Drunken Father Kills Son, Missing Videogame Blamed

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Bob the Average said:
Hold on you mention 'rampant gun culture' as a potential cause, while it is tragic that someone died the gun is not at fault. I can assure you the gun did not Posses him and make him shoot his son. if he didn't have a gun he would have probably got a knife from the kitchen or just put up his fists.
But you would have to agree that if he put up his fist and hit his son once he may have come to his senses and would have stopped, and the boy would still be alive. When you have a gun all it takes is one little squeeze of the trigger and it's over and done.

It's a lot harder to go through with killing someone with your bare hands than to shot a little piece of metal at them. I don't believe he would have gone through with actually killing the boy if it weren't for the gun. Maybe he would have, we'll never know now, though.
 

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cobrausn said:
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I can note, with a certain degree of smug satisfaction, that England+Wales is second lowest for firearm homicide rates per 100,000. Second only to Singapore.
I don't care about firearm homicide rates, only total. Firearms are a tool. If you have less of them, less of them will get used; it doesn't make you 'less violent' and therefore 'better'. Apparently it makes you smug though.

Also, the demographics of England+Wales is hardly comparable to nearly anywhere here, so of course your crime rate will be lower. Why don't we ship a few MS13 thugs over there and we'll see what happens to your crime rate and your smugness.
I thought we were questioning the term "rampant gun culture"? The number of firearm homicide rates seems fairly important when we're talking about gun culture to me. I might be crazy living in my castle in England (an actual castle, not one defined by the Castle Doctrine) but when we're questioning the use of guns, gun-related homicide rates seems important.

And why would we ship your criminals over here? It's not like we made them. How is it our fault that your culture(s) has a tendency to promote gangs? According to the wiki, MS13 grew up out of Los Angeles. I'm unsure of why you would even think of deporting American citizens to England, but that sounds quite illegal to me.

Plus our prisons are already pretty much full so we'd have no where to put them.
 

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These are the assholes we don't want. Ruining our reputation. Also, The Houston Chronicle? That's nice of them, rubbing half a ton of refreshing healing salt on our wound.
 

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samsonguy920 said:
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What videogame was it? That's what I want to know.
Why does it matter? It's really irrelevant.
Not really. It was probably like a Mario game or something, but they left it out because they wanted people to think it was GTA, etc.
 

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Pendragon9 said:
Stupid drunkard. Whatever was going through his mind while he was wasted, it could never justify murder. It never does.

I hope he rots in jail. And hopefully he can PUT DOWN THE BEER. It caused the shooting, not the game. I mean, come on.
While I don't deny that, there's no point stereotyping people who drink if you're going against sterotyping gamers, it's just MORE STEREOTYPING!
 
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Texas. Drunk. Murder.

That's the headline, story and sentence right there.

If we're to believe the media representation, we could just drop that to "Texas".
 

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killer-corkonian said:
Amnestic said:
I might be crazy living in my castle in England (an actual castle, not one defined by the Castle Doctrine)
Holy FUCK. A castle?
I was making a very unclear reference to an Eddie Izzard joke. I don't actually live in a castle.

Or...do I?
 

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Amnestic said:
killer-corkonian said:
Amnestic said:
I might be crazy living in my castle in England (an actual castle, not one defined by the Castle Doctrine)
Holy FUCK. A castle?
I was making a very unclear reference to an Eddie Izzard joke. I don't actually live in a castle.

Or...do I?
I sincerely hope not, or we're all doomed. The moment your army of hypnotised butlers comes out of the door, there's no stopping you.
 

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Malygris said:
Drunken Father Kills Son, Missing Videogame Blamed
This, I suppose, is the point at which I'm supposed to take the conventional news media to task for making this killing about videogames. So let's do that: The Houston Chronicle [http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6685584.html] headline - "Houston Dad Killed Son Over Videogame" - makes the act sound like some kind of psychotic payback for too many ass-kickings in Mortal Kombat rather than what it really is: A drunken scumbag with a gun and a "prior criminal history" who finally took his abusive behavior too far.
The headline is an eye-grabber, but I still read it as "Look, this asshole killed his son over a videogame!", underscoring the ridiculousness of it all. Following the links to the page in the houston chronicle, I don't see a single line blaming the videogame itself. The fact is stated that yes, dad killed the kid over a videogame. I think there's a little overreaction here.

...not a rampant gun culture...
My my, quick to point fingers, aren't we? Blaming the game is wrong, but blaming guns is A-OK?
 

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Wowzers. Can you say that the dad was obsessed with video games?

That's sad, But also cool that his name was ignacio. Like on Nacho Libre ! That movie was so retardedly funny.
 

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Im taking this thread to the next level.

If It would have been weed instead of alcohol, he would have just settled for infomercials and a week old baguette from the kitchen.

The argument would have gone more like this:

Abusive Dad (Now on Weed): Wheres my video game, man?

Wife: I sold it so we could afford this house.

Abusive Dad (Still on Weed): O...Ok man, pass the butter!

Dad then proceeds to snicker, eat hard slices of bread, and pass out watching Billy Mays.

-Jive
 

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Krakyn said:
What videogame was it? That's what I want to know. If it was my copy of Nintendo World Championships: Gold Edition, the murder could possibly be justified.
How cute, lets crack a joke about how good a video game is as a comment for a real murder story


Anyway, what people don't get is that these video games don't CAUSE violence, these people are ALREADY crazy, I mean hell, if the dad lost his leather wallet, and got mad, and he was crazy and killed the kid, would they say: "LEATHER CAUSES MURDEROUS VIOLENCE! WE MUST STOP SELLING LEATHER WALLETS!!!"
 

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Apparently they updated the article and changed the headline so that it now states
"Bond doubled for Houston man accused of killing son
Man surrendered after three-hour standoff"

if they changed it simply because of the new info or because it was a poor decision for a title is still debatable
 

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Alchohol+ guns = bad things for crazies. Yet many people get drunk, not many shoot their children with guns in texas. this guy was not an outstanding citizen until the alcohol made him crazy and the gun pulled its own trigger, he was a f'd up dude to begin with. 3 hour standoff's with the police are a good sign of decaying mental health.

WE cant blame the videogames, they didnt cause this. But it's perfectly fine to blame different inanimate objects, like guns and alcohol.
Idiots in cars kill THOUSANDS more than guns, and last time I checked, cars were not even MENTIONED as a protected right. I hereby push for public transportation only, and to ban civilian-owned cars. the death rate would plummet, and we'd be leaving driving up to the trained proffessionals. Sounds perfect right? :)
 

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my BS news article is tingeling! they are probaly gonna make a BS news story that shit like this only happens with video games
 

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I agree with Malygris the video game didn't matter it could have been anything. The murder or a murder probaly would have happened soon anyway, sounds like achohol just greased the wheels for that man.
sad stuff really.
 

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The media blamed video games again! OMG.



OT:Of course they did! Its becoming a habit now.

"New story! Someone died. What a shame" Media Guy

"Indeed sir" Media Pawn

"Did they play video games?" Media Guy

"Yes they did sir. And it was one of the reasons for this." Media Pawn

"You know what to do. Initiate Video Game Protocol"

"Sir we found a traitor." Media Pawn Guard

"Video Games aren't to blame! They're not!" Guy from Escapist

"You know what to do" Media Guy

Media Pawn Guard ready's min-gun that has flamethrower.

"You can't be serio- OMFG!!!!!!!"

*Gets obliterated by the mini-gun.

"Good work." Media Guy

As you can see. This is typical media behaviour.