Do you still watch Extra Credits?

[NeoShinGundam]

Why wouldn't I? I go to Penny Arcade every Wednesday anyway.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I enjoyed it when it was here, but... frankly I don't give a fuck who was in the right or wrong in that whole controversy. Fact is when I was banned from a non-gaming forum I had been active member of for years, I kinda moved in and set up shop here. I like escapist. I like the rules of escapist forum, were we can essentially talk about anything and it's exceptionally hard to break the rules here.

its silly I know but I have a degree of brand loyalty here. So fuck Extra Credits.

 

[ThePants]

I do. I know it's Wednesdays, which I'd like to be Thursdays, because Zero Punctuation is on Wednesdays, and my week is filled with Jimquisition TBP, Escape to the Movies, and ZP and EC, but nothing for Thursday.

But I still watch it because it's awesome and important, as ever!

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

You... could frequent more than one website? On top of PA they also have their own website, and they upload their new episodes onto Youtube with one or two weeks delay compared to the Blip.TV upload for PA/their own site.

I still enjoy their show and find it mostly insightful (except this week's episode, as a European most of the stuff said didn't apply to me, but hey, perhaps for another episode). So yes, I still look forward to Wednesdays so I can enjoy the next episode.

 

[applesandoranges]

edit

 

[ColdBlooded]

If the topic interests me, yes. like that recent more mature games episode

 

[flaviok79]

Every week. Some episodes are better than others, but that is true about any show.

 

[gyroscopeboy]

And I can't watch their show anymore without feeling that it was tainted by the whole very immature drama they had over the internet.

This.
Also, i come to the Escapist for ALL my gaming news...I can't be assed trawling more than one site.

 

[Kal-Adam]

Yeah, I still do on a weekly basis, it was one of the only reasons I was on te escapist anyways.

 

[=y]

EDIT: Why is my poll constantly dissappearing?

OT: I watched exactly two episodes after they left the site and since then I have just dropped it. I watched it because it was here, not because I enjoyed every episode. In the end I delegated my time to the other webshows I watch regularly.

 

[natster43]

I still watch there stuff. I enjoy it for the intellectual stuff, even if they sometimes get a bit preachy.

 

[thisbymaster]

I follow them all the time, it is a nice break from every person talking about video games being completely crazy. I like serious talk about serious issues. If you are a child and can't function without the person going "Squirrel" every 30 seconds then maybe you need to stop eating paint chips.

 

[malestrithe]

Not really. I never was into it when it was on this site.

I only watched it when my brother watched only to counter what they say. For a long time, his argument was also their argument.

 

[Don Savik]

I don't mind high-brow stuff every once in a while, but it goes....unnecessarily high brow sometimes. Bringing up irrelevant issues that are clearly only a matter of style preference (jrpgs and wrpgs) and talking about it like its a social rights movement. I don't watch it because I get a feeling of "ok, yes, we GET IT" and it really irks me. Like a child being talked down to because you screwed up, yet the parent doesn't really have a lesson to teach, just a slap on the wrist. I'm not a jerk on the internet, I don't troll, and I don't irrationally stereotype.....so what else am I going to do to help gaming exactly? Most of these game issues stem from developers and publishers.

Its a good instructional series if you are an idiot who doesn't "get" gaming as a hobby or are some greedy gaming publisher, but if you have half a brain......it seems like agreement for the sake of agreement. Aka...circle jerking, which The Escapist is all too familiar with.

Not saying its bad, I'm just....above the messages, as I already get them.

 

[Vuavu]

Hey I know I'm slow on the uptake, but what exactly was this 'fiasco' that everyone keeps alluding to? I went on vacation and came back and couldn't find EC on the Escapist anymore; it confused me. Someone explain, I thought everyone seemed to like the show while it was on :/

OP: I sometimes watch them still on their own site. I usually really appreciate the stuff they have to say. I was kind of uncomfortable with James's game addiction monologue though, strange way to put a point across I guess.

 

[templar1138a]

I love Extra Credits. When the aforementioned fiasco happened, I thought it was gone forever. Then I discovered via one of these threads that it still existed on Penny Arcade.

I like watching it because it's a very informative and well-written show. They sometimes get too optimistic in my view, but their arguments are nonetheless well-constructed.

 

[Semudara]

Yup, I watch it occasionally. In fact, it's gotten me to check the Penny Arcade website on a semi-regular basis, which has in turn introduced me to a few other entertaining series.

It usually at least makes for a pretty fun watch, and sometimes I even learn some useful stuff. Not a bad series, though I do wish it had a little more... I dunno... impact.

Captcha: Uncharted Island. I like these new 'interesting' captchas we're getting.

 

[Mikodite]

I still find it interesting, so I keep watching.

No, I remember watching their programming episode after it was linked on a game development forum and just finding it awful and poorly researched.

Poorly researched? Just curious, since I have very little education on a lot of their topics - what have they been wrong about?

From what I remember of the episode they recommended using Flash to get started, which is a dying technology. It's a long time ago that I saw it, but from what I remember I got annoyed as it was a very content-free episode with information anyone could find from google, and they clearly skirted round the actual issue of how a game works internally. I suppose as none of them are actually developers that's ok, but I expected a bit better.

Also, the intro song really annoys me now, along with the voice.

You can tell that to sites like Kongregate and Newgrounds... which are still up last I checked. The appeal of using Flash is simply how easy it is to use, and it is a proven technology for these things. The only major pratfall is that it is propitiatory though. It is worth pointing out that they dealt with Stack Exchange when doing the episode, so if the experts they spoke to didn't know what they were talking about, not being experts themselves there isn't anything they can do.

Course, a programmer could make a game in any technology they want. I'm currently making a game with nothing but DHTML. You don't need a special toolkit for that, and the user doesn't need to download a plugin: they just need an up to date web browser. Learning HTML, CSS, PHP and javascript isn't that hard either (well, compared to like C++). Course, the only problem is in controlling redraw and in playing sound (I think the sound tag is disabled in Firefox).

Now were off topic.

To return to topic... why is everyone comparing Extra Creditz to The Jimquisition? That's like comparing apples to oranges. They speak on different topics from different vantage points on different sides of the industry. The Jimquisition was never meant to replace Extra Creditz, and I even remember an Extra Consideration article with both Jim Sterling and James Portnow, back when we were all innocent and never had to watch the money-grab fest from both parties involved.

Ok, so you prefer an apple to an orange or vice versa. Wee! Not an interesting discussion. Can we compare Granny Smiths to Macintoshes?

I watch both by the way. I think Jim is the one that thinks we are stupid though ("Diablo III DRM is bullshit!" Oh no really?). I never really felt like the EC crew talked down to me, and they do admit a lot of what they speak of we have no control over unless we are devs or pubs ourselves, and seeing as I want to be a dev (ahem, DHTML game) I find the information useful. I think both have their value though. Afterall, I like to eat apples and oranges!

 

[ResonanceSD]

Yup, they're still awesome.

A different approach to Jim Sterling but covering the same issues? Win!

We've had this thread a fair number of times now.

So?

 

[Lalo Lomeli]

Thanks for this thread I'm catching up to the lost episodes.

I love seeing things in other perspective, and to take videogames like something serious with real implications, even when there's things that I disagree it helps to have a bigger picture of gaming as a whole.