Well if I'm ever in Australia in the next few years I'll have to check out the Mana bar. I've never used the word to describe anyone so hopefully that'll give you some measure of comfort, or an ego boost, hell I don't know. On the downside is that you'll be getting a hell of a lot of people screaming bloody murder because they identify themselves as gamers.
Don't Use the Word "Gamer"
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Nice to know I'm not the only person who thinks "gamer" is a stupid tag line.
All negative implications aside, it just sounds stupid....-_-
Oh, and who the fuck is Aeris, wait a sec!(google)
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Oh please!0o
All negative implications aside, it just sounds stupid....-_-
Oh, and who the fuck is Aeris, wait a sec!(google)
....
Oh please!0o
This is what I would say your post conveys to the reader. If you don't like what he says, stop reading it and quit spewing all over the forums.Sir John the Net Knight said:
I like ZP videos, and consider myself a fan of them, but I think I try to remain as neutral as I can. So, based in what you said, isn't it easier to turn and walk away? I'm not rejecting you right to voice your opinion, but you don't have the obligation of voicing it either.Sir John the Net Knight said:
Keep that up, and you won't have to worry about your job as a video game authority for too much longer. It's like an Astronomer holding a press conference and saying, "yeah, I found a new comet, but you know what? The sky isn't all that important. All the money you spent on my observatory? Completely wasted. This Astronomy thing is bunk - I should probably get a real job. Maybe I'll run a bar in a busy Australian district catering to people as deluded as I am."Yahtzee says said:
Sure they do, they do this all the time. They run out and start clubs dedicated to these aims. Granted, they sort of define themselves by genre a bit better, but calling yourself a gamer is more or less the same idea.Yahtzee says said:
Overall, I see what you're getting at, "gamers have negative stigma, stop calling yourself a label associated with a negative stigma" but disassociating yourself a negative label isn't going to improve society's viewpoint of the people who engage the activities related to that label. What do you think all those black pride or gay pride parades are about? It's about, "fine, I'm an x, but if you've got a problem with that then that's baseless prejudice." Because if you tell people, "don't call me an x," they tend to call you it again, with more feeling. Labels cannot be avoided, but you can gain sovereignty over them.
Something about this article doesn't sit right with me, but I honestly can't be sure of what. Yes, the label of Gamer can be harmful to image of a person it's attached to, but at the same time, there does appear to be a distinct line between what are commonly known as gamers and casuals. There are variations in each, but I don't know if anyone really bridges the gap.
Hmm... I call myself a gamer, but I wouldn't say I'm a hardcore gamer, a title which raises other images in one's mind. For me, it's a man playing a game for over 400 hours to get every last possible bit of it done, but even that's not much of a negative image in my mind.
I'm not sure what the ultimate point I'm trying to make is here, but I think that it may be not worrying about a label and just wondering about the stigma attached to it. I don't attach any stigma to the title of "gamer," and maybe that's what irks me about this article. it seems to perpetuate the stereotype by cementing the image of a cheeto-encrusted mouth breathed sitting in a darkened basement in his underwear believing he is "teh roxxor," and that's just not it. I think rather than pulling away from using a word like gamer, we should strive more to understand that the gamer is a person. As is the American, or Austrailian, or Black person, or Race Car Driver. It's just a name, maybe one I cling to a little as a defining feature of myself, but a name none-the-less.
At least it sound better than "Juggalos".
Also: Games are important to many people, just like books are important, films are important, and music is important. I couldn't agree with what he said less.
Hmm... I call myself a gamer, but I wouldn't say I'm a hardcore gamer, a title which raises other images in one's mind. For me, it's a man playing a game for over 400 hours to get every last possible bit of it done, but even that's not much of a negative image in my mind.
I'm not sure what the ultimate point I'm trying to make is here, but I think that it may be not worrying about a label and just wondering about the stigma attached to it. I don't attach any stigma to the title of "gamer," and maybe that's what irks me about this article. it seems to perpetuate the stereotype by cementing the image of a cheeto-encrusted mouth breathed sitting in a darkened basement in his underwear believing he is "teh roxxor," and that's just not it. I think rather than pulling away from using a word like gamer, we should strive more to understand that the gamer is a person. As is the American, or Austrailian, or Black person, or Race Car Driver. It's just a name, maybe one I cling to a little as a defining feature of myself, but a name none-the-less.
At least it sound better than "Juggalos".
Also: Games are important to many people, just like books are important, films are important, and music is important. I couldn't agree with what he said less.
Do go on, I'd love to see what you define as a "person like me".Sir John the Net Knight said:
What point are you making other than "I can write my opinion too", congratulations your opinion is counter to Yahtzee.
Sure, fan boys flock over in defence of the guys opinion because they like this hat but nobody really cares.
It's an opinion, it's subjective.
it's probably because zynga lured in a bunch of casual gamer shitheads to the site during march mayhem and some of them are still herexDarc said:
Glados (I spent most of this afternoon re-playing Portal) doesn't care, neither do I.Sir John the Net Knight said:
But running off on her own to summon Holy without anyone to back her up and protect her was a complete and utter Crowning Moment of Stupid, as far as I'm concerned. And yes, I do think Tifa's a much stronger female stereotype that I can relate to, whereas Aeris always seemed a tad wishy-washy Princess Peach type to me. Sorry.
Sir, If I could, I would shake your hand. I would like to point out also that I have zero concerns with religion, as its brought more suffering to this world that anything else man has created.Yeslek Ssomllur said:
I also like you arguement here... though im not touching the necro part...Yeslek Ssomllur said:
I agree with the reasoning and intent of this article. Still, like how there are differences between "a person who watches movies" and "a person who watches movies, contributes to IMDB, studies film in school, etc." there's a difference between "people who play video games" and "people who play video games, follow industry news, anticipate future developments, etc." I feel some form of identification must exist to acknowledge two very different levels of engagement with the hobby. The word "enthusiast" not only fits nicely to me, but also works with any hobby.
One bit did bother me, though:
One bit did bother me, though:
I understand the humorous intent, but it does point to a very real issue. Why do people assume emotionally troubled and/or attention-seeking females have "daddy issues"?
The irony is I didn't think a girl playing video games was anything special until people on the internet even said anything about it.
And then I proceeded to Derp the hell out of it to provoke the ire of mine fellow gamer.
Sorry for any grief I have caused anyone for the sake of my cheap laughs.
And then I proceeded to Derp the hell out of it to provoke the ire of mine fellow gamer.
Sorry for any grief I have caused anyone for the sake of my cheap laughs.
I'm the PCfag,Steam is a good friend of mine and a cool story bro.Irridium said:If you really want to be classified as "gamer", I have a handy dandy little chart so you can see what kind of gamer you are.
However thats only if you consider yourself a gamer, instead of simply "someone who play games".
Ooh, now you've piqued my interest... and what, pray tell, oh expert on all things FFVII-related did I get wrong just then?Sir John the Net Knight said:
Some people in here need to chill a bit. Yahtzee wrote his opinion and he's entitled to it, just like everyone else is entitled to theirs. Yahtzee's just tend to amuse more than others on occasion but flying off the handle because some people like his ideas/opinions/way of expressing things is taking things too seriously. Add abusing people for their opinions or for what they like/don't like into that mix and you (general "you")just turn into a generally unpleasant person...
Now onto this "gamer" thing. Well I think of myself as a gamer, not because I like to pull out a loudspeaker and blast it out into the world but because the name is short, precise and sums up one of the things I like to do, gaming. I pull out the word when wonder of wonders I meet other people who admit to being "gamers" as well and then we move onto doing one of the most important things a "gamer" can do... ribbing each other about the games we play and exaggerating our "skills"!
Now onto this "gamer" thing. Well I think of myself as a gamer, not because I like to pull out a loudspeaker and blast it out into the world but because the name is short, precise and sums up one of the things I like to do, gaming. I pull out the word when wonder of wonders I meet other people who admit to being "gamers" as well and then we move onto doing one of the most important things a "gamer" can do... ribbing each other about the games we play and exaggerating our "skills"!
I totally agree. Whenever you hear the word "Gamer" you think of a socially inept loser in a basement. On cracked.com David Wong actually wrote a pretty good article about this same sort of situation. I guess great minds think alike then? Anyway, enjoy "oppressing some brown people" and have fun on vacation Yahtzee