Dragon Age's combat

[ZtH]

I'm doing it wrong because I seemingly don't need to do it?

Logic.

Not so. The reason you don't need to do it yet is because the difficulty hasn't stepped up. I think the game tries to gradually get you used to pausing to avoid being super frustrating right off the bat. In your case it seems they went a bit overboard and now its boring to start. The character class you chose is probably one of the easiest to leave to automatic tactics, but it will become much more gratifying as you progress. Learning to time taunts, critical strikes, and the like will lead to a much more enjoyable time playing a warrior. While it may be easy to just faceroll everything now you have to be prepared for a sharp increase in difficulty, especially when you start dealing with opposing mages.

 

[ionveau]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

 

[binvjoh]

I'm doing it wrong because I seemingly don't need to do it?

Logic.

Not so. The reason you don't need to do it yet is because the difficulty hasn't stepped up. I think the game tries to gradually get you used to pausing to avoid being super frustrating right off the bat. In your case it seems they went a bit overboard and now its boring to start. The character class you chose is probably one of the easiest to leave to automatic tactics, but it will become much more gratifying as you progress. Learning to time taunts, critical strikes, and the like will lead to a much more enjoyable time playing a warrior. While it may be easy to just faceroll everything now you have to be prepared for a sharp increase in difficulty, especially when you start dealing with opposing mages.

Well yeah, I'm fully aware that the game becomes harder as you go, what I was confused about is someone saying I'm "doing it wrong" because it hadn't yet.

 

[ZeroMachine]

It is a pause n' play style game. That is just the way it is.

Care to elaborate?

I've tried to make full use of the tactical pausing however it doesn't seem to work any better than simply clicking on a dude and waiting until he's dead.

Crank the difficulty up. If normal is too easy, just try hard or nightmare.

 

[binvjoh]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

I disagree. I've found the combat in both Fallout 3/New Vegas and World of Warcraft very satisfying.

 

[JimmyC99]

Later on, you learn a very nice rule of thumb about DA:O, at least it was for me, ALLWAYS have a Tank, ALLWAYS have a Healer (Wynne Plays this Perfectly), and AllWAY Primary Mages (or Demons, anything that cast spells these guys are a pain in the ass, and can devastate you) make sure you DPS guys don't go of and do something stupid like agroing the Entire settlement and all its friends, i wasn't watching them for 5 seconds and shit hit the fan, still won though (Go Go Gadget Wynne), things get interesting when there 30+ low level mobs to carve through.

 

[ZtH]

I disagree. I've found the combat in both Fallout 3/New Vegas and World of Warcraft very satisfying.

I'm inclined to agree, unless you're playing a Warlock in WoW. My first character was a warlock and god he was boring to level. It was either apply dots, wait for enemy to die or apply dots, use fear, wait for enemy to die.

Until I started doing dungeons. Keeping DoTs up on 6+ enemies is way more challenging and fun, and micromanaging your pet becomes important.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

Holy shit, you're wrong on every god damned level possible.

I found Oblivion's gameplay to be awesome. Same with Fallout 3. And Dragon Age. And WoW. And the SWTOR demo I got to play. And Starcraft. And guess what? Millions of people agree with me.

So yeah, it's very rare that I say this, but you're just outright wrong.

 

[faspxina]

Switch to casual and play it like a Hack'N'Slash.

 

[ZtH]

Later on, you learn a very nice rule of thumb about DA:O, at least it was for me, ALLWAYS have a Tank, ALLWAYS have a Healer (Wynne Plays this Perfectly), and AllWAY Primary Mages (or Demons, anything that cast spells these guys are a pain in the ass, and can devastate you) make sure you DPS guys don't go of and do something stupid like agroing the Entire settlement and all its friends, i wasn't watching them for 5 seconds and shit hit the fan, still won though (Go Go Gadget Wynne), things get interesting when there 30+ low level mobs to carve through.

Haha I once had my archer built Leliana run into the center of a large group of angry darkspawn in order to use Dirty Fighting. She slipped past me because she was behind the rest of my party and the camera was facing the other way and she managed to go around the fight without me noticing. Needless to say I immediately changed her tactics around because that was retarded.

 

[mr.mystery]

Loved DA

 

[Macrobstar]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

How can one post be so wrong? It hurts my brain to think about it

 

[ZeroMachine]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

How can one post be so wrong? It hurts my brain to think about it

My thoughts exactly.

The guy is so freakin' jaded. I feel like he payed for every game that got a five star rating and when he found out he didn't like RPGs (or Starcraft, I guess) he was scarred for life and declared a vendetta against reviewers.

It'd make a hell of a movie...

 

[binvjoh]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

How can one post be so wrong? It hurts my brain to think about it

My thoughts exactly.

The guy is so freakin' jaded. I feel like he payed for every game that got a five star rating and when he found out he didn't like RPGs (or Starcraft, I guess) he was scarred for life and declared a vendetta against reviewers.

It'd make a hell of a movie...

Save yourselves and don't look at his/her other posts.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

How can one post be so wrong? It hurts my brain to think about it

Just don't. Save yourself the pain and just hit the ignore button.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins (Ultimate Edition) during the EA sale on Steam since I'm a big Mass Effect fan and figured I'd like it. I've now played for a bit and I'm currently on my way to light the beacon during the battle at Ostagar and I'm really not enjoying myself.

Now, I have a fair share of other problems with the game but what's by far the biggest thorn in my side is the combat. It's just so incredibly dull and in no way satisfying, to me it feels like somebody took World of Warcraft and and slowed it down to a quarter of the speed. Did anyone else feel like this? Does it get better later?

I'm playing a Warrior, using two-handed weapons and I'm on normal difficulty.

I'll be honest with you. I stopped my original run through of the game because the combat just becomes SO DAMN repetitive, that I couldn't take it anymore.

There is a point in the game, the dwarven area (I'm trying to avoid spoilers) where the game turns into 3 months worth of WoW grinding packed into ONE region. It is horrendous.

So here's what I suggest. Read this [http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Console_%28Origins%29] to learn how to activate Dev console. When (not if, when) the game turns into a tedious grindfest, just use the Console code that Kills all enemies in the room. Doesn't work for some bosses, far as I can tell. But you'll skip a LOT of worthless fighting. And don't feel bad about cheating. It was Bioware's fault for putting WAY too much combat into this game.

However my last advice: DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT abandon this game, like I almost did. The story (especially near the end) is just excellent. Nearly every line of dialogue is well-written and well-executed. This is the only game I've seen where your choices will effect EVERYTHING. It truly is a masterpiece.....once you're done killing 3000 useless darkspawn to see it

 

[ZeroMachine]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

How can one post be so wrong? It hurts my brain to think about it

My thoughts exactly.

The guy is so freakin' jaded. I feel like he payed for every game that got a five star rating and when he found out he didn't like RPGs (or Starcraft, I guess) he was scarred for life and declared a vendetta against reviewers.

It'd make a hell of a movie...

Save yourselves and don't look at his/her other posts.

Oh GOD, he's the "DRM is working" guy O_O

I'm just gonna leave now. Fairwell!

 

[Casimir_Effect]

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins (Ultimate Edition) during the EA sale on Steam since I'm a big Mass Effect fan and figured I'd like it. I've now played for a bit and I'm currently on my way to light the beacon during the battle at Ostagar and I'm really not enjoying myself.

Now, I have a fair share of other problems with the game but what's by far the biggest thorn in my side is the combat. It's just so incredibly dull and in no way satisfying, to me it feels like somebody took World of Warcraft and and slowed it down to a quarter of the speed. Did anyone else feel like this? Does it get better later?

I'm playing a Warrior, using two-handed weapons and I'm on normal difficulty.

Combat for DA is more strategy based than action. At the start the game is pretty slow, but from where you are onwards it starts to get more difficult by teaching you about rushing their mage, picking your targets and using skills to maximum effect. If you're actually finding it really easy then whack the difficulty up to make it trickier.

The later game revolves more around the characters and skill-sets you've constructed, requiring you to manage your team the best way possible in order to overcome some of the games harder battles.

The bottom line is that with Dragon Age (and games like Baldur's Gate) your reflexes and aim will never come into things. Instead it's about tactics, planning, forward thinking etc. If you don't enjoy this then that's fine, doesn't mean anything except you prefer action in your games. I'd recommend you stick with it for a while. Like all Bioware games the combat is second to the story and characters, both of which you've barely encountered. Things only really get going after Ostagar.

 

[Macrobstar]

Role Playing = A game based around story over game play.
MMO RPG = A game based on reading quests over gameplay.

RPGs and MMOs have 0 gameplay i dont know why people buy them and expect to be entertained by the actual game.

Yes fallouts gameplay is bad
Yes oblivion gameplay is bad

The reviewers are payed off so if you got it because of the rating then sucks to be you.
It kinda reminds me of the starcraft review on this forum "After playing the whole game while only paying $60 it feels like im ripping blizzard off"

Ya funny but i didnt see anything good about starcraft other then the unneeded point and click of the ship, But hey they made me download it from blizzard what can i say, reviewers are a good investment give them a computer and they will be saying your game is better then sex

How can one post be so wrong? It hurts my brain to think about it

My thoughts exactly.

The guy is so freakin' jaded. I feel like he payed for every game that got a five star rating and when he found out he didn't like RPGs (or Starcraft, I guess) he was scarred for life and declared a vendetta against reviewers.

It'd make a hell of a movie...

Hahaha waking up in a cold sweat dreaming of all those people who enjoy RPGs

 

[Hawgh]

Yeah, the animations of origins are dull, clunky and uninteresting.
It does kinda get better later, as you get new abilities. As you may have noticed, the abilities have a significantly more polished look, and as you get more, they constitute a greater deal of the combat. So, more abilites results in an overall more immersive combat experience. But it never gets really good.

P.S.
Expansion actually manages to look a good deal better, most of the time(also has a more interesting story). If you find Origins to be worth it, Awakening is definitely for you.