Does Final Fantasy XIV have a shot against World of Warcraft?

Galaxialconda

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So its on PC too? Crap, seems less likely this is going to be subscription free now.

I was really wanting to get this aswell. But I dont think a game with subscription fees is worth it.

As for the Wow thing, I doubt it. Maybe for the initial release, but I can see it soon quiteing down to just another MMO
 

Fenixhart

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Galaxialconda said:
So its on PC too? Crap, seems less likely this is going to be subscription free now.

I was really wanting to get this aswell. But I dont think a game with subscription fees is worth it.

As for the Wow thing, I doubt it. Maybe for the initial release, but I can see it soon quiteing down to just another MMO
There is no such thing as a marketed Free MMO. Such things do not exist due to their very nature.

And before anyone mentions Guild Wars, Guild wars is not an MMO as it lacks the "Massivley" aspect. It's no more an MMO than Diablo's Battlenet.
 

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Xvito said:
NOTE TO ALL: Final Fantasy XIV IS A PS3 EXCLUSIVE.

It doesn't stand a chance to reach WoW-fame, reason... Look up.
no its a ps3 and windows game. much like ff XI was ps2 and windows.
 

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VII and VIII were brill however I think X was really good and XIII looks rubbish and so does XVI I think they should stop while there ahead.

(p.s. is it ture there making a remake of Final Fantasy VII beacuse even though I will be in the front of the queue buying it I dont think it will be as good as the orignal)
 

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King_Pickles said:
VII and VIII were brill however I think X was really good and XIII looks rubbish and so does XVI I think they should stop while there ahead.

(p.s. is it ture there making a remake of Final Fantasy VII beacuse even though I will be in the front of the queue buying it I dont think it will be as good as the orignal)
No, it's just a port. Unless they improve the horrid tumourous polygons, I think they're wasting their time to be honest.
 

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TBQH, I'm really not optimistic about FF14. I had a friend who was deep into FF11, and the horror stories he told me once he got out of it (for WoW, actually - relatively, much less a soul-stealer) made me shudder.

I've played it for a very short while, and everything I've seen, experienced, and heard just... makes me think it's not a very well designed game.
 

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Stevedave00 said:
You don't own an Xbox360 do you? Pretty much everything you said about it is wrong.
Me not owning an xbox has nothing to do with the factuality of my statement. XBL charges a subscription fee, playstation network doesn't. If square is planning on charging their own subscription fee for their MMO then are xbox users going to have to pay an xbox live subscription fee and a FFIV subscription fee? Or say square doesn't charge a subscription fee, then 360 is going to be the only system which charges a subscription fee to play their game. It's a layer of red tape and its most likely one of the largest hurdles they're trying to negotiate with microsoft. Speculation of course, but it's just logic.
 

HyenaThePirate

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Not really gonna happen any time soon.
WoW has figured out the perfect formula to tap into that previously untouched goldmine of anti-social, lazy people who dont know a damn thing about computers but every college kid practically owns a dell laptop it seems. They didnt go for flashing, intense graphics.. they went for ok visuals that look inviting and pleasing and best of all, will run on a PC that was top of the line for a month or two in 2001 and will work fine for people who still run windows 95.
Thats the thing... they made WoW for MMO geeks in the beginning.. then have consistently ratcheted it down over time to appeal to a literal mass market of bored human beings who wanted to justify their impulse purchases of low cost Dell computers and laptops. Then the economy hit a slump... people needed a way to socialize without wasting gas, spending money, or taking showers. Enter, WoW. With it's T for teen rating and bright colorful characters as opposed to the usual doom and gloom of the more serious sword and sorcery fare, it brought families into play.. it was a game 10 year old little timmy could play with his 9 year old sister and his 45 year old mom on friday nights while dad went raiding with the guys from Work. The same reason the Wii for all it's less than exciting game titles keeps selling like gangbusters. It's the appeal to people who like a little entertainment but dont like the idea of grinding through fantastically realistic piles of ogre guts. WoW is the chutes and ladders of the modern age, Nintendo is the Milton-Bradley.

Until someone else comes along with a game as polished as any major MMO on the market, but with the amount of accessibility of a Disney Characters on Ice show, WoW is going to dominate the market. Games like Age of Conan were cool, but seriously how many casual people had a PC capable of really playing it without the chop and lag? Not many. And it was NOT built for kids.

There will be no WoW killer until Disney creates Kingdom Hearts Online with Square Enix.
 

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No. /thread

But seriously no, it just won't happen. Blizzard have hit the magical MMO formula that no one can top, and no one wants to stop WoW just to restart on a new game at level 1 with no guild, no gear and have to work all the way back to end game just to *try* a new game, because it might turn out crap.
 

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Sorry but WoW has 11 million people or something like that. Taking that down is like trying on the Death Star with a stick and some yogurt. Its not going to happen...
I'm sure that the death star has some ridiculous weak point where you could blow it all up by putting a yogurt covered stick somewhere.

OT the asian market will most likely go with FF XIV so at the very least we could see a decline in gold farmers on WOW. It's not racist to say that gold farmers are asian cause they mostly are.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
TBQH, I'm really not optimistic about FF14. I had a friend who was deep into FF11, and the horror stories he told me once he got out of it (for WoW, actually - relatively, much less a soul-stealer) made me shudder.
I started out playing Final Fantasy XI.

Then I started playing WoW, and took a break from FFXI.

Then I took a break from WoW.

Then I started playing WoW again, to "drown my sorrows" after a bad break-up, and ended up getting into it a little bit too much. I was unemployed at the time.

When I got a new job, I stopped playing WoW due to time issues. When I finally tried again after a couple of months, I realized that the game bored me now, and quit.

I'm back to playing Final Fantasy XI. I usually play it in bursts, where I'll play every day for a week or two, and then take another week or so off while I do other things. Works for me. Love the world, love the job system, and love the people.

So...

...I might move on to Final Fantasy XIV when I feel I've done all I want to in FFXI.
 

JediMB

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cabooze said:
OT the asian market will most likely go with FF XIV so at the very least we could see a decline in gold farmers on WOW. It's not racist to say that gold farmers are asian cause they mostly are.
Chinese Gil Farmers!

Nihao!

Brogame!

*coughs and walks away*
 

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Julius M said:
GBM said:
Hey do you have a citation for the bit about the skinner-box? Academic preferably, but whatever you've got.
You mean for the developers researching what makes people play more or the part about the mechanics of wow being sort of like a skinner box?

I'll try to find some, I don't know where exactly I got that quote from anymore. (At least where it is located specifically.) I thought it was known that Wow-developers researched these things for the game.
The part about the developers specifically crafting it to be addictive
 

Eykal

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To quote Yahtzee, Short answer: No.
Long Answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


But seriously, it won't, I mean, it may not fail as hard as AoC did, with so many people leaving to play it...and then the majority of them coming back because it was shit.