cobrausn said:
Amnestic said:
I can note, with a certain degree of smug satisfaction, that England+Wales is second lowest for firearm homicide rates per 100,000. Second only to Singapore.
I don't care about firearm homicide rates, only total. Firearms are a tool. If you have less of them, less of them will get used; it doesn't make you 'less violent' and therefore 'better'. Apparently it makes you smug though.
Also, the demographics of England+Wales is hardly comparable to nearly anywhere here, so of course your crime rate will be lower. Why don't we ship a few MS13 thugs over there and we'll see what happens to your crime rate and your smugness.
I thought we were questioning the term "rampant gun culture"? The number of firearm homicide rates seems fairly important when we're talking about
gun culture to me. I might be crazy living in my castle in England (an actual castle, not one defined by the Castle Doctrine) but when we're questioning the use of guns, gun-related homicide rates seems important.
And why would we ship
your criminals over here? It's not like we made them. How is it our fault that your culture(s) has a tendency to promote gangs? According to the wiki, MS13 grew up out of Los Angeles. I'm unsure of why you would even think of deporting American citizens to England, but that sounds quite illegal to me.
Plus our prisons are already pretty much full so we'd have no where to put them.