EA Founder: Consoles Will Become Niche
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True enough it is becoming a problem, less so with Sony these days they do still put out a lot of first party games and have some great IP's going. Microsoft are the best example of the issue, no focus on games whatsoever and a pitiful trickle of first party titles in recent years. Also the whole paying for live thing needs to end, it's just stupid, why would anyone pay to watch netflix on their xbox?FoolKiller said:
But yeah,m the multimedia thing is becoming a bigger and bigger issue, I prefer my gaming to be a bit more dedicated and I would like a bit more variety than there is at the moment, I miss last gen when crazy stuff like Viewtiful Joe would get a full disc release and be worth every flashy penny.
Huzzah my opinion is valid! By all means people, hammer EA when they do wrong, but when they do good give them dues, and when they do nothing then why blame them?Bloodstain said:
Shrink it shall though I shall likely never leave it, I love too many Sony IP's. Though my PC will soon become a hub for gaming.
Everything is dead. We're playing on zombified devices. It's only taken this long to realize it.Ickabod said:
OT: I made the transition from console games years ago because I was getting jaded by Nintendo's lack of anything fun to do. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy some of what the consoles could offer. But the PC just does more for a lot less (in the long run) and the consoles will have to do something new and different to really stay relevant for much longer.
Though, keep in mind this guy founded EA... so take his words with a mountain of salt.
Speaking of chuckling, I'm pretty sure the only reason he got banned was because he went running to the mods about two people "insulting him", thereby drawing the mods attention to Mortai calling the two people sexists and liars. If he hadn't tried so hard to get people in trouble he'd still be here.FelixG said:
Indeed! EA is just another company. They make mistakes, they do a few good things. No need to hate them with a burning passion. Or name them America's worst company, which they most definitely aren't...SkarKrow said:
[small]I could rage all day about this award.[/small]
I don't agree with his prediction. If you view the facts at present, sure. It's easy to see the slowing profits and trends associated with the consoles at this point in their life cycle, especially since Microsoft and Sony are really squeezing water out of their respective rocks.
Come Wii U and Xbox 720/PlayStation 4 time, we'll most likely see another surge of interest in the console market. Everyone wants the latest and greatest, and the console makers are going to be sure to tailor their advertisement to that. The interest and trends in the console arena are much more dynamic than that for the PC, just for the fact that PC hardware is consistently improving... where are console hardware will typically fall, though the help of peripherals and exclusives will help to bolster numbers.
Come Wii U and Xbox 720/PlayStation 4 time, we'll most likely see another surge of interest in the console market. Everyone wants the latest and greatest, and the console makers are going to be sure to tailor their advertisement to that. The interest and trends in the console arena are much more dynamic than that for the PC, just for the fact that PC hardware is consistently improving... where are console hardware will typically fall, though the help of peripherals and exclusives will help to bolster numbers.
Yes, Farmville will completely eradicate the demand for big console and pc games such as Skyrim or Borderlands, and in no way will we be able to resist the temptation of throwing out our 360's and PS3's in favour of playing the god-given wonder that is Angry Birds.
Honestly, while I hate some of EA's business practices, thats all they are, a business out to make money. They're hardly the most evil thing in the world. They make games that I like, but do business I dislike, so I'll just play the games and complain about the bits I don't like, that way they pay a tiny bit of attention and may change, whereas by not buying there stuff and bitching, they don't care, because you aren't a customer anyway.Bloodstain said:
Simples.
[small]That award is retarded, surely Microsoft are further up their for the sheer quantity of defective hardware they knowingly cast out into the world?[/small]
[small]Or 4Kids for ruining anime in english, thank god funimation took One Piece off them[/small]
True that, the PC progressively improves over time where the consoles lurch forwards in great bounds every 5, 6 or 7 years or so. Sales and consumer interest follow suit.Studsmack said:
Simply quoting the article, argue its points, but don't just say that a new console cycle will flip the tables completely again.s69-5 said:
Do you know for a fact that it does, as all signs I see indicate it doesn't. You get a PC, if you don't like the PC you swap back to console, but otherwise you will use your PC for gaming, not needing to buy a new console except for exclusives, which you generally do at a later date when the console price drops so that you aren't paying a rediculous sum of money for a machine that you'll play 3 games on.
I agree with this. Console sales will increase when the next gen comes in. Why this would diminish PC gaming, I have no clue.
Perhaps I'm putting too much faith in people not to impulse buy $600+ machines just to go with the flow. A PC will last through the next console gen if it is of decent quality, still managing to play all games released. In such a case, what purpose is there to buying a console?
Exclusives. When people only want one or two games for a system, they don't tend to impulse buy at $600 and then buy more games just so they can feel worthwhile, if previous comments I've read on these forums are true it would seem people instead prefer to wait for a price drop to buy something with exclusives that just does everything that their current hardware already does.
Umm....
Cloud gaming...
So, normal gaming, with your data stored online?
Like Steam is doing ATM?
Or are we talking gaming being streamed from outside sources, costing a fortune thanks to bandwidth requirements and their tech costs, and still having plenty of lag?
Honestly that sort of gaming to me looks more to be headed the way of simply putting the CD in and playing the game - its all but gone on the PC. Why? Because loading times are far too slow, and installing the game fixes this. Having someone stream you the game is basically just playing Diablo 3 - lag and latency issues that negatively effect your gameplay, and screw you if you lose connection. Until Internet speeds, caps and reliability picks up a lot worldwide, I don't see this becoming a hit.
A new source has found that Trip Hawkins has an IQ of 67, while he has hid this fact from the rest of the world, his doctor has come forward. His doctor stated that Trip's condition was terminal and that his own stupidity would in the end be the cause of his demise. The demise would be finical and personal. With EA's slow but sure loss on a market Trip only defence was to state that said market would become obsolete. Let him be in your prayers as if anyone needs a miracle to survive it is this man.
...really?Two-A said:
First off, shame on you for citing MMOs. That's a whole different kind of zombie (and the companies don't even have to program them in). Props for avoiding the blatantly obvious one, though.
Minecraft's not about zombies. It's about taking your giant virtual Lego set and...well...playing Legos. Don't forget how long it took to get an experience point system going; the zombies were not the focus.
And, in Skyrim, it's all about the dragons. The "zombies" were background.
Just because there happen to be zombies in it doesn't make it a "zombie game".
ACK! Off topic! Sorry!
I think perhaps the better question is: what is so-called "casual gaming" going to look like in, say, five to ten years? Are people still going to be looking for the next "Cut The Rope" or "Angry Birds"? Or are they going to be demanding something more complex, much like the people who grew up on Combat, Pitfall, and Ultima are now playing games like Call of Duty, Uncharted, and The Witcher?Grey Carter said:
I think that as technology advances, console development will be become somewhat pointless (and I mean designing new consoles, not designing games for consoles).
We're at the point of diminishing returns on technological advances in gaming. Graphics, memory requirements, etc, are less of a barrier than they have been in the past. Various companies have expressed their desire that this console generation will last longer than previous ones because improving the hardware doesn't really open up the design space for games that much (as compared to previous console generations which generally provided huge advances).
The main purpose of consoles is that they provide (relatively) high-end graphics and processing power for a far cheaper price than a PC with similar gaming capabilities. For instance, it's pretty damn hard to build a computer that can run Borderlands 2 efficiently for 200 bucks.
But eventually, even the cheapest computers will be able to run stuff that's "good enough", and at that point, there's a lot less incentive for companies to build and market consoles (although game controllers for PCs might become more popular if consoles start to die out). Maybe consoles would see continued life for things like VR or whatever, but that won't necessarily be mainstream or affordable.
That being said, this scenario is probably 5-10 years away at MINIMUM, and unforeseen technology advancements might crop up that would change the whole ballgame.
We're at the point of diminishing returns on technological advances in gaming. Graphics, memory requirements, etc, are less of a barrier than they have been in the past. Various companies have expressed their desire that this console generation will last longer than previous ones because improving the hardware doesn't really open up the design space for games that much (as compared to previous console generations which generally provided huge advances).
The main purpose of consoles is that they provide (relatively) high-end graphics and processing power for a far cheaper price than a PC with similar gaming capabilities. For instance, it's pretty damn hard to build a computer that can run Borderlands 2 efficiently for 200 bucks.
But eventually, even the cheapest computers will be able to run stuff that's "good enough", and at that point, there's a lot less incentive for companies to build and market consoles (although game controllers for PCs might become more popular if consoles start to die out). Maybe consoles would see continued life for things like VR or whatever, but that won't necessarily be mainstream or affordable.
That being said, this scenario is probably 5-10 years away at MINIMUM, and unforeseen technology advancements might crop up that would change the whole ballgame.