaid: Original moral is left intact & the ending will actually make children cry.
*Pinocchio: Disney gave it a movie, Japan gave it a TV series.
*Anything not done in cell animation or stop-motion, because f**k CGI.
*3 Caballeros: Cute music & I'm pretty damn sure the animators were high when they made it.
*Bedknobs & Broomsticks, because their pre-70s movies were good.
*Fantasia: Could have done without that Mickey the Wizard part though.
*Beauty & the Beast: Woman does not instantly fall head over heals for guy. Gestan doesn't exist outside of the Disney version & he was a massive improvident to the story, whereas all their other adaptations take away & water down the original story.
*Make Mine Music: Very artistic, good music.
*Nightmare Before Christmas: The most un-Disney thing Disney ever did.
*Who Framed Roger Rabbit: Back when Disney knew that adult humor would go right over kid's heads.
*The Great Mouse Detective: Because anything Vincent Price touches becomes gold, no matter how camp it is.
*Hunchback of Notre Dame: Gargoyles were unnecessary, but Frolo & Esmerelda were unforgettable.
*Gargoyles pilot: The first so-many episodes of the TV series were actually a movie cut into segments.
Least favorite, because Japan did it better:
*Swan Princess: The Swan Lake anime follows the book & plays Tchaikovsky. Okay, so it's not technically a Disney movie, but the film is directed by a former Disney animation director Richard Rich & it was done in their style intentionally.
*Lion King: The Jungle Emperor Leo anime is what TLK is really ripping off, & JEL had a fine blend of camp & violence that American parents wouldn't have been thrilled with.
*The Little Mermaid: Original moral is left intact & the ending will actually make children cry.
*Pinocchio: Disney gave it a movie, Japan gave it a TV series.
*Anything not done in cell animation or stop-motion, because f**k CGI.
I truly didn't like Beauty and the Beast. Not sure why, but even when a few years back a girlfriend tried to get me to watch it with her... I was just bored the whole time. Perhaps it was too predictable (I know all Disney movies are btw)
Something just never felt right or natural in it. It was like some kind of story I'd heard a bajillion times, except it was told in a horribly annoying voice, by ridiculously eccentric characters.
I'm glad the Hunchback got some love though. That movie was awesome.
Would El Dorado have counted as one of those animated movies? Did Disney even make it?
It's one of the few ones that always pops into my head when people talk about disney animated movies... I'm really not sure why.
Something just never felt right or natural in it. It was like some kind of story I'd heard a bajillion times, except it was told in a horribly annoying voice, by ridiculously eccentric characters.
I'm glad the Hunchback got some love though. That movie was awesome.
Would El Dorado have counted as one of those animated movies? Did Disney even make it?
It's one of the few ones that always pops into my head when people talk about disney animated movies... I'm really not sure why.
As my personal favourite Disney film (ARGH! This is like trying to rate Pixar films!) I will say that anyone who hasn't seen Lilo and Stitch is doing themselves a disservice. It's funny and cute but also surprisingly dark and affecting. Seriously, try it.
The Little Mermaid isn't any dumber than any of those other movies, really, just about every Disney film (there's at least one exception in Emperor's New Groove) is broad and thematically incoherent (Ariel gets her happy ending by making a deal with the devil, Bell has Stockholm Syndrome, Foxes and Hounds can learn to not kill each other but can't really be friends, and monarchy is a totally viable system of government). Really, any perceived "dumbness" in The Little Mermaid probably comes from the fact that, unlike a lot of other Disney films, it at least doesn't have a tone that pretends to be saying more than it does.
Oh, and the correct answer is "Tangled."
Oh, and the correct answer is "Tangled."
Wow, it is clear that these No Right Explanation guys are way younger than I...because *all* of their top 10 films are from the new generation of Disney films. Which was a generation that didn't even register in my brain...though I did see Mulan. But no Sleeping Beauty, Jungle Book...etc.
Product of its time, indeed! It isn't just Disney films that are products of their time, but also No Right Explanation (actually everything this so, you know)
Not a critique, just an observation!
But one that makes me feel old.
Product of its time, indeed! It isn't just Disney films that are products of their time, but also No Right Explanation (actually everything this so, you know)
Not a critique, just an observation!
But one that makes me feel old.
I don't really have favorite Disney movies lists. I just know I like a majority of them, so...*raspberry*
I'm just a huge Tangled and am a little sad no-one even mentioned it. If that's wrong, I don't want to be right. Tangled was fantastic; funny, charming, and had substance.
But yes, Beauty and the Beast is probably the best one.
But yes, Beauty and the Beast is probably the best one.
When I see things like this the first thought that comes to my mind is that the contenders are by and large too recent, we're looking at a competition that is largely pitting the animated movies of Generation X against each other, with nods to Generation Y's "Pixar" movies like Toy Story. The problem with this of course is that it overlooks things like "Snow White" and "Cinderella" which arguably started it all, set high bars for animation for pretty much forever, and most importantly have been watched and embraced by pretty much every generation since their release, in some cases setting sales records when they have been held back from public release and then re-released on video or in theaters. I'd say that while it's POSSIBLE that someone hasn't seen these movies, I'd imagine far more people have seen them and liked them than any of the modern contenders, especially if you start thinking globally.
When it comes down to things like the best Disney villain, consider that when all all the bad folks gather around at night (Disney crossovers are frequent) it's not Jim Walker or Jafar they look to for leadership, it's inevitably Malificent , the evil queen, a character that is both instantly recognized and absolutly oozes dark charisma, not to mention having been the bearer of one of the most dramatic beat downs to Disney heroes (and part of what is their best over all fight scene/confrontation).
Now, don't misunderstand this, I'm not actually breaking this down to a personal favorite, but saying there are some objective criteria that can be used. If your going to argue "best" at this time you need to look at classic disney, give it a few more generations and if Aladdin, Beauty and The Beast, or some of the works of Pixar are still around and being viewed the same way, then they would be due for consideration.
In closing, other than a certain evil Queen from one movie, how many of the Seven Dwarves would you recognize? The answer might surprise you, and I think you'll get more recognition from that, than Timon and Pumbaa no matter how praised "The Lion King" might be, at least for the moment. None of these works have endured long enough to be a true, multi-generational global phenomena.
So to throw my hat into the ring, instead of analyzing the match up, and talking about how it's subjective, you might want to kind of consider than the real match up probably should have been "Cinderella" against "Snow White".
When it comes down to things like the best Disney villain, consider that when all all the bad folks gather around at night (Disney crossovers are frequent) it's not Jim Walker or Jafar they look to for leadership, it's inevitably Malificent , the evil queen, a character that is both instantly recognized and absolutly oozes dark charisma, not to mention having been the bearer of one of the most dramatic beat downs to Disney heroes (and part of what is their best over all fight scene/confrontation).
Now, don't misunderstand this, I'm not actually breaking this down to a personal favorite, but saying there are some objective criteria that can be used. If your going to argue "best" at this time you need to look at classic disney, give it a few more generations and if Aladdin, Beauty and The Beast, or some of the works of Pixar are still around and being viewed the same way, then they would be due for consideration.
In closing, other than a certain evil Queen from one movie, how many of the Seven Dwarves would you recognize? The answer might surprise you, and I think you'll get more recognition from that, than Timon and Pumbaa no matter how praised "The Lion King" might be, at least for the moment. None of these works have endured long enough to be a true, multi-generational global phenomena.
So to throw my hat into the ring, instead of analyzing the match up, and talking about how it's subjective, you might want to kind of consider than the real match up probably should have been "Cinderella" against "Snow White".
If it will make you feel better, when I watched Tangled with Chris, one of us was very teary-eyed and it wasn't me.BlindChance said: