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mikecoulter

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I think cheat codes should be included in games as long as it doesn't effect the balance of the game too much. Or if they allow for hilarious antics, such as in GTA IV.
 

Shoggoth2588

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mrhateful said:
Cheat codes was nice back when you played multi player games in single player games, like age of empires. However now a days all the games you would use cheat codes on has gone interwebs multiplayer and thus cheat codes are no longer needed. Also for me there is no longer any reason to use cheat codes in single player games I do play since they are all RPG and you're pretty pathetic if you cheat in an RPG just saying, also as you get older you realize cheat codes are wasting your time since your cheating yourself out of the game.
I don't remember any RPG that had cheat codes (I guess the Game-Genie and Game Shark could have given you cheats but no input-cheats)

I know what you mean though. I loved popping in Starcraft on Single Player and nuking the entire map. Fun times even if it did waste some time but then isn't that one of the points of gaming? I felt more accomplished nuking the map in Starcraft than I feel building an Obsidian tower in Minecraft.

As for cheating in multiplayer, I don't see the fun in that. I like cheating in SP where you can just run through each room and hall and laugh as the enemies try in vain to kill you.
 

awmperry

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Shoggoth2588 said:
I don't remember any RPG that had cheat codes (I guess the Game-Genie and Game Shark could have given you cheats but no input-cheats)
On PC there are lots - KOTOR 1 & 2, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Vampire, etc... All of them let you drop down the console and bump up your stats a bit. (Just like in real life, where you add +10 DEX while the GM's not looking...)
 

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Not really. Cheating just takes all the fun and challenge out of a game.
BORING! I dont know who you're trying to impress by saying that but stop it ok..

How is NOT fun blasting your way with unlimited ammo and health through a shitty story line or stage that has frustrated you for 7 months?
Finally seeing the asshole enemies that have made your life hell the entire game just get torn to peices by your godly powers!
Or just having unlimited money to by hundreds of troops or tanks in RTS's
Good times!
 

gigastar

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Wondermint13 said:
gigastar said:
Not really. Cheating just takes all the fun and challenge out of a game.
BORING! I dont know who you're trying to impress by saying that but stop it ok..

How is NOT fun blasting your way with unlimited ammo and health through a shitty story line or stage that has frustrated you for 7 months?
Finally seeing the asshole enemies that have made your life hell the entire game just get torn to peices by your godly powers!
Or just having unlimited money to by hundreds of troops or tanks in RTS's
Good times!
Its not. If a game is hard enough to stall you for half a year then youre obviously playing the wrong genre.
It doesnt affect me, I can actually figure out how to beat asshole enemies.
And I actually know how to play RTS games. RTS stands for Real Time Strategy not Un-Restricted Tank Swarmer.

Cheating in a game is equivalent to admitting defeat. Its like going 'I dont have the cognitive skills to learn any of this so im going to use hax to beat it'.

With your attitude it will shock you to hear that the real fun in a game is in overcoming a challenge, not in fucking about with the gameplay mechanics until you beat it.
 

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G-d yes. Anybody remember the cheats from Goldeneye? I loved DK mode and paintball mode. Why can't we have cheats such as these for local splitscreen and when they are activated, they are activated for everyone?
 

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awmperry said:
Shoggoth2588 said:
I don't remember any RPG that had cheat codes (I guess the Game-Genie and Game Shark could have given you cheats but no input-cheats)
On PC there are lots - KOTOR 1 & 2, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Vampire, etc... All of them let you drop down the console and bump up your stats a bit. (Just like in real life, where you add +10 DEX while the GM's not looking...)
I really need to get back into PC gaming. Mods, Cheats, Emulators...sounds like it'd be pretty sweet for me
 

DesiPrinceX09

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Cheats take the fun and challenge out of a game, and things like big head mode are just pointless and look dumb. I don't mean to sound elitist with my statement here but seriously everytime I played a game with cheats enabled I no longer enjoyed it and I don't like that; but that's just me.
 

awmperry

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gigastar said:
And I actually know how to play RTS games. RTS stands for Real Time Strategy not Un-Restricted Tank Swarmer.
Nevertheless, it can be fun to build a hundred tanks and just run over any opposition.

gigastar said:
Cheating in a game is equivalent to admitting defeat. Its like going 'I dont have the cognitive skills to learn any of this so im going to use hax to beat it'.
Closer, in some cases, would be "I enjoy gameplay but not tedious padding. I shall use cheats to minimise the time spent on it so I can better enjoy the parts of the game that interest me."

gigastar said:
With your attitude it will shock you to hear that the real fun in a game is in overcoming a challenge, not in fucking about with the gameplay mechanics until you beat it.
The sheer arrogance of this statement is breathtaking. FOR YOU the "real fun" is the challenge. For others, it might be mucking about and being silly. Or following the story with minimal intrusions of pointless spider-slaughter. Or any number of other things.

All you can really say without having to possess simply astronomical levels of arrogance is "the real fun is whatever the person playing it finds fun".

Playing games is not, for most of us, a job. It's not something we get paid to do "properly". Most of us aren't in competition with other people, at least not in single-player games. We play games for fun, and if cheats make it more fun for us, then bring on the cheats.
 

NotAPie

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Yeah of course, you know how dissapointed I was when I found out there was no flying car cheat in Grand Theft Auto 4?
 

Souplex

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Almost every game that generation had a big head mode...
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-Dragmire-

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remember game genie? The best part about it was getting infinite lives(not health) in a game that doesn't benefit from a life system. We've long since gone beyond platformers that required quarters.
 

gigastar

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awmperry said:
The sheer arrogance of this statement is breathtaking. For you, the "real fun" is the challenge. For others, it might be mucking about and being silly. Or following the story with minimal intrusions of pointless spider-slaughter. Or any number of other things.

All you can really say without having to possess simply astronomical levels of arrogance is "the real fun is whatever the person playing it finds fun".

Playing games is not, for most of us, a job. It's not something we get paid to do "properly". Most of us aren't in competition with other people, at least not in single-player games. We play games for fun, and if cheats make it more fun for us, then bring on the cheats.
I'm less intrested in the argument now, partially because its been a week, partially because its obvious none of us are going to budge on our positions.

Im more interested in why you went out of your way to commit necromancy on a thread that had been laid to rest a week before. If you really wanted the keep the flames burning you could have switched to PM's.
 

awmperry

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Simply because an arrogant, sweeping generalisation like yours, with that "my way is the only correct way to enjoy games", needed to be refuted. And it wasn't out of my way - and I don't want any flames burning, just a reasoned discussion.

Incidentally, my position doesn't need budging. Mine, for the record, is "enjoy games in whatever way gives you, the person playing them, the most enjoyment". I'm not sure how you can find anything to disagree with in that.

(EDIT: Also, surely five days can't count as a necropost? This is a forum, not IRC, and not everyone has the time to check the forums every day.)
 

windlenot

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I know I certainly enjoyed em. For me, they made the game stupid-fun. Well, except for the ones to make hard games less impossible. But now with games being less difficult, the need becomes less important, except for the ones just to have fun... I guess I don't really know.
 

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NorthernTrooper said:
The game that lost the most out of taking out any good cheat codes was GTA. Vice City and San Andreas had the most entertaining cheats out of them ALL, and I could literally play for hours. GTA 4 was an enormous disappointment in that regard.

About San Andreas, I found that if you cheated too much it would glitch your game (thanks a lot Rock Star, fucking ass holes)
 

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gigastar said:
Not really. Cheating just takes all the fun and challenge out of a game.

Its like in a certain space sim i play on and off. I can download a cheat mod and have whatever i want right away but that just takes all the challenge and satisfaction out of it.

Comparing cheating and not cheating is kind of like comparing Garrys Mod and Minecraft as sandbox games.
Then one does not simply enter a cheat code...

And yeah, I miss them. I used to love looking cheat websites to see if the game I had rented had any cheats. I never always used them, but often I did in GTA. Using the flying car cheat to sneak across the border to lands you have not unlocked yet? then using the no police cheat? Pure awesomeness.
 

joebthegreat

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The best cheats weren't so you could win easier, they were so you could do WHATEVER CRAZY THING COMES TO YOUR MIND!!!

I can walk through walls with a bazooka with infinite ammo and people ragdoll all the way across the room at the drop of a hat? And their heads are huge? And they react really stupidly because they have no idea where I am?

It's party time.
 

Spencer Petersen

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This is why I will always love Bethesda and Blizzard games, as they have cheat codes and console commands built in for easy access.