EA Exec: Xbox One and PS4 Are "A Generation Ahead" Of PC

[Denamic]

Maybe right this instant the PS4 and XBone are more powerful than gaming PC's (right this moment as I type)

Not even close.
I've semi-expensive, kinda new computer components, so I'm on a high-end machine, but it's still far from the highest tier of gaming hardware. My machine has literally more than twice as much power in almost every manner that matters than both the PS4 and xbox 3. Compared to real high-end machines, the difference is so large that it's not even funny.

 

[carlh267]

Just posting to say that this thread seems to have brought together the trifecta of gaming. PC/PS/XB gamers alike are all banding together to call this guy an idiot.

Now we know that all that was needed to bring us together in one big happy family group hug was an EA douche spouting crap.

THANKS EA! xoxox


/CAPTCHA - Fezes are cool ---- Yes....yes they are

But... but... what about Wii U?

Anyway, pre-launch hype and free publicity for EA. Nothing to see here.

 

[Xarathox]

Excuse me while I sit over here trying not to hyperventilate from laughing so hard.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

I'm not so sure about this, because he's talking about both the Xbox1 and the PS4. And if there's anything Sony or Microsoft hate more than PC gaming, it's each other, so neither one of them would give a bribe which also promotes the competitor's console. To me this reeks more of in-house marketing, whereby EA is trying to push its own games on the new consoles, since console copies are far more expensive than those for the PC, but production costs are roughly equivalent.
Whatever the case, Chalk is right when he says that you shouldn't trust someone on the basis of credentials alone, not if they don't then produce hard evidence to support their claims.

I know, I was just riding a X-Bone Hate Train when I posted that. >_<

 

[DjinnFor]

Console tax.

Publisher tax.

Retail "encouragement" to put your game on the front shelf.

So, AAA games are usually $10 more on consoles, and downloadable indies are like $3-5 more? Yeah, we knew that already, it's quite a transparent feature of the market. Consoles themselves are always discounted in price; Sony and MS sell at almost no profit on the consoles and make it up via game sales and pay-to-use features like XBOX Live and Playstation Plus.

Trying to say consoles have "overhead" is absurd when they're mass-manufactured and sold almost at manufacturing cost.

 

[The Lugz]

This is clearly aimed at the part of Console owners who don't know much about PC's and gaming rigs in particular. Everybody who knows even a little bit about gaming PC's can see that his claim is not true now and much less so 2 years down the road.

If he would have said ahed of "average PC's" that might be at least somewhat near the truth, but ahed of "highest-end PC's" thats just plain false.

I get that he says that for the benefit of the part of the console fandom who know nothing of PC's, but blatantly lying seems somewhat stupid.

Well, as you say there's selling the dream and then there's just plain lying

it's a little like car manufacturers time traveling, look it's the 2027 edition ford focus with a new sticker and bumper BUY IT YOU FOOLZ!!!!

they're essentially trying to sell you the holodek in a small box that costs less than £1k and that just isn't going to happen..

i'll post a few simple tech specs for those un-initiated, and you can see the utter absurdity..

gpu:

capable of producing 1080p at 30fps, along with the processing overheads required for 3D as well. Rumours of an 7000-series AMD GPU
(does 4k, old rumour is old. )

AMD recently revealed the Radeon HD 7790 graphics card, which is highly likely to form the basis of the next Xbox's GPU. It uses a redesigned chip architecture, something AMD would never normally roll out for a mid-range card half way through its life cycle, and matches many of the leaked specifications mentioned by the Durango development kit documentation

in other-words, it's a mid/high end pc. but it cant be better than enthusiast pc's that have two of these same cards
( in fact they aren't even that good, mine is 4x better in every measurable metric.. ) so on the graphics side, no it's just plain slower, smaller and lower res.

firstly, 30 fps is a joke. 1080p is extremely mainstream. give me 120 hz at 2k and i'll be willing to call it a draw
but in fact pc's are often pushing the 400 mhz limit of dvi cables at 144hz on multiple monitors these days.
#Edit, yes apparently it does have 4k good good. but no word on anything 30+ fps?

a pc can stock 200 gb of ram if someone wants, a console has 8 ( in the case of the ps4, microsoft are too shy to say. )
#Edit, yep ms have the same.

a pc can have 16 full processors running at 5ghz heck, if you really want to spend the megabucks, go buy 2× 16-core AMD Opteron 6272 processors and slot them into a workstation and roflcopter at your 32 cpu cores.. yes.. really.
( or something newer, cant be assed looking it up )

the xbox running an emulator in a software environment to run games on a second environment to translate one half of the operating system to the other... ohmygoodness!?!? frankly i'm confused by the layers of abstraction present in the 'Xbo' it seems excessive and will probably cause latency flicking through them but what do i know? time will tell.
that's the software architecture, and you know how well that worked out for sony's cell system last gen...

I could go on, but the comment is so ludicrous it digs it's own grave, so i'll quit wasting my time.

and yes i know technical ability does not equal gameplay, but this industry troll says it'll 'outgun' high end pc's? not a hope in hell. and consoles have been a generation behind for the last 3 years at least so bs to that too.

and for the future? well a cheap, low power pc is never going to beat an expensive high power pc and if it does there are serious problems. ( ie, deliberate sabotage )

'sigh'
youknow a world with actually REALLY top notch consoles would be fantastic. i'd buy one.

TLDR: pure stupidity, and it's a total lie.

 

[ThunderCavalier]

Son of a...

I don't even LIKE the PC Master Race and I know that PCs could kick the crap out of consoles. If not initially, then in a year or so.

 

[The Lugz]

Mircosoft and Sony: "Oh dear. I dropped a few grand into your wallet. Silly Me!"

They need to get out of this mentality that all PC Gamers have some gray desktop from 1999.

There, fixed that for you

OT: While it's true that these consoles are going to be far more powerful than most people expect... they're probably not going to pass the highest PC's on the market right now.

Yes!, system on chip is a real technology with many real speed benefits but one of those benefits is not quantum computing or even a new performance per watt benchmark ( although it will be very efficient, and run much cooler than previous consoles )

 

[Fenra]

Thanks for the laugh, really needed that, good one.... wait your not.... oh come on!

 

[Triality]

EA Exec announces he was able to fit his entire head up his own asshole. Film at 11.

 

[Siege_TF]

This is E.A., also known as The Devil, who can only speak lies and as such it's a recommendation in disguise to buy a gaming PC because the next generation is already archaic.

 

[DjinnFor]

i'll post a few simple tech specs for those un-initiated, and you can see the utter absurdity..

The only utter absurdities here are the following:

1. The fact that you think posting "tech specs" makes you look like one of the "initiated". Newsflash: the actual initiated know you're a poser. Come back to me when you've built a couple rigs and have experienced first hand how little those specs actually mean for actual performance.
2. That you either a) didn't read the article or the press release at all, or b) didn't understand it. Apparently cutting edge architecture design is equivalent to "flying cars" and "holodecks for less than £1k". I guess the idea that a company that sells electronics, and another that designs the most widely used operating system in the world, might know a thing or two about good hardware design escapes you. And lets not even talk about how an integrated, compact, stable platform mass-manufactured and sold at cost might have some room for cost-efficiency advantages over a rig built by combining standardized, generalized, premium-priced modules.

 

[PunkRex]

Way to rattle the monkey cage. -_-

If you'll excuse me, I'll be in my bunker and wait until the ensuing blast is over.

Can I come, I have sandwiches?

 

[Charli]

After the night I've had I'm not even touching this one.

Ha ha.

Good night.

 

[CyberMachinist]

His words.... they are just too painfully delicious...... for laughing at.

Well it's been proven, the EA officers really know how to put the "Bad" in "Bad Company"

So would it be appropriate to categorize everyone of these so-called business "Savvy" men who have been spouting their "Enlightening knowledge" *cough*Garbage*cough* about the games industry all these years into a an easier to remember group of sorts?

I even have a name for them, Malicious. Underdeveloped. League. of Evil.


Captcha: These parts..... have debatable performance when compared to a an average PC.

(How do you bold letters?)

 

[Erttheking]

Really? My fucking laptop has twice the RAM that the Xbone does.

Jesus Christ, it feels like EA and Microsoft live in their own little fantasy world.

 

[TheEvilCheese]

His words.... they are just too painfully delicious...... for laughing at.

Well it's been proven, the EA officers really know how to put the "Bad" in "Bad Company"

So would it be appropriate to categorize everyone of these so-called business "Savvy" men who have been spouting their "Enlightening knowledge" *cough*Garbage*cough* about the games industry all these years into a an easier to remember group of sorts?

I even have a name for them, Malicious. Underdeveloped. League. of Evil.


Captcha: These parts..... have debatable performance when compared to a an average PC.

(How do you bold letters?)

You bold things like this (quote me and look at the markup).

Basic forum markup info at http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/markup_help.php


OH yeah, there was a topic here...

I say marketing being marketing. Out of the gate, you'll be hard-pressed to reach the same power to value ratio of the consoles with their unified construction but constantly evolving PC hardware will always produce more impressive results soon enough.

But yeah, I'm totally not buying an Xbox this generation. Maybe PS4? Probably WiiU, new computer from the ground up in a year or two and I'll be set.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

To be fair, the last console generation dates back to before tablets and smartphones were common enough to push SoC architecture as a way of gleaning optimum power out of a lower-spec system. So it's not unreasonable to assume that with this same technology inside the new consoles they could be tremendously powerful.

Of course, so far all they've done with said new technology is to embed the world's most advanced neopet into Call of Duty.

 

[Chad Brumfield]

I spent $50 on a retro console that plays both NEW and SNES games that I've had sitting in my closet for years upon years now since my old systems either broke down or I lost the components to run them. This money, at the moment, was ten times the investment that I would pay for either the Playstation 4 or the XBone.

 

[Silly Hats]

Yeah fine, consoles may have slightly more advanced technology. The fact is that a decent PC will still run with better performance, flexibility and aesthetics with technology "a generation behind" - even higher future keeping will ensure great results in the future.