Do not waste your money on Dawnguard.

[ilexuki]

20 hours? how? you leave the game on for 15 hours then start playing? i'd say maybe 10 hours. i blew through it in about5 hours on my first character, but it took much longer on my second due to not having done the main story and the dlc requiring you to obtain a certain scroll that isn't even used.

what i did find really disappointing is the game is almost exactly the same regardless if you choose the vamps or the dawnguard. the crossbow is fun to use, but at this point i one hit kill with bows anyway, so it's purely aesthetic.

there is really only 2 completely new areas utilizing new assets, but they are pretty much empty and have nothing going on in them. the werewolf overhaul is cool but... well it's useless in the dlc, since you fight mostly undead you are unable to heal yourself, and just about all the vamps use magic making quick work of you.vampire lord is fun, but underpowered, group of enemies can kill you easily.

i don't think it's worth 20 dollars(there are mods on the nexus with better content for free), nor would i consider it an "expansion" in the traditional sense, but i did get it, and i did have fun playing through it, so it's up to you whether you can wait a few more months and get it cheaper,or not.

 

[M-E-D The Poet]

Steam informed that "Dawnguard [is] now available" so like the sucker I am I went to Skyrims store page and prepared to whip out my credit card... Then I see it: 19.99 euro for Dawnguard? They want me to pay five euros more for a fairly short DLC then I did for Orcs Must Die 2? They want me to pay the price of 2 meaty New Vegas DLC for that?

Gethsemani made a stand, said "No way!" and booted up Orcs Must Die 2 instead, because she wants value for her money.

Wasn't it originally meant to be 15?

Cole: oh shit!

 

[minimacker]

I suckered into buying it the moment it got released.

But yeah, I agree. Wait for a price drop.

 

[MorganL4]

I'll do as I damn well please with my money.

I don't get why people make these kinds of threads, you may think you're trying to help people, but you just come across as annoying telling people not to buy something.

I'll do as I damn well please with my threads.

I don't get why people make these kinds of replies, you may think you're acting smart, but you just come across as a raging fanboy getting angry when people express their opinions.

I don't think I'm acting smart, I think I'm telling someone what I can and can't do with my money and that he, nor anyone else should tell other people what they can and can't spend their money on.

Want to express your opinion? Try making the thread title sound more like an expression than a statement. "I don't think you should spend your money on Dawnguard" or "Why I feel ripped off from Dawnguard" not "Do not waste your money on Dawnguard". It sounds more inviting if you don't come across stating your opinion as fact.

Not really, he is just giving a review ( albeit a rather abrupt and one sided review, imagine that on the site with Yahtzee) on a particular piece of DLC, and you know what? He didn't like it, so he is trying to tell us "Do not bother" And he has every right to do that, you have the right to take or leave is advice.... Same as he does to give it.

 

[DaemonicShadow]

I got it for fourteen quid and it was well worth it as far as I'm concerned. I like to think of it as Skyrim's Knights of the Nine, which was also a good expansion despite not adding a whole new area to the game world.

As I see it (this being the perspective of a Bethesda fanboy, mind you) it was easily worth 1600 MP and hey, it can't be any worse than Mothership Zeta, right?

 

[AMMO Kid]

I'm not sure how much you have played Skyrim, but the upgraded crossbow is a beast. To say that it is just a lesser bow sounds ridiculous to me. Also, I didn't find it hard at all to choose between the two, and the later choices were good too.

Overall, it did add a lot to the game by just adding vampire and werewolf perks, and the story was a long enough to keep me engaged for hours. I honestly don't understand why some people are so negative about things like this (especially when it's only $20 for content that will affect pretty much everything else in the game).

 

[mrnightwing]

Well Bethesda did charge ten dollars for horse armor (initially). so The initial price for dawnguard isn't to surprising.

 

[The Scotsman72]

I bought it just because I was slightly intregued by it and could easily afford it. I found it had a good amount of content, but it still had a few problems such as the fact that the new areas it provided looked nice, but I really had no reason to go back to them after I was done with the main quest line, so the only thing I really ended up with by the end of the dlc was a crossbow, some new armor and a new companion, by which I could have gotten something similar by downloading some mods instead.

In short, you should probably only buy it if you have some money to burn or you're a hardcore Skyrim fan. Otherwise, it would be best just to try some new quest mods instead.

 

[ShotgunZombie]

Dawnguard has about as much content in it as one of Fallout 3's downloadable content pieces.

Alright dude, maybe it's just me but that's where you lost me. As I remember each new piece of DLC for Fallout 3, with the exception of Operation Anchorage which sucked, either added a metric fuckton of content to the base game like new loot, characters, locales, questlines, etc. I mean hell, Broken Steel even brought a couple of new endings! Some even took place in locations completely separated from the Capital Wasteland and then added a metric fuckton of content. That's when your argument kinda falls apart for me but I don't know maybe that's just my inner Bethesda Fanboy talking... No offence though.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

I can't be arsed sifting through a quoting specific examples, you in general just come across as dickish.

Joining before you means it is not a lack if experience, which I seemed to of not typed, my apologies there.

I don't care that you don't like Dawnguard, as I stated with my original post. It's that you don't have the right to tell people what they can or cannot buy with their money. I would of said the same thing if you made a thread about a game I don't like, the fact that it's Skyrim has nothing to do with it.

You know I almost stay exclusively in the R&P section and as such I'm no stranger to seeing people argue with each other, but seriously?

Just relax and be the goat. There are plenty of things to argue over, but this isn't one of them.


OP:Well lets hope that the next DLC is better than this. :/

We are talking about the same series that gave us the ultimate DLC in Horse Armour here aren't we?

Where exactly is the surprise?

Good point.

 

[AlotFirst]

I bought the DLC and I don't regret it. If you want to whine about overpriced DLC Mass Effect 2 may be a better choice.

 

[ErinRedbird]

I got the DLC almost as soon as it was released and don't regret it. I like the story and LOVE the crossbows.

 

[woodaba]

Dawnguard has about as much content in it as one of Fallout 3's downloadable content pieces.

Alright dude, maybe it's just me but that's where you lost me. As I remember each new piece of DLC for Fallout 3, with the exception of Operation Anchorage which sucked, either added a metric fuckton of content to the base game like new loot, characters, locales, questlines, etc. I mean hell, Broken Steel even brought a couple of new endings! Some even took place in locations completely separated from the Capital Wasteland and then added a metric fuckton of content. That's when your argument kinda falls apart for me but I don't know maybe that's just my inner Bethesda Fanboy talking... No offence though.

When you put it that way... Dawnguard has LESS content than Fallout 3's dlcs. For double the price!

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I dunno - Dawnguard seems fine, my main gripe is that the Vampire Lord form controls like shit. It's basically a clunkier, micromanagement-based take on the Werewolf form, and for someone who only shifts in third person to ogle his character every once in a while, being forced to play in that perspective for any serious length of time is a bit jarring.

Otherwise? No problems with it. I'd precise that the crossbow is utterly worthless if and only if you haven't put some points into Archery. Get the first four or five perks - especially Eagle Eye and Steady Hands - and then it becomes manageable. Prior to that, it's just a slower, more tedious take on a bow. It's also a nice ranged alternative for someone who's not completely concerned with maintaining a stealthy approach. The solid "K-THUNK!" of bolts being fired seems to seriously undermine my admittedly low Sneak stat.

 

[Laurents van Cauwenberghe]

seriously am I the only one who does not care about skyrim anymore?
you can say what you want about the exploration but you have to agree after a while it becomes very repetitive (and i'm not even talking about dungeons because i got sick of them after my fifth dungeon). the combat was very poor , and boring (i could fight my way trough without needing healing).
also , the quests in the game were just awful. The only interesting quests were the guild quests and some parts of the main quest, there was no use in doing any of the side quests because they were always the same.
and also (and this applies to all bethesda games) it was just to buggy to actually play.
if i buy a game at full retail price i am entitled to a WORKING game.
however what i got was purple textures and crashes.
and the counter argument of: "download mods to fix it" or "wait for bug fixes" do not hold water for me.
if i buy a game at full retail price i am entitled to a game that i can play right now , not in a few weeks.
as for dawnguard, i would've bought it if it had new , interesting locations or a decent story.
apparently i am getting neither

 

[J Tyran]

It's that you don't have the right to tell people what they can or cannot buy with their money.

The OP did not tell anyone what they can or cannot buy, all the OP did was offer an opinion about Dawn Guards value for money.

 

[Zagzag]

I don't know...I just never found a use for the Crossbow. Maybe it gets better if you do those really repetitive quests for the woman in Fort Dawnguard, but I burned out on those after I got the fire bolts. "What's that? You want me to go get an identical schematic from an Identical dungeon? For the 4th time in a row? Fuck off."

What's interesting is that that's what I liked about it, having loads of radiant quests to do that felt more interesting because you get rewards you will definitely want assuming you like crossbows. Sure, they are all fetch quests, but Skyrim fetch quests are more like go-to-this-awesome-dungeon-you've-not-ben-to-yet-and-clear-it quests, which is exactly what I'd be doing anyway.

I also don't care about the choice not meaning much. Bethesda have never been good at Bioware style meaningful plot changing choices mainly done via diologue. The choices you make in Bethesda games are what quests you choose to do, and which groups of people you murder. I think choosing whether to help the townspeople with their problems, or murder them all is a much more sophisticated choice, if the game doesn't give you two options and have you pick one, completely outside of normal gameplay. I'd rather have the option to do either, but never have generic NPC 145 walk up to me and say "Do you want to help people or become a sociopathic killer" right at the start of the game.

And as for the extra places being inserted into the existing world, I really liked the new dungeons and the

Spoiler: new location

soul cairn

was possibly the most fun I've ever had in the game.

Spoiler

My necromancer loved soul trapping all the skeletons and learning to summon true undead, and my righteous crusader of crossbow based awesome loved putting down the evil scourge.

This was made all the more fun by not having to lock myself into one path beforehand.

 

[giggetygooo]

I'll do as I damn well please with my money.

I don't get why people make these kinds of threads, you may think you're trying to help people, but you just come across as annoying telling people not to buy something.

I'll do as I damn well please with my threads.

I don't get why people make these kinds of replies, you may think you're acting smart, but you just come across as a raging fanboy getting angry when people express their opinions


BURN! giggle

 

[Kiju]

I'm not disagreeing, but I would like to point this out:

Fallout 3 was made by the same people as Skyrim. Bethesda.

So I believe that, in short, it can sum up to this: No duh? Of course they're going to have similar "expansions", considering that they were made by the same company. Me, I don't really have any interest in Dawnguard except for two things:

1) I get to kill more vampires. I hate vampires.

2) I get a crossbow. I love crossbows.

Other than that, yeah...no interest. I'll just settle for my Steam Workshop files that I find that add on more dungeons.

 

[mammothbroncho]

I thought Dawnguard was well worth the twenty dollars. It wasnt like they were making me pay for 20 dollars for 1 hour of gameplay (it was more like 6 hours) the crossbows are awesome and the characters are interesting. also I have this

EDIT: the picture thingy doesnt work so just look up arvak on google images (look for the skeleton horse on fire0