Doom switch edition is out

CaitSeith

Formely Gone Gonzo
Legacy
Jun 30, 2014
5,374
381
88
Ezekiel said:
cathou said:
But I tried to read reviews about it, and I'm kind of disappointed that every single review out there so far seems to only compare it to the PS4/Xbox/pic version. I want to know if the game is good on it's own merits not if it hold up against other version graphics, and if the game is complete or if there's something missing. I don't care that it run at 30fps. I mean,if I look at some comment, some people seems to think that their eye will bleed if they dare watch something at 30 fps...
Then why don't you just read the reviews that came out two years ago? The same publications don't need to review the content again.
Because the experience between two platforms may vary significantly. Remember the PC version of Arkham Knight?
 

cathou

Souris la vie est un fromage
Apr 6, 2009
1,163
0
0
JUMBO PALACE said:
But the truth is the truth no matter how it hurts. The Switch, just like the Wii U and Wii before it, is dropping the ball on third party games. Currently at least. Maybe more are coming, I certainly hope they are. But for right now the only reason to get a Switch is for first party titles (as per the usual) or if you "desperately want" the mobile factor, because third party games like Doom are objectively uglier on the Switch thanks to the hardware.
i dont think they actually drop the ball on third party right now. forget how the game look or not. first switch is way more easy to code a game in than the wii or the WiiU. now, if you look at the, let say top 20 sales of the wii, the wiiu and the switch, 14 out of 20 be4st selling games was publish by nintendo. on the wiiu, 18 out of 2o was published by nintendo. now, switch on the other hand, 5 out of 20 are publish by nintendo. third party sell way more for the switch than it sells for the wiiu. at the end, it's the only thing that count for the developpers. is it worth it ? Doom is number 3 in the eshop sales right now, and i think the sells are pretty good. Skyrim will be out this week, and it will probably sell well too. who cares waht the game look, if the sales are there, company will develop for the system...
 

Yoshi178

New member
Aug 15, 2014
2,108
0
0
JUMBO PALACE said:
Yoshi178 said:
Arnoxthe1 said:
Yoshi178 said:
and yet people like Johnny Novgorod over here kept bragging about how Switch wasn't ever going to get "Current" gen titles like Wolfenstein II and such to me earlier this year back in about June i think it was.
I don't care what Johnny said because I didn't say that. I said I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.
Pretty sure games like Rocket League, Sonic Forces, WWE 2k18 and Fifa 18 are all current generation games.


but i'm sure you'll make up some excuse as to why those don't count too...
Are you seriously using using this quoted post as some kind of victory or trump card? The cherry picking here is glorious. One game out of all the titles on the list comes out for the Switch and you roll out the victory mat, completely ignoring the fact that (as it was pointed out previously) both Doom and Wolfenstein are running on Id Tech which you could probably modify to run on a calculator (that's me using sarcasm fyi). I know you are probably the Escapist's biggest Nintendo apologist but you must see how ridiculous this post is right?

And for the record, I have no interest whatsoever in what version of a game you or anyone else buys. But the truth is the truth no matter how it hurts. The Switch, just like the Wii U and Wii before it, is dropping the ball on third party games. Currently at least. Maybe more are coming, I certainly hope they are. But for right now the only reason to get a Switch is for first party titles (as per the usual) or if you "desperately want" the mobile factor, because third party games like Doom are objectively uglier on the Switch thanks to the hardware.
Shin Megam Tensei 5, Travis Strikes Back, and Ace Attorney are all 3rd Party games that have been confirmed for the Switch. wrong 3rd Party games though? would the Switch getting games like COD WWII & PUBG make you happier instead?

There's also heavy rumors floating around atm saying that Soul Caliber VI will be announced at the Playstation event coming up and that the game will also be on the PC and Switch but not the Xbox One.
 

cathou

Souris la vie est un fromage
Apr 6, 2009
1,163
0
0
Ezekiel said:
That wasn't the question. He complained that the reviews focus on tech issues, visuals and performance and not on the content.
not exactly, i wished they focus more on does it look good by itself, is the framerate feel right or buggy, if theres was bugs and if content is missing, rather than spending half of the review doing a frame by frame comparaison with the other versions. clearly they have to mention it, but is it worth it to spend most of the review on that comparaison and barely talk about the game itself ? is it fair to made a review for those who have polay before, but not for those who havent ?

and reading reviews on when the game came out on other system is not very complete. there was dlc and patches after that. change have been made to the game since then, they add arcade mode, they changed multiplayer.
 

kilenem

New member
Jul 21, 2013
903
0
0
Playing DOOM makes me think Nintendo should hire Panic Buttons port team because its a damn good port. Its a better port then Legend of Zelda BOTW, Granted many problems in BOTW were patched out but I haven't had any graphical hiccups, or Frame drops yet.
 

cathou

Souris la vie est un fromage
Apr 6, 2009
1,163
0
0
kilenem said:
Playing DOOM makes me think Nintendo should hire Panic Buttons port team because its a damn good port. Its a better port then Legend of Zelda BOTW, Granted many problems in BOTW were patched out but I haven't had any graphical hiccups, or Frame drops yet.
yes, it remind me that half of the reviewers i found said that there was a framerate issue, the other half said there wasnt, except maybe once or twince in the whole game. personnaly, i didnt noticed bad frame rates. maybe because i play on medium difficulty. but i'm at the third stage and so far nothing...
 

sXeth

Elite Member
Legacy
Nov 15, 2012
3,301
676
118
cathou said:
kilenem said:
Playing DOOM makes me think Nintendo should hire Panic Buttons port team because its a damn good port. Its a better port then Legend of Zelda BOTW, Granted many problems in BOTW were patched out but I haven't had any graphical hiccups, or Frame drops yet.
yes, it remind me that half of the reviewers i found said that there was a framerate issue, the other half said there wasnt, except maybe once or twince in the whole game. personnaly, i didnt noticed bad frame rates. maybe because i play on medium difficulty. but i'm at the third stage and so far nothing...
Technically, you could just be killing stuff fast enough that it doesn't pile up and drag the framerate down.
 

cathou

Souris la vie est un fromage
Apr 6, 2009
1,163
0
0
Seth Carter said:
cathou said:
kilenem said:
Playing DOOM makes me think Nintendo should hire Panic Buttons port team because its a damn good port. Its a better port then Legend of Zelda BOTW, Granted many problems in BOTW were patched out but I haven't had any graphical hiccups, or Frame drops yet.
yes, it remind me that half of the reviewers i found said that there was a framerate issue, the other half said there wasnt, except maybe once or twince in the whole game. personnaly, i didnt noticed bad frame rates. maybe because i play on medium difficulty. but i'm at the third stage and so far nothing...
Technically, you could just be killing stuff fast enough that it doesn't pile up and drag the framerate down.
true, but i'm actually not very good at this game, and they do pile up ! but i'm practicing. i can play 15 minutes a few time per evening before the kids are screaming : mommy, we need you !
 

fix-the-spade

New member
Feb 25, 2008
8,639
0
0
Arnoxthe1 said:
I think the only reason the Switch can get away with running Doom 4 at all is that idTech 6 is hella optimized. All the other third party games I'm seeing for it are all last gen.
Id 'We Got Doom running on a pocket calculator, so Doom 4 on your console is easy,' Software.

30fps is disappointing, I would take Doom 4 looking like Doom 3 but running at 60fps over it looking current gen but running slow. But motion sickness is apparently less of a problem than shinies.
 

Chimpzy_v1legacy

Warning! Contains bananas!
Jun 21, 2009
4,789
1
0
That's nice for the Switch owners out there, and from what I heard and seen it's an impressive porting job.

Not enough to convince me to get a Switch though. Maybe Xenoblade 2 will change my mind. Besides, own Doom '16 on PC already and I'd miss my KB&M too much. Tried a controller. IMO plays like arse by comparison.

Ironically, there's no OG Doom port for Switch yet, so the meme question "Does it run Doom?" still has "No" as answer.
 

Mad World

Member
Legacy
Sep 18, 2009
795
0
1
Country
Canada
Yoshi178 said:
Switch version looks fine. nowhere close to being the same type of night and day difference between the graphics like what was had between the Wii compared with 360 & PS3, which graphics whores keep falsely claiming the difference to be.
Man... I have to say that I can definitely see as to why people claim that you come off as a Nintendo fanboy. You never miss an opportunity. The graphics alone may not be a night-and-day difference, but the point is that there is a difference AND it's locked to 30 frames per second on the Switch.
 

Chewster

It's yer man Chewy here!
Apr 24, 2008
1,050
0
0
Why the hell anyone would buy a port on any of the recent Nintendo systems is beyond me. Also, massive LOL @ bragging about how it's portable. Cool, I guess I can throw my Vita in the trash, then.

Honestly, unless the Switch is your only system (which, if it is, fair dues, we're not all rich), there is no point. You can get a better version of it for cheaper on pretty much every other available platform. Only hardcore fanbois see a game that has been out for months or years and then brag about being charged extra for a less technically impressive version just because you can walk around with it in your bag. And I say that as someone who is not especially obsessed with specs.

You buy Nintendo for the first party titles. You buy a decent laptop/tablet/PC/whatever other system for the rest. Durr.

I might have to buy this for VR though, but only if they include smooth aiming with a regular controller, which is doesn't look likely to occur :)sadface:). At 40 dollars CDN on PSN (30 American on Steam), that still makes it cheaper than the Switch version.
 

Yoshi178

New member
Aug 15, 2014
2,108
0
0
Mad World said:
Yoshi178 said:
Switch version looks fine. nowhere close to being the same type of night and day difference between the graphics like what was had between the Wii compared with 360 & PS3, which graphics whores keep falsely claiming the difference to be.
Man... I have to say that I can definitely see as to why people claim that you come off as a Nintendo fanboy. You never miss an opportunity. The graphics alone may not be a night-and-day difference, but the point is that there is a difference AND it's locked to 30 frames per second on the Switch.
and?

the picture difference is a huge issue with you why? because the picture isn't as pretty as the PS4's? guess Playstation fans should be sad too because their picture isn't as pretty on the PS4 Pro as it is on the Xbox One X's picture. and Xbox fans should be all sad too because their picture isn't as pretty as the PC version's picture.


yeah there's a difference in picture. but it isn't anywhere near as big of a deal as you guys make it out to be.
 

Yoshi178

New member
Aug 15, 2014
2,108
0
0
Chewster said:
Why the hell anyone would buy a port on any of the recent Nintendo systems is beyond me. Also, massive LOL @ bragging about how it's portable. Cool, I guess I can throw my Vita in the trash, then.

Honestly, unless the Switch is your only system (which, if it is, fair dues, we're not all rich), there is no point. You can get a better version of it for cheaper on pretty much every other available platform. Only hardcore fanbois see a game that has been out for months or years and then brag about being charged extra for a less technically impressive version just because you can walk around with it in your bag. And I say that as someone who is not especially obsessed with specs.

You buy Nintendo for the first party titles. You buy a decent laptop/tablet/PC/whatever other system for the rest. Durr.

I might have to buy this for VR though, but only if they include smooth aiming with a regular controller, which is doesn't look likely to occur :)sadface:). At 40 dollars CDN on PSN (30 American on Steam), that still makes it cheaper than the Switch version.
i can't play my PC on the train to work when i want to play DOOM or Wolfenstein II, or Valkyria Chronicles 4, etc.

Wolfenstein II and Valkyria Chronicles 4 haven't been out for years just FYI.
 

sXeth

Elite Member
Legacy
Nov 15, 2012
3,301
676
118
Chewster said:
Why the hell anyone would buy a port on any of the recent Nintendo systems is beyond me. Also, massive LOL @ bragging about how it's portable. Cool, I guess I can throw my Vita in the trash, then.

Honestly, unless the Switch is your only system (which, if it is, fair dues, we're not all rich), there is no point. You can get a better version of it for cheaper on pretty much every other available platform. Only hardcore fanbois see a game that has been out for months or years and then brag about being charged extra for a less technically impressive version just because you can walk around with it in your bag. And I say that as someone who is not especially obsessed with specs.

You buy Nintendo for the first party titles. You buy a decent laptop/tablet/PC/whatever other system for the rest. Durr.

I might have to buy this for VR though, but only if they include smooth aiming with a regular controller, which is doesn't look likely to occur :)sadface:). At 40 dollars CDN on PSN (30 American on Steam), that still makes it cheaper than the Switch version.
I'd be pretty impressed if you found a tablet that could run any current console stuff. Or even a laptop in the same relative price ranges, though its more obviously technically possible.

Doom VR seems like the most ill conceived idea you could do with Doom though. Doom's thing has always been moving a lot. The thing VR definitely does in a range of poor to awful to actually injuring the user is movement, especially rapidly.
 

Chewster

It's yer man Chewy here!
Apr 24, 2008
1,050
0
0
Seth Carter said:
I'd be pretty impressed if you found a tablet that could run any current console stuff. Or even a laptop in the same relative price ranges, though its more obviously technically possible.
Well I mean, Doom came out a year and a half ago, but point taken. Still, I very much doubt that people are clamouring to buy the Switch just so they can can play a graphically downgraded Doom outside in the shining sun or whatever. Portability does not justify that price in my humble opinion.

Doom VR seems like the most ill conceived idea you could do with Doom though. Doom's thing has always been moving a lot. The thing VR definitely does in a range of poor to awful to actually injuring the user is movement, especially rapidly.
Maybe, but it's not even out for another week yet, so who knows. FarPoint has a fair amount of movement and it plays fine. They also warn you fairly well to leave some space between you and the TV so you're not smashing all your shit up like an idiot. The only game I've had to actually get up and move a bunch of stuff out of the way for is SuperHot VR, which does have a fair amount of physical movement to it. The rest you can play sitting down. All they'd have to do is program the game to limit the monster spawning range to a wide cone of periphery to periphery if they were worried people would be swinging their helmet all over the place and breaking everything. Anyway, I've tried the teleporting thing in a couple demos and while some people swear it works, I'm not a big fan personally as I don't really get ill from playing VR.

I mean, give me Doom with Aim Controller support and there would be serious hell to raise.
 

sXeth

Elite Member
Legacy
Nov 15, 2012
3,301
676
118
Chewster said:
Seth Carter said:
I'd be pretty impressed if you found a tablet that could run any current console stuff. Or even a laptop in the same relative price ranges, though its more obviously technically possible.
Well I mean, Doom came out a year and a half ago, but point taken. Still, I very much doubt that people are clamouring to buy the Switch just so they can can play a graphically downgraded Doom outside in the shining sun or whatever. Portability does not justify that price in my humble opinion.
I can't comment on the value of portability myself. I'm in that weird camp of folks who find the idea of taking multi-hundred dollar pieces of delicate electronic equipment into the hazards of the outside world a tad strange. So unless I got a switch at a thrift shop for 10 dollars like my DS, thats probably out. (I also don't play many games that do well in short bursts either.)

I already have Doom on PS4, as does my cousin who has the Switch I play on while watching his kid sometimes. And he has game sharing set up with me, so he has it too. Got no real stake on that one really.

The obvious point that if you only have one console in your budget (or your space concern, or whatever) and want Nintendo games. Well its nice to have some of the multi-platform stuff returning to it. Certainly if you have younger kids around, its probably the main console that has easily findable kid-friendly titles (Sony off and on. Microsoft basically never).

That not being any particular concern of mine, and because it has asymmetric joysticks, which I hate (funnily, if they had the option to invert the one stick, you could actually flip one side to fix that), generally means that despite having titles from it vying for my top 5 of the year, I'm unlikely to get it.