Doesn't it fell like PC gamers are getting the shaft?

[Wintermoot]

yeah SR2 got a TERRIBLE PC port I recently played SR3 at a friends house (PC version) and it played great on the PC! for some reason SR2 never expected a person to have more then one monitor and to play it with a 360 controller.

Skyrim on the other hand was made for consoles but plays great on the PC!

 

[Tufty94]

I don't think it's fading out, infarct Volition ported Saints Row 3 in house because Saints Row 2's port was so terrible.

 

[JMeganSnow]

*Looks at massive pile of MMO's all vying for her attention*

Mmmmmm, nope.

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

PC isn't getting as many good AAA releases as it's used to. Instead, it's receiving a plethora if ingenious, brilliant indie titles, niche strategy games, with the occasional exclusive like The Witcher 2 designed to grind hardware into the ground.

PC isn't going anywhere. It's just changed its scope. It gets a much broader range of titles now, at the cost of a few blockbusters. That's fair enough, I'd say!

 

[Chrishu]

All I hear in this thread is a bunch of whining and entitlement. Oh my gosh! Consoles made gaming a huge activity and thanks to them we've just experienced the best release year ever?!

Nah, screw that. Cater to us because The PC Daleks are only 1/100th the size of the console crowd. Seriously. The market has spoken in favor of consoles. PC is niche.

 

[TheGreekGeekPrick]

The Witcher 2 and Skyrim are shining examples of the game being ALOT better on PC.

Skyrim isn't better on PC. Most of the people I know who have Skyrim on PC would rather it on consoles because it randomly crashes back to desktop when ever it feels like it.

Played both PC and PS3 versions. The PC version was more stable and looked better. Over the course of my playthrough on the PS3 I had to hard-reset the console at least five times, which is one of my biggest pet peeves. The only issue with Skyrim on the PC are the extremely console-oriented menus. Tell everyone that, as bad as they think they have it, they'd be worse off with the console versions.

There seems to be better PC support compared to, say, two years ago, but it still has some way to go.

But, rejoice! For if we get a new console generation, which will have undoubtedly nothing remarkable to offer from a technological standpoint, you can always upgrade your PC for 1/4 of the price and just be done with this business scheme.

 

[deus-ex-machina]

If you can afford an up to date PC which plays the newest games well, you or your parents earn enough for you to afford both a PC and a console.

Side note: If you live with your parents and rely on them for funding and have such a PC, please shut up now. You're already being spoiled and just be happy that they either love you so much to dish out for something they'll have to fix every couple of months because of porn viruses or alternatively, are happy to push you away with monetary values in the hundreds or thousands so that they can focus on maintaining a failing marriage after they hired a pool boy and female tennis coach. Ha, I kid. You're probably not that rich, but please, you made your choice. Live with it. Or wait until they divorce and play them against each other for ALL the consoles. *fist in the air*

My PC days consisted of games like Populous and Total War. I wouldn't really consider playing a PC game now unless it was the Sims... I will never play the Sims. But I admit I am a very casual gamer. I play with friends or I play to enjoy myself and I haven't stressed myself out over a game since I was 15. I have nothing against PCs and definitely nothing against PC gamers - I admit as a medium, it's superior to consoles but it's also much cheaper to invest in the odd console every half a decade or so if you're that desperate not to miss out on that all essential DLC. I don't want to have to dish out so much money to play the blue moon PC game that tickles my fancy.

 

[TheGreekGeekPrick]

If you can afford an up to date PC which plays the newest games well, you or your parents earn enough for you to afford both a PC and a console.

I'd like to point out here that, while this is the consensus, I'm not sure it holds up anymore. My 250 bucks PC runs pretty much everything (albeit with the settings dropped considerably). They don't look great, but they play fine. With 50 extra bucks spent on the graphics card, I'd be pretty much set on the visual department as well.

The biggest progress that hardware has seen in the last few years is efficiency, rather than raw power. Low and mid-range cards have better output and do so while consuming less power as well. I would really recommend people gauging the alternatives in their future purchases.

 

[TotalerKrieger]

All I hear in this thread is a bunch of whining and entitlement. Oh my gosh! Consoles made gaming a huge activity and thanks to them we've just experienced the best release year ever?!

Nah, screw that. Cater to us because The PC Daleks are only 1/100th the size of the console crowd. Seriously. The market has spoken in favor of consoles. PC is niche.

This is unfortunately true. Once again the market holds back technological progress..

 

[freaper]

Your not looking at the right places.
The Witcher 2 and Skyrim are shining examples of the game being ALOT better on PC.
Even fable 3 got a PC version with VAST improvements ( namely a difficulty setting).
The big games on PC don't come as frequently as console games.
Think about it in the terms fine dining(pc gamers) and MCdonalds(console gamers) even people who fine dine like to eat Mcdonalds sometimes but ALOT of people who have eaten Mcdonalds will NEVER fine dine.

Lovely stereotyping. And your avatar supports this brilliantly.

+1

 

[VeneratedWulfen93]

PC gaming fine but I prefer console since the only things I value on PC are RTS games. Literally everygame apart from classic FPS, RTS and early RPG's is better on console. Dragon Age: Origins is my favourite game of all time and I happily play it on my xbox 360.

I probably would get into PC gaming if it wasn't so expensive, intrusive and from the looks of the internet the majority of PC gamers feel like they're getting "shafted" by game devs.

 

[wakenbake]

Sadly I think it comes down to the bottom line - shops sell far more more console games than PC so it stands to reason that that developers (especially publishers) would think in that direction.

As a PC gamer it bothers me when we get a crappy port chucked at us almost as an afterthought, but then when we get a game made for PC first, I must admit, it gives me a 'special feeling'.

PC's have a more dedicated MOD-ing community too. GO PC!

 

[Talux]

I really don't feel like the PC is a dying platform at all. It seems like there's a new game that I'd like coming out for PC every other week, especially with all the indie titles on steam. Plus all the MMO's, RTS and Hon/LoL/Dota.

Yeah you get some rubbish stuff from console ports but generally I think things are pretty good. PC certainly isn't going away anytime soon.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

I don't know about you guys, but these last couple of years have taken so much money out of my pocket to feed my PC some of the most awesome games I've ever played.

On the subject of bad PC ports, cougharkhamcitycough

Really? Because it runs great on my PC.

this.

plus COD elite? your bitching about that of all things?

elite can go burn in a fire for all i care.

i really don't see how we've been getting the shaft...my wallet is destroyed from how many pc games i have been buying.

not to mention playing it on full settings with certain multiplatform games, quite a few of my friends have been getting jealous so i've built them gaming pc's and wallah, more to join our horde =]

plus with this console generation staying around for 3-4 more years, that is just going to let pc's build up even more fan reputation for how much better it'll look to it's counterparts

 

[Something Amyss]

And then there are PC exclusives: upcoming Tribes: Ascend, pretty much any MOBA or RTS game, TOR or Guild Wars 2, Diablo 3 or Path of Exile, tons of indie games, the list goes on.

LOL yeah. Totally getting the shaft, eh? XD

 

[lacktheknack]

Why not focus on PC's strengths?

Modability, strategy games, indies, ridiculously cheap deals popping up everywhere.

I feel sorry for console players, really. If I played nothing but AAA shooters and sandbox games, then yeah, it feels like PC is being screwed. But after I got ticked and started looking at other genres and sources, I feel like PC is the go-to platform for innovation and little-guy sensibilities.

I mean look at this.

http://www.humblebundle.com/

All of Introversion's stuff are PC exclusive and completely unique. You've NEVER played a game like Uplink, I guarantee. If I didn't play PC, I'd never play the bizarre and awesome Darwinia, the hyper-tense Uplink, or the positively depressing DEFCON.

 

[Berenzen]

I'm looking at my Serious Sam download bar at 90% and thinking nope.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

There's a veryhigh.ini file (might not be the exact name) with a bunch of stuff that's not selectable in the game menus. Don't know if you've tried that already, might want to look into it though.

Edit: That seems to be lower than ultra judging by the values...

 

[Wolfram23]

To be honest, the only thing I find frustrating about it is the last 3 games I bought had issues on release. Partly dev faults partly AMD's fault (Nvidia had issues too but I'm running a Crossfire setup so I get the worst of it).

RAGE - no crossfire support. Crazy texture issues. Etc. I'm sure you heard about it. It's only now fixed in the 11.11a driver update (plus game patches). Fortunately the modding community helped with custom config files to make it all nice a pretty for me.

Battlefield 3 - crappy crossfire scaling. Fixed now.

Skyrim - negative crossfire scaling. Other stupid issues like a shitty menu system, "new" engine running DX9, only supports 44khz audio or else it crashes...

Generally speaking though I don't think it's all that bad on PC. Yeah, they could definitely do with taking a little more time to polish up the games and give AMD/Nvidia what they need to make driver updates at launch, but otherwise I've been really busy playing awesome PC games for months now.

 

[Wolfram23]

If anything the only thing annoying about PC gaming is that the consoles are holding the graphics and physics engines back massively not because they are bad but because they are old.

Skyrim for example wasn't even made to take advantage of quad core :| and the 'Ultra' settings are really quite low. I'm personally waiting for an ini file that will take advantage of my system.

There's a veryhigh.ini file (might not be the exact name) with a bunch of stuff that's not selectable in the game menus. Don't know if you've tried that already, might want to look into it though.

OT: Eh, not really.

Although I have a particular beef at the moment: mouse smoothing/acceleration and FOV. Stop fucking forcing the former and not providing an option to turn it off (it should be off by default anyway, I've never known anyone to actively want the fucking thing), and stop leaving the latter at widths that are only suitable when you're sitting away from a big screen.

The PC's coming back to the forefront, problem is that some devs are too stupid/lazy to just include all the options in the menus and realise that PC gamers aren't console gamers. But there are plenty that focus on it.

Instead of screwing around with values in the Skyrim configs, I suggest you just use this:
http://donotargue.com/cfg-makers/skyrim/

The recent update they did to it is so awesome.