Doom Reboot Revealed by Bethesda
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Who are we kidding, I bet it's basically going to be this:Ohlookit said:
All hell will break loose if they 'modernise' any of the gameplay (pun intended) But I bet it'll be way closer to COD than original DOOM gameplay-wise
Actually the Brutal DooM mod adds a lot of fun gameplay elements, beyond the gore and profanity (and hey, flipping the bird to a cyberdemon and have it get so enraged it fires 3x faster is hilarious).
I consider the original DooM games my favourite games ever, and yet Brutal DooM I think perfected the formula (it could be more polished, true).
As for the trailer. I don't like that cyber-demon design. Too... Human shaped. Looks like the profile of a Gears of War soldier, a big hunk of meat.
We'll see how the game turns out. I actually liked DooM 3 and what they were going for, and would've preferred if they had committed to the horror theme instead of chicken out mid-game and go back to run-and-shoot gameplay.
All I can hope for this new game is that whatever they decide to do, they have the courage to see it through instead of waffling around when focus tests don't come up as expected.
I consider the original DooM games my favourite games ever, and yet Brutal DooM I think perfected the formula (it could be more polished, true).
As for the trailer. I don't like that cyber-demon design. Too... Human shaped. Looks like the profile of a Gears of War soldier, a big hunk of meat.
We'll see how the game turns out. I actually liked DooM 3 and what they were going for, and would've preferred if they had committed to the horror theme instead of chicken out mid-game and go back to run-and-shoot gameplay.
All I can hope for this new game is that whatever they decide to do, they have the courage to see it through instead of waffling around when focus tests don't come up as expected.
They already rebooted Doom, Doom 3. It was awesome, not sure why we need another reboot when it was already done in a new fascinating way and then there's the other issue of having an insane modding community still alive for the Doom series including Brutal Doom
These guys need to outsource this to Crotale. They've proven semi-recently with Serious Sam 3 that they really know how to do this sort of thing.
Nevertheless, Doom 3 was actually awesome. Level design was not. How the lighting was used was not. The scarcity of enemies, and sometimes weapons and ammo also wasn't that great.
Nevertheless, Doom 3 was actually awesome. Level design was not. How the lighting was used was not. The scarcity of enemies, and sometimes weapons and ammo also wasn't that great.
Brutal Doom gets too much credit. There are far superior Doom Wads out there. That said, what made Doom so great wasn't just the gore or the action, it was the huge sprawling open ended levels pre-populated with monsters. That is what is missing from most games that try for a Doom formula nowadays. They might capture some of the action, but I don't get the same feel from moving from one linear room to another while enemies spawn in from places I can't reach.hakkarin said:
(I am aware Doom had spawning enemies also but most enemies were pre-placed)
Well, it will be super easy to see if this game deserves to be passed or not.
Does the main character run at 50MPH Y/N?
If no, then I don't need to buy it.
Edit: And before I get 20 quotes telling me there's more to Doom than running fast, you're absolutely right. My point is that if they botch that one part, then I have little faith that the entirety of the rest of the game won't follow. Running fast didn't make Doom fun, but it was necessary because of what did. Run-and-gun action needs players to be able to dodge and escape, or hit and fade. Doomguy's speed is what allowed the gameplay to be what it was without sucking.
Does the main character run at 50MPH Y/N?
If no, then I don't need to buy it.
Edit: And before I get 20 quotes telling me there's more to Doom than running fast, you're absolutely right. My point is that if they botch that one part, then I have little faith that the entirety of the rest of the game won't follow. Running fast didn't make Doom fun, but it was necessary because of what did. Run-and-gun action needs players to be able to dodge and escape, or hit and fade. Doomguy's speed is what allowed the gameplay to be what it was without sucking.
Actually it has, it can get a pass if the story doesnt interrupt what is primarly a gameplay focused game (like Wolfenstein: The New Order did it great) or is simply good but its not like devs do bad stories on purpose, sometimes they really arent up to the task.hakkarin said:
Hitman Absolution and the Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six series, for example, ended up making quite a few gameplay sacrifices in their open-endness because of the bigger story focus.
If they really believe that their story is very high quality and doesnt get in the way of what made Doom so fun to play and replay then fine by me, but that is really a long shot and a risky move, especially since we dont even know if they can pull off the gameplay alone.
What a lot of others have asked: Does Doomguy run 40/50 MPH and only run out of ammo if he either hasn't switched weapons in a long time or you are playing a really hard mod level? I want the real DooM 3 not Resident Evil if ID had the license. (Doom 3 was good but it lost the magic of the old school games.) I want non-stop action in areas that feels like old school FPS maps not linear(Ok D3 did have backtracking here and there) halls with low lighting.
Don't forget the Rise of the Triad reboot.Adam Jensen said:
No, just no. As much as BD can be fun sometimes, we don't need everything inspired by that ridiculous gorefest.Aeshi said:
Speaking of this reveal, it's nothing more than just prerendered crap. I'm not impressed, id. Your core talent is gone, you are nothing but a shell of your former self. Show some non-doctored screenshots or short beta footage or don't tell us anything.
-A long time Doom fan
