Doom Reboot Revealed by Bethesda
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Brutal Doom gets too much credit. There are far superior Doom Wads out there. That said, what made Doom so great wasn't just the gore or the action, it was the huge sprawling open ended levels pre-populated with monsters. That is what is missing from most games that try for a Doom formula nowadays. They might capture some of the action, but I don't get the same feel from moving from one linear room to another while enemies spawn in from places I can't reach.hakkarin said:
(I am aware Doom had spawning enemies also but most enemies were pre-placed)
Well, it will be super easy to see if this game deserves to be passed or not.
Does the main character run at 50MPH Y/N?
If no, then I don't need to buy it.
Edit: And before I get 20 quotes telling me there's more to Doom than running fast, you're absolutely right. My point is that if they botch that one part, then I have little faith that the entirety of the rest of the game won't follow. Running fast didn't make Doom fun, but it was necessary because of what did. Run-and-gun action needs players to be able to dodge and escape, or hit and fade. Doomguy's speed is what allowed the gameplay to be what it was without sucking.
Does the main character run at 50MPH Y/N?
If no, then I don't need to buy it.
Edit: And before I get 20 quotes telling me there's more to Doom than running fast, you're absolutely right. My point is that if they botch that one part, then I have little faith that the entirety of the rest of the game won't follow. Running fast didn't make Doom fun, but it was necessary because of what did. Run-and-gun action needs players to be able to dodge and escape, or hit and fade. Doomguy's speed is what allowed the gameplay to be what it was without sucking.
Actually it has, it can get a pass if the story doesnt interrupt what is primarly a gameplay focused game (like Wolfenstein: The New Order did it great) or is simply good but its not like devs do bad stories on purpose, sometimes they really arent up to the task.hakkarin said:
Hitman Absolution and the Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six series, for example, ended up making quite a few gameplay sacrifices in their open-endness because of the bigger story focus.
If they really believe that their story is very high quality and doesnt get in the way of what made Doom so fun to play and replay then fine by me, but that is really a long shot and a risky move, especially since we dont even know if they can pull off the gameplay alone.
What a lot of others have asked: Does Doomguy run 40/50 MPH and only run out of ammo if he either hasn't switched weapons in a long time or you are playing a really hard mod level? I want the real DooM 3 not Resident Evil if ID had the license. (Doom 3 was good but it lost the magic of the old school games.) I want non-stop action in areas that feels like old school FPS maps not linear(Ok D3 did have backtracking here and there) halls with low lighting.
Don't forget the Rise of the Triad reboot.Adam Jensen said:
No, just no. As much as BD can be fun sometimes, we don't need everything inspired by that ridiculous gorefest.Aeshi said:
Speaking of this reveal, it's nothing more than just prerendered crap. I'm not impressed, id. Your core talent is gone, you are nothing but a shell of your former self. Show some non-doctored screenshots or short beta footage or don't tell us anything.
-A long time Doom fan
At this point, I would be legitimately more excited about a new Commander Keen game than yet another Doom reboot. Unless it goes full-on Dead Alive level grindhouse horror on us. Then I'm 100% down with a new Doom or whatever they call it.
Yeah I can understand why they did it, but I would have liked it being a surprise. The only bit I liked in Doom 3 was right at the end when you walked through that gap in the wall which actually turned out to be between the Cyberdemon's legs. Scared the shit out of me.Doom972 said:
Sure it can be. Take Diablo 3 for example. Adventure mode is popular precisely because the story is utter shit and people want the chance to enjoy the actual game without it getting in the way. Or GTA4, which had a great game hidden behind the "story" of constantly having to drive your cousin to the pub over and over and over again. Or look at virtually any decent platformer or racing game, where trying to force a story into it usually achieves nothing other than getting in the way of the gameplay. A good story properly fitted into a game won't usually make it worse, but a bad story or a badly implemented one absolutely can.hakkarin said:
It doesn't matter to me, as it's probably going to be terrible (as usual with games) and i'm probably going to skip every single cutscene and curse every unskipable Half-Life segment. I'd much rather have a level oriented and fast paced action game. If there is a story, keep it between the levels so it's easy to ignore. To me, that would improve 90% of all modern action games, the story is usually the thing dragging it down.hakkarin said:
Not sure about scary levels in Doom, i always saw it as horror themed (obviously) but i never thought of it as scary and to be honest, i was surprised when i learned that people remembered it as a scary game. It also surprised me that Midway decided to interpret it as a horror game in their ps1 ports. But different strokes, to me it's like calling Army Of Darkness a scary movie, i guess it's technically true, but i don't see it as a horror movie in any way.
But then again, it can be scary in the best possible way when you are low on health and ammo and hear the sound of an archvlile that is most certainly going to kill you.
They're having to reboot the reboot. Unfortunately Doom-3-Guy was shown a tac-light by a well meaning programmer and, well, there was an 'episode'.canadamus_prime said:
OT: Colour me interested, but I hope we get a shameless gore-soaked romp through hell. Leave the tense survival horror to Alien: Isolation (which is looking amazing as well).
Yeah I really don't understand the entire number system at all. Perhaps yahtzee is right and publishers and developers do it just to piss off future archivists. I mean really if you want to reboot DOOM and turn into anything other than a run and gun demon killing fest with heavy metal music in the back ground wouldn't it be a smart idea to not associate yourself that closely with the original game? I mean its not like Doom was a tiny hit that flew under the radar and this is a chance for the dev to reintroduce people. I mean are there really any people that are going to not buy the game if its called DOOM: Portal to Hell or more likely DOOM:Revelations. But just calling it Doom is going inevitably burn more people when it doesn't stick to the exact formula of its namesake.BeeGeenie said:
I have no idea what you mean by that. "tac-light?" I don't understand. What "episode?"Grouchy Imp said: