DOAX3 officially not being localized for the west

[Andy Shandy]

Fair play to Play-Asia. Appeal to those perpetually outraged and make money off them, who think they're giving the middle finger to the all-conquering boogeymen that are SJWs.

Might even sell as much as DOAX2 did.

[sub]Which I think might be the actual reason TK didn't bother bringing it westward. Nobody gave a monkey's shite about DOAX3 before this whole hoohah[/sub]

 

[lionsprey]

They are making an English-subtitles version for Asia and ps4/vita are Region Free so you can just import and get your beach on.

http://www.play-asia.com/dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-fortune-multi-language/13/709dv7

Sounds to me like a company deciding that the US market for the game is too small to make the localization profitable.

But there's like 300 million people in the USA, compared to just 130 million or so in Japan. And then there's the other English speaking countries, along with a bunch of countries in Europe like Sweden that don't officially speak English but everyone learns it anyway. And it's a lot cheaper to localize than it would have been to make the original game.

Don't forget that Sweden is the one country in the entire planet which outright banned a dead or alive game in the past (one for 3DS I believe) so it's not the best of examples.


This game has already partially-done localization so the extra money would most definitely be worth it since the sales in the west would even it out and then give extra too. This being so, fear of backlash is about the only logical explanation left, since they're already making the English subs for the Asian version and most people would be fine with JP-only voices anyhow.

be fair the game was banned in norway and denmark as well because it had elements that made it illegal under child-pornography laws.



I kinda figured it was only a matter of time before this happened. and i have to sneaking suspicion this is going to get worse before it gets better.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Fair play to Play-Asia. Appeal to those perpetually outraged and make money off them, who think they're giving the middle finger to the all-conquering boogeymen that are SJWs.

Might even sell as much as DOAX2 did.

[sub]Which I think might be the actual reason TK didn't bother bringing it westward. Nobody gave a monkey's shite about DOAX3 before this whole hoohah[/sub]

Holy balls, you weren't kidding. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/481/dead-or-alive-xtreme-2/

250,000 copies? Total world-wide? I mean, sure, it sold over twice as well here as in Japan, but that's still only 140,000. Drumming up outrage and relying on imports would be cheaper and probably not hurt their sales at that point.

 

[Maximum Bert]

Bit sad that things have escalated to such a stage where a bit of T and A can cause such an outburst. I dont know if the reason they have given is the true reason or not if I would to hazard a guess it would likely be a part of rather than all of the story.

As for myself I played the first one and kinda enjoyed the volleyball but did not feel the need to get the second. I may get this one since its been so long and the first one was kinda relaxing and sometimes I just want to relax with a game and enjoy some fanservice.

I must admit although this outrage is unlikely to raise the profile of DOAX (which is probably one of their least known franchises) outside of those who follow gaming news it will raise it quite a lot inside that circle, so whether this was intended initially to do so or not they have kinda come off good there.

DOA5 is fantastic and a much needed rejuvenation of the franchise after 4 which felt pretty awful tbh so I have hope they can do the same here unfortunately they did not do the same for Ninja Gaiden which has slipped with every one since the first (reboot) although Razors Edge on WiiU is not as bad as I was expecting probably on the level of Ninja Gaiden sigma 2 at least so far. Apparently NG3 (vanilla) was awful but I have never played it.

 

[stormtrooper9091]

I think we may witness the implementation of the term "SJW" as an actual internet weapon.

1. either the outrage was real and they stepped back (unlikely)
2. they kind of know the game would be a dud so they're using all kinds of smokes and mirrors to generate buzz around it

 

[Redd the Sock]

The irony is getting good. For years it's been articles, blogs, forum posts etc all about the state of women in gaming and trying to change it, and as soon as someone comes up and says "okay we won't release the game that offends you so much because of all the griping you do" everyone wants to deny they had an impact, or even could. What, was the last few years of cultural commentary just everyone in love with the sound of their own voices?

 

[BloatedGuppy]

The irony is getting good. For years it's been articles, blogs, forum posts etc all about the state of women in gaming and trying to change it, and as soon as someone comes up and says "okay we won't release the game that offends you so much because of all the griping you do" everyone wants to deny they had an impact, or even could. What, was the last few years of cultural commentary just everyone in love with the sound of their own voices?

Yes, Red. "Everyone" is saying that. Probably the same people who wrote those articles too, for good measure. "People" sure are hypocrites. Har har! Crazy people. Always up to something.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

This is quite a shocking response to see even PlayAsia attempting to capitalize on the desperation anf anger of gamers overseas. I would be surprised if KT demands they pull the plug on this since this isnt to them proper marketing

 

[crimson5pheonix]

This is quite a shocking response to see even PlayAsia attempting to capitalize on the desperation anf anger of gamers overseas. I would be surprised if KT demands they pull the plug on this since this isnt to them proper marketing

So you apparently want. I suppose Tecmo might not let PA distribute, or they could let PA rile up the people Tecmo probably doesn't like and make money off of it.

 

[EternallyBored]

Yeah, the point I was making is that even tough fans kept asking for Yakuza games to come to the West, Sega said "lolnope".
Japanese, I repeat, seem to have a mentality in which sometimes they make games for their country alone, and when they perceive a game is "too Japanese", they don't want to bring it outside their country.
I think this is the same case with DOAX3. But really, I doubt it's a game with much dialogue anyway, so I don't see the problem.... those who really want it can simply import it.

But the reason Yakuza isn't being localised is because the games sell incredibly poorly, to the point where it doesn't even cover localisation (and Yakuza is really expensive to localise, due to the amount of text, licensing fees and the high quality localisation) and a physical release. It doesn't have anything to do with it being too japanase and Sega's actions aren't unjustified, nor are they intended to mock the western fanbase of the franchise (all 12 of them). Yakuza is not a good example to make your point with. They've tried 5 times before they've given up on the franchise, and only Y3 sold better than godawful.

(Hell, the only reason we are even getting Yakuza 5 is because Third Party Productions, an entity that exists solely to make loss leaders that fans want, is helping out Sega. That game is going to be the worst selling Yakuza game ever, it's on the PS3 in 2015 for Christ's sake.)

Well it is similar in that DOAX2 sold like shit in the west, even if it sold more than Japan, localization and sales probably would have meant profits would be marginal at best, or at least make the margins unattractive compared to a solely local release, so possibly still not worth it.

Or at least not worth it in physical format, I have no idea what the cost for a digital only release on PS+ would be, I'd imagine there's still localization and licensing that needs to be done. This is Tecmo Koei though, so I have no idea how much salt I should be taking their statements with, Itagaki is a massive drama queen, and threw out all kinds of wild accusations as reasons for his mediocre Devil's Third game failing.

 

[Batou667]

Even if they did refuse to port the game because they were afraid of how people would view it, wouldn't that be an example of the free market at work?

Well, yeah, technically. In the same sense that a lynch mob is technically democracy at work.

 

[RandV80]

While I don't necessarily agree with it I can understand the 'SJW' disdain for the DOA fighting game series, but isn't DOAX basically softcore porn? You'd think this is a game for the moral "won't somebody please think of the children!" police to tackle, not SJW's.

 

[Kinokohatake]

Sounds to me like a company deciding that the US market for the game is too small to make the localization profitable. Then someone makes a BS excuse so the fans are upset at someone else.

Hmmm... What evidence do you have of this?

So someone blames feminist for a game not coming out with no evidence and you believe it. Someone points out that that idea seems weak and you demand evidence.

OT: Meh. Those games never seemed to be any more than masturbation fodder. We will no longer have these deep engaging games to keep us entertained.

 

[Something Amyss]

Given the sales of the last game, I'm betting more people are outraged this isn't being ported than would actually buy it.

Now let's be fair: XBV2 sold better in the US than in Japan.

I think that probably has more to do with it being an Xbox 360 exclusive, but it should be noted. Especially because it sold like ass in the US. A case of "better" not equalling "good".

That's the thing, though. It sold like ass. It's likely not going to be a huge selling point for porting it over here. And it still goes with the whole outrage angle.

I'm certain it's the SJWs though. How cold I possibly get this multi-language menued, region free game now?

Clearly, you can't, as the SJWs have destroyed all copies and killed the creators. First the Super Soldier Serum, now this!

 

[Tohuvabohu]

So someone blames feminist for a game not coming out with no evidence and you believe it. Someone points out that that idea seems weak and you demand evidence.

Right... Where did I ever say I believed that Feminists were to blame?

That's a rhetorical question, btw. I never said such a thing within this whole thread. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Anyway, a lot of attention has been turned towards the case and there seems to be quite a bit of interest now in localizing the game after all. However, I don't believe the devs themselves have said anything about it yet. At the very least, this situation is becoming pretty interesting.

 

[Supernova1138]

While I don't necessarily agree with it I can understand the 'SJW' disdain for the DOA fighting game series, but isn't DOAX basically softcore porn? You'd think this is a game for the moral "won't somebody please think of the children!" police to tackle, not SJW's.

The two are effectively one and the same at this point, with the only difference between the two being the underlying motivation for demanding censorship. The right wing moral guardian crowd want to protect children from violent and sexual imagery that they think will turn them into horrible sinners. The left wing moral guardian crowd aka the 'SJW' think games will make people sexist and/or racist and thus games need to be censored to protect women and minorities. It's the same end result either way, but the latter gets a lot more support these days, as accusing someone of being a bigot is far more effective at browbeating someone into submission these days compared to calling someone a sinner or Satan worshipper and saying they will burn for eternity in the lake of fire.

 

[Paragon Fury]

While I don't necessarily agree with it I can understand the 'SJW' disdain for the DOA fighting game series, but isn't DOAX basically softcore porn? You'd think this is a game for the moral "won't somebody please think of the children!" police to tackle, not SJW's.

They're the same group now.

The left has become the right, but they just use different justifications now. The right also still likes to use more heavy-handed methods like government sponsored censorship, while the left prefers subtler methods, like social media and the threat of lawsuits/bad PR to make people self-censor.

 

[RandV80]

While I don't necessarily agree with it I can understand the 'SJW' disdain for the DOA fighting game series, but isn't DOAX basically softcore porn? You'd think this is a game for the moral "won't somebody please think of the children!" police to tackle, not SJW's.

They're the same group now.

The left has become the right, but they just use different justifications now. The right also still likes to use more heavy-handed methods like government sponsored censorship, while the left prefers subtler methods, like social media and the threat of lawsuits/bad PR to make people self-censor.

So do the SJW's protest against porn as well? If this was a live action video made by Vivid or some other porn company the right-wing moral police have always been against it of course, but the SJW's jumping on that bandwagon would be news to me.

 

[Erttheking]

While I don't necessarily agree with it I can understand the 'SJW' disdain for the DOA fighting game series, but isn't DOAX basically softcore porn? You'd think this is a game for the moral "won't somebody please think of the children!" police to tackle, not SJW's.

They're the same group now.

The left has become the right, but they just use different justifications now. The right also still likes to use more heavy-handed methods like government sponsored censorship, while the left prefers subtler methods, like social media and the threat of lawsuits/bad PR to make people self-censor.

So do the SJW's protest against porn as well? If this was a live action video made by Vivid or some other porn company the right-wing moral police have always been against it of course, but the SJW's jumping on that bandwagon would be news to me.

I think it's because the "SJWs" say there are too many big breasted women in fiction, plenty of people made the leap that all "SJWs" are anti-sex puritans. I must be a massive contradiction to that mindset considering that big ol folder I got.

 

[mysecondlife]

Publishers refusing chance for profit due to fear of backlash? I feel like I am living in a backwards universe here.

When either the entire universe or your past beliefs seem backwards, it is rational to assume that you were wrong in having those beliefs.

Likely. It IS different game than most. [sub][sub]Seriously, wtf would I know anything about Japanese beach volleyball games?[/sub][/sub]