E3: Nintendo's New Console Is: The Wii U

Fursnake

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It should be called the PiiU because it looks like a stinker.

Prolonged use of WiiU controller can cuase side effects including hand cramps, arthritis, muscle fatigue, droopy head syndrome, ADD, BNS, double vision, wandering eyes, inability to focus, loss of depth perception, sweating, headaches, nasuea, genital warts, bleeding gums, ear leakage and discharge, gas with oily discharge, and/or a general desire to go back to playing the Wii, PS3, Xbox 360, the PC or any other gaming platform that does not have such a gimmicky, unfun looking monstrosity of a controller.
 

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Eternal_Lament said:
funguy2121 said:
Eternal_Lament said:
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Mr.Mattress said:
Delusibeta said:
Yes, there will be a console to go with that controller. [http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/htwfy/new_nintendo_console_wii_u_fact_sheet/]

Also, prices similar to current PS3 and 360 prices, says Reggie.
That did it for me! If this console is gonna be 200-300 dollars at launch, with Super Smash Bros WiiU as a launch title, then you can bet your sweet bippy that I will buy this ASAP!
That would be sick. Now if those controllers are only 40$ I'm totally sold on this. Sony and Microsoft really have to do something to change my mind on the WiiU (and copying it isn't going to cut it).
I can assure you that if Nintendo sells these controllers at $40 each then either a) they will lose money 'snap' just like that, or b) they'll be making a profit on controller sales, meaning that the controllers are actually pretty sketchy and probably no-where near as functional as they show it to be.

These controllers are basically tablets: this isn't an insult or saying its worthless (well, technically worthless to me since I'm not planning on getting this), its a simple fact based on the tech on display. If Nintendo doesn't sell these controllers at $200-300, they'd be losing money with each controller sale, because that's how much a tablet like this would cost to make. As I said before, chances are the console will cost between $400-600 (combine price of current day gaming tech [$200-300] with one controller [$200-300]), and assuming you wish to buy 3 more controllers (based on what Nintendo has shown, this console is definitely aimed at people who live with or frequently meet with other people, which would warrent more controllers) this can easily be a $1000-1500 investment. Not to say that you will need to save up a grand for WiiU's release, but chances are you may need to if you want to get the full effect of what Nintendo is advertising.
Why won't any of the complainers on this thread spend 120 seconds to look things up before they start bitching?

Gaming journos have tested and reviewed the controller. They've interacted with the console and spoken to the developers. The system will support up to 4 wii remotes in addition to the tablet and most of the multiplayer games shouldn't require more than 1 tablet. The system will cost about as much as the PS3 and 360 cost now.

All of these longwinded statements are of no value if you don't understand what you're talking about. You took the time to compose a large paragraph; why not take a few more seconds to look into what you're discussing?
Ok, thanks for letting me know all that. I still think though the tablets themselves are going to cost alot (unless they released a price for those yet, which I've yet to see be posted). Also, small question: Perhaps this was answered in the same article where the price was being compared, but when they said the system was about as much as as 360 or PS3, did they say "The system will come with a tablet controller and will be priced about as much as a 360 and PS3" or "The cost of making this system is about the same as making a 360 or PS3"? One deals with final price, the other though deals with simple cost to make, which doesn't always translate to the expense to the consumer. Sorry about asking this, my connection up here is going on and off up here, so its hard for me to find anything right now. I'd be surprised if this went through
Nintendo lies as much as any other company in gaming, usually when they're not ready to reveal a game or a peripheral just yet, but they have never, ever produced an overpriced console, and every single system that they've created has been released with all of the necessary accessories for out-of-box play, including whatever controller they advertise most for the system. Wii came with the Wii Remote and a nunchuck, Gamecube came with its innovative controller, and the Wii U will ship with this. And it won't cost more than $50 more than the cheaper PS3s and 360s right now.

In fact, here's my prediction. It'll come with an A/V cable, an AC adaptor, perhaps the hi-def multi outputs as well, a minigame collection along the same lines as wii sports or else internal software like the 3DS shipped with, the tablet controller and its battery and charger, and possibly the AC adaptor for the tablet. This will be the basic setup, based on Nintendo's history. There will of course be bundles aplenty.
 

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I don't know if you noticed, but the IPad and gaming on the IPad are becoming increasingly popular. Is it any surprise that Nintendo is moving on that trend instead of building an xbox clone?

Nintendo's biggest competition is Apple. NOT Sony & Microsoft.
And their solution to this was too build an iPad right into the controller? Which by its description is still a controller and is portable only within the confines of ones house. (or however far the streaming range is) If they wanted to make an iPad like handheld with the power of a console they should have gone ahead and made that instead of the 3DS.

Frankly I think the controller looks like it could be a perfectly acceptable handheld console were it to be a standalone item, but it's not; its got a home console system tethered to it for god only knows what reason. In the home console market Nintendo's competition is still Microsoft and Sony, because last I checked Apple had not yet released a home console. If competing with Apple on serious level was their goal they would have released a stand alone, hand held console that was just as good if not better than the iPad. I know they could do it too, and do it damned cheaply if they wanted to give Apple a run for it's money.

Instead, however, they've decided to go ahead and do their damndest too fill the casual gaming/shovelware market; because they know they couldn't compete with Microsoft and Sony without jacking up the prices on their hardware. What would be the point of that when there are two other companies to compete with in the market. Two companies, might I add, that soundly dominated Nintendo in the pre-Wii generation. Nintendo did what any smart company would do, they took the path of least resistance and won big. Sales wise Nintendo soundly crushed both Sony and Microsoft very early in the current generation of consoles. Once again they sat atop the pile because they adapted.

Did that adaptation mean that the quality of their product went up? I would say no, and that it in fact went down the shitter. Very few of the third party titles on the Wii don't suck or aren't shovelware. It's made hand over fist in money but it's neglected to keep it's gaming infrastructure up to par with the quality of Microsoft and Sony. There was no reason to, it found itself an isolated vacuum of zero competition in a yet tapped market of gaming.

Then Apple came in during the course of the Wii's life span and is looking for a piece of Nintendo's pie. It brings with it the advantage of mobility and multifunctional products in the iPhone and iPad. What's Nintendo got at the moment; the quickly aging DS brand that it's making an attempt to breath new life into with the 3DS and the newly announced WiiU. Neither of those has a prayer of ever competing with Apple for the casual gaming market.

The WiiU is proof that Nintendo now finds itself conflicted. What was once a competitor free market is now quickly becoming populated and it doesn't like that. Now it's trying to bring back the non-casual gamers with WiiU by making a compromise between motion controls, portable gaming, and your traditional controller. It is, without a shadow of doubt, an ungodly mess of a console. It's the dissertation that's been quickly assembled when Nintendo realized they've done fuck all for the last 5 years while the other kids have been keeping pace and now sit comfortably upon well established systems and online communities.

Nintendo woke up and realized it needed to get it shit together, and unfortunately the WiiU is the result of that realization. I have zero doubt that it is going to suck and it is going suck hard because Nintendo let its quality control slip. Where the Wii succeeded because of an untapped market the WiiU is going to fail because it is no longer alone in that market and will have to acquire customers from the market it left because it couldn't compete anymore.

Apple isn't who they should be worried about competing with, they lost that battle while the Wii stagnated in its facade of inovation. Nintendo needs to worry about competing with it's old competitors, a group it was having trouble keeping up with before 5 years ago, and the WiiU is just not going to cut it.
 

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How the fuck are you suppose to hold that thing? Why are they analog "circles"? This is obsiously not for core gaming or shooters. More shovelware on the way...
 

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bismarck55 said:
Goldhawk777 said:
The Nintendo company has not created a new console. They have created a new accessory for your television. The games.....let them pass, but the idea of putting images from the "controller" to the screen is an interesting concept. Unfortunately, I can easily see some one using the Wii to play music and some movie on the screen and BAM! Someone looks up porn and throws it on the television. Ahhh. It's similar to the early uses of the PS3, BlueRay player.
"the nintendo company" Has created a new console, it looks like a 360. The Wii-U streams images to the controller, not the other way around. Because that makes no sense and would be fucking retarded.

I mean seriously, did you really think that they could pack enough hardware to play, say, Battlefield 3 into that controller?
Wrong, I know the image comes from the wii U, but with it attached to your television, you can move images from controller to television. Never said that the images come randomly from the controller. But you clearly missed the point of my post, it states that it does not look like fun, it just looks like another accessory for your television.
 

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RUINER ACTUAL said:
How the fuck are you suppose to hold that thing?
I think they had something like this in mind:



RUINER ACTUAL said:
Why are they analog "circles"?
Because they look better on the pad. They're just as accurate as analog sticks, so now people are just arguing trivialities of design.

RUINER ACTUAL said:
This is obsiously not for core gaming or shooters.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain that isn't locked into "must be the same to be usable" mode will see that this is perfectly capable of playing any type of game. You know, given the appropriate shoulder buttons, triggers and the analogs, d-pad and face buttons.

RUINER ACTUAL said:
More shovelware on the way...
Hooray for generalisations taken from a stunted view of a device only unveiled a day or two ago. Plus every console has shovelware.
 

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Question: if you're playing a game that uses both the TV and the controller screen, someone wants to watch TV and you send the game to the controller, what happens to the information that was on the controller screen?

does that info just vanish or become a traditional pause menu?
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
RUINER ACTUAL said:
How the fuck are you suppose to hold that thing?
I think they had something like this in mind:



RUINER ACTUAL said:
Why are they analog "circles"?
Because they look better on the pad. They're just as accurate as analog sticks, so now people are just arguing trivialities of design.

RUINER ACTUAL said:
This is obsiously not for core gaming or shooters.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain that isn't locked into "must be the same to be usable" mode will see that this is perfectly capable of playing any type of game. You know, given the appropriate shoulder buttons, triggers and the analogs, d-pad and face buttons.

RUINER ACTUAL said:
More shovelware on the way...
Hooray for generalisations taken from a stunted view of a device only unveiled a day or two ago. Plus every console has shovelware.
Ok then. Current controllers cost $60. This thing won't cost less than $100. And since its built for party gaming, that's a lot of money if you want four controllers. Unless all that tech they have in it comes down in price drastically in the next 18 months. Also, it's already obsolete. Pretty sure the PSVita is going to be doing stuff like this with the PS3 THIS YEAR. So congradulations Nintendo for not getting it.

Also...wiiuwiiuwiiu!!!

 

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Wii U? Weeeeaaauuuuwww!!! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JElywbkSbY]

Edit: Crap! Beat to the punch!

But seriously: everyone who wants to play a party game has to use a controller equiv of a PDA? Talk abut cost prohibitive :/

Also, if Nintendo has been working on this since 2008, not only did Apple come out with it first, they also did it better :p Not that I use Apple products (quite the opposite, actually), but there you go.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks Movie Bob wasn't far off with his crazy idea about Nitendo's next control? Huh? Huh?!
 

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archabaddon said:
Wii U? Weeeeaaauuuuwww!!! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JElywbkSbY]

Edit: Crap! Beat to the punch!

But seriously: everyone who wants to play a party game has to use a controller equiv of a PDA? Talk abut cost prohibitive :/

Also, if Nintendo has been working on this since 2008, not only did Apple come out with it first, they also did it better :p Not that I use Apple products (quite the opposite, actually), but there you go.
You were beaten to the punch about 500 times to the point where I now want to kick you in the testicles for even trying to make that gag any more. It's almost as bad as the toilet humour.

And Apple didn't come out with it first. Wanna know why? This isn't a tablet! It's a controller with touch-screen functionality in it that hooks up a HD games console. I'm hoping you just failed to mention this cause if you genuinely didn't know that yet are arguing against this console, I'll have to turn that kick in the testicles into the kick, plus more to the ribs when you're on the floor.

P.S: Apologies for the potential anger of this post, I've just spent the better part of an hour arguing with my Sony-and-Apple dumbfuck stubborn fanboy of a brother.
 

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RUINER ACTUAL said:
ReservoirAngel said:
RUINER ACTUAL said:
How the fuck are you suppose to hold that thing?
I think they had something like this in mind:



RUINER ACTUAL said:
Why are they analog "circles"?
Because they look better on the pad. They're just as accurate as analog sticks, so now people are just arguing trivialities of design.

RUINER ACTUAL said:
This is obsiously not for core gaming or shooters.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain that isn't locked into "must be the same to be usable" mode will see that this is perfectly capable of playing any type of game. You know, given the appropriate shoulder buttons, triggers and the analogs, d-pad and face buttons.

RUINER ACTUAL said:
More shovelware on the way...
Hooray for generalisations taken from a stunted view of a device only unveiled a day or two ago. Plus every console has shovelware.
Ok then. Current controllers cost $60. This thing won't cost less than $100. And since its built for party gaming, that's a lot of money if you want four controllers. Unless all that tech they have in it comes down in price drastically in the next 18 months. Also, it's already obsolete. Pretty sure the PSVita is going to be doing stuff like this with the PS3 THIS YEAR. So congradulations Nintendo for not getting it.

Also...wiiuwiiuwiiu!!!

I don't think anyone's going to spend 250-300$ for a Vita to use as a controller for WiiU-like games. Also, just because Sony might be doing the same thing doesn't mean Nintendo doesn't "get it". If anything Sony didn't get why I didn't buy a psp the first time and second analog sticks wasn't the reason.
 

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WiiU? I was hoping for so much more than the Wii U. What's after that one then? The WiiUii?
Wii U2 wich will have U2's entire song collection playing on the main menu.
 

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Fronzel said:
riverand said:
~the controller is a whole new experience in console gaming. I give props for thinking outside of the box (AGAIN)
So how long have you been working for marketing at Nintendo?

Are the hours good?
Perhaps I over-gushed. My brother was ashamed of my outburst.

I'm a teacher on medical leave WITHOUT PAY: hours are great, pay sucks :p

Total transparency - one of the things I do love about that controller is that it would be really helpful for me with my limited vision. Not a popular plus, but would make this girl happy and less headachy while gaming!
B-)
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
You were beaten to the punch about 500 times to the point where I now want to kick you in the testicles for even trying to make that gag any more. It's almost as bad as the toilet humour.
 

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The parallels drawn between the Wii launch and the Wii U launch are startling. Upon the Wii reveal Nintendo's shares fell through the floor and the hardcore gaming gang came out proclaiming that the Wii was a fad and would die. They were wrong.
This time is no different with the usual mix of die hard Nintendo fans worshiping the new console and the PS360 crowd talking it down.
Taking away the ridiculous "Nintendo cannot be wrong"/PS360 rules arguement I think its safe to say that we have a console on our hands which combines the best features of both the hardcore gamers ideal and the casual gamers ideal.
Surely the mass market penetration that casual gamers bring to the table can only benefit the hardcore gamer in terms of available funds for developing games?

By the way, the industry is now a mature medium. All those who are fanboys and post messages with contents like "I was going to get this console but now I can see its going to be rubbish", everyone can see through your infantile propaganda and are laughing at you.