This brings me back to my times in Secondary School when two really immature thugs would start throwing punches at eachother even though it accomplished nothing...... FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!
EA Slings More Mud at Activision
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Honestly, EA is really starting to get under my skin.
I used to be a bit of a fan what with all of the things they were doing right, then the steam thing, then childishly insulting people, and then forgetting to make menus on the pc.
Very close to dropping EA. Activision isn't any better, but for christ's sake do we really need to fling poo like this.
I used to be a bit of a fan what with all of the things they were doing right, then the steam thing, then childishly insulting people, and then forgetting to make menus on the pc.
Very close to dropping EA. Activision isn't any better, but for christ's sake do we really need to fling poo like this.
It took a lot of time, money and an entire marketing devision, but in the end, they accomplished their noble goal. Now for the next goal, implement Project: Pay-per-minute gaming!Zhukov said:
I'm kinda liking this, after how much of a douche Activision has been over recent years this is kinda awesome.
Hubris has a funny way of biting you in the arse. I'm sure COD will outsell BF3. I'm sure I will like BF3 more. I think BF3 could have been a premium e-sports title if they had allowed LAN play. Maybe that will be patched in at a later date? Let us hope.
The best policy is to talk softly and carry a big stick. Let your actions (games) speak for themselves. Sure you can and should spruik your product but attacking another's product is just poor form. Neither of these companies realise this. My biggest disappointment is that DICE can't just walk away from EA. I like DICE and hate EA, I feel the same way about Bioware although they have been disappointing me lately. I can't remember the last Activision game I played, I think it may have been Prototype and I only played a couple of hours of that.
The best policy is to talk softly and carry a big stick. Let your actions (games) speak for themselves. Sure you can and should spruik your product but attacking another's product is just poor form. Neither of these companies realise this. My biggest disappointment is that DICE can't just walk away from EA. I like DICE and hate EA, I feel the same way about Bioware although they have been disappointing me lately. I can't remember the last Activision game I played, I think it may have been Prototype and I only played a couple of hours of that.
I actually find these kinds of slinging contests interesting, actually.fozzy360 said:
An optimist would say "there's room for everyone! I want everyone to be successful!"
A cynic would say "It's cutthroat out there, consumers don't have unlimited money."
Hirshberg's initial response on how he wants everyone to succeed even if it isn't their own games, when looked at it through a veteran's eyes, could be seen as naive. We all like to picture game developers getting together, regardless of company, and just being fun and nice to each other. But in the end, they are competitors, and they have to compete over the customer's dollars.
From where I stand, I find Green's reaction quite interesting. He's provoking him, pointing out his inexperience, saying "welcome to the big leagues" like he knows this kind of shit in and out. He's been there done that. Of course he would like for Modern Warfare 3 to succeed, to not would be pretty cruel. But he wants his own game to succeed more, and there's no room for this pussyfooting of "Let's all play nice, there's room for all!" when, at least to a publisher/marketer, there isn't.
Personally, I would love to see a response from Activision literally going "Oh, it is so on now! You goin' down!" with EA responding "Nuh-uh! You bitches be goin' down!", basically encouraging some healthy rivalry and competition. A healthy slinging competition couldn't hurt.
It all really makes me think that I haven't actually seen anything that makes me want to buy BF3 over MW3.
They're are trying to market this all off to the gaming crowd, but the only thing Battlefield 3 really has is sound and graphics. And those graphics aren't going to count for shit on the Console, which is pretty much entirely Activision's.
Not to mention that those of us who actually played BC2 on the consoles realized how much is cut for the sake of actually making it manageable to the consoles.
They're are trying to market this all off to the gaming crowd, but the only thing Battlefield 3 really has is sound and graphics. And those graphics aren't going to count for shit on the Console, which is pretty much entirely Activision's.
Not to mention that those of us who actually played BC2 on the consoles realized how much is cut for the sake of actually making it manageable to the consoles.
Soooo
1. Universal loathing for some truly horrendous development practices.
2. Keeping games off Steam "because they aren't DLC friendly" (aka We want to use our inferior patching system. Remember BC2? Yeah. Also, please get Origin. We don't care if we have to hold AAAs hostage. Just... please)
3. Refusing to act like professionals, or for that matter, peers with their creative brethren. I understand the CEO is to the dev teams as an orange is to a cow, but still. There has to be *some* kind of class between the actual teams in the different studios.
Care to add something else, EA? Because you're kind of coming off as asses.
1. Universal loathing for some truly horrendous development practices.
2. Keeping games off Steam "because they aren't DLC friendly" (aka We want to use our inferior patching system. Remember BC2? Yeah. Also, please get Origin. We don't care if we have to hold AAAs hostage. Just... please)
3. Refusing to act like professionals, or for that matter, peers with their creative brethren. I understand the CEO is to the dev teams as an orange is to a cow, but still. There has to be *some* kind of class between the actual teams in the different studios.
Care to add something else, EA? Because you're kind of coming off as asses.
is it me or has EA just completely lost it shit lately, I mean wtf is wrong with them? Their little stunts with Dante's inferno and dead space 2's marketing, their little drama with Steam and now this? What the hell? Have they just employed a 14 year old for their C.E.O (or head of marketing) or what? How is any of this good for business? I can understand him saying this sort of thing behind closed doors but just saying this to the press is just.... unprofessional, I just don't know what to say any more... I'm just flabbergasted and... disappointed. Seriously all I can say is WTF?
I think this is all good fun. I don't really care how badly motivated these people are, and how petty or childish they get, or how mature they try to be next to the petty and childish one. Its a mudslinging campaign, like the worst of political vendettas, and I thoroughly enjoy it. I don't really care who's in the wrong or the right, I just think its damn funny, and thoroughly look forward to the next shit-slinging festival they throw.
Also, its even more enjoyable because Activision and EA are basically the biggest, meanest guys on the block when it comes to publishers, and watching them tear each other down gives me hope that they might destabilize themselves enough that someone with a moral compass to go with business sense shows up - or at least someone who cares about the promotion of gaming as a medium, not just as a product.
Also, its even more enjoyable because Activision and EA are basically the biggest, meanest guys on the block when it comes to publishers, and watching them tear each other down gives me hope that they might destabilize themselves enough that someone with a moral compass to go with business sense shows up - or at least someone who cares about the promotion of gaming as a medium, not just as a product.
