This kind of goes to show that EA doesn't have enough faith in its ability to make a good single player experience anymore.
EA Turns Its Back on Single-Player Games
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WHY IN THE HELL DO DEVELOPERS THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE CONSTANT INTERNET ACCESS.
MANY HAVE POOR INTERNET, AND MANY ALSO HAVE NO INTERNET ACCESS AT ALL.
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PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE CONSTANT INTERNET ACCESS.
MANY HAVE POOR INTERNET, AND MANY ALSO HAVE NO INTERNET ACCESS AT ALL.
'scuse me, I feel caps lock should be permitted for this.
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ALSO THIS.Crazy Zaul said:
It'll be interesting to see how they'll manage to shoehorn multiplayer into every IP. I mean, when you look at a survival horror game like Dead Space, there's no way they could turn that into a cooperative expe-OH WAIT
I didn't sift through 280 posts (though I try to read as much as I can) but this is too stupid for me to handle, and it has to be let out.
Buddy, did anyone leave a memo on your desk that Skyrim has made over 500 million dollars? All without co-op, deathmatch, or bugging my friends on Facebook with "Hey, I killed a Dragon! Click here to help me give EA more money!"
Honestly, every time a talking head from this company decides to speak to their buying public, they say the most inane, thick-headed, pretentious and pompous bullshit and its the kind of things that people who actually play video games have nightmares about.
"Haven't greenlighted a purely single-player experience"? Then you suck at your job, diversity gives you the willies and urrrrrghhhhh fjhgdoshugdouhfgodfh alright much better. Well, only a little, but it helps.
Buddy, did anyone leave a memo on your desk that Skyrim has made over 500 million dollars? All without co-op, deathmatch, or bugging my friends on Facebook with "Hey, I killed a Dragon! Click here to help me give EA more money!"
Honestly, every time a talking head from this company decides to speak to their buying public, they say the most inane, thick-headed, pretentious and pompous bullshit and its the kind of things that people who actually play video games have nightmares about.
"Haven't greenlighted a purely single-player experience"? Then you suck at your job, diversity gives you the willies and urrrrrghhhhh fjhgdoshugdouhfgodfh alright much better. Well, only a little, but it helps.
You know, if you'd actually taken as much time to read the article and the statement as you did to write this overlong, bloated hyperbole, you would see that it's not strictly about multiplayer. It's about connectivity. Something that's already happening in the industry.Rooster Cogburn said:
Again like I said earlier it's suddenly ok for you and others to be hypocrites about this because it's EA?
I know it was a strawman, but I will take a minute and address the C&C argument though. It's 2012, how many RTS games today release without at least SOME form of online multiplayer? Starcraft 2 is the largest RTS in the world right now, and it got that way with online multiplayer. Hell, even indie RTS's release with online multiplayer now. Why shouldn't C&C? So what if it used to be a single player only game? Last time I checked the campaign was still there.
anything else you say hyperbolic nonsense.
But think of all the money the sales they lost due to lacking social network integration! They could have made over 1000 million dollars!DrunkOnEstus said:
Mass Effect 3: Bothdaibakuha said:
Dead Space 2: Multiplayer
Dead Space 3: Multiplayer (so far)
Dragon Age 3: (rumoured to have multiplayer)
Syndicate: Actually the multiplayer was closer to the original game than the actual campaign.
Project ten dollar in general
Dragon Age: DLC (iffy one as they really could have been telling the truth about Shale's reason for not being in the game)
I get the reason for some of these, but with EA you give them a finger and they bite your arm off. There was no logical reason for locking the Prothean behind a DLC barrier for customers who were NOT buying a second-hand copy.
Oh Electronic Arts, where did you start to go wrong?
First rule of running a successful business is surely to build not only a good product but good relations with your customers. Build a GOOD game that's worth it's price and people will buy it. Build a great one, and people will keep it. Think of all the PC gamers who still have a copy of Doom lying around.
But watching EA alienate it's customers and ripping them off - it's only going to be a matter of time before they go the way of the dodo. And the sad thing is that there is something they can do to reverse their fortunes - sack the idiots in the executive positions and replace them with the artists which EA used to be many moons ago.
While the same could also be said for Activision - though they've done the next best thing and kept Bobby Kotick from opening his mouth. (Hell, it was only yesteryear everyone was going on about how evil Activision is and what a cancer it is upon gaming.)
The big problem is publishers and their avarice. If only they'd be happy with smaller profits, better games and let customer happiness and positive PR do the rest by creating customer loyalty.
First rule of running a successful business is surely to build not only a good product but good relations with your customers. Build a GOOD game that's worth it's price and people will buy it. Build a great one, and people will keep it. Think of all the PC gamers who still have a copy of Doom lying around.
But watching EA alienate it's customers and ripping them off - it's only going to be a matter of time before they go the way of the dodo. And the sad thing is that there is something they can do to reverse their fortunes - sack the idiots in the executive positions and replace them with the artists which EA used to be many moons ago.
While the same could also be said for Activision - though they've done the next best thing and kept Bobby Kotick from opening his mouth. (Hell, it was only yesteryear everyone was going on about how evil Activision is and what a cancer it is upon gaming.)
The big problem is publishers and their avarice. If only they'd be happy with smaller profits, better games and let customer happiness and positive PR do the rest by creating customer loyalty.
Of course they aren't. They can't scam people out of even more money with online passes if the game is single player.
I don't have Gold (Man, I already bought an xbox, a TV, I'm paying for an internet connection already so I don't want to spend £40 or whatever it is for Gold, on top of the online passes they have sometimes) so I guess it sux2beme.
At least they haven't given up on single player completely. I think that would be the deaf of them.
Although I don't know how they're going to make games like Dragon Age into multiplayer... Doesn't seem right.
I don't have Gold (Man, I already bought an xbox, a TV, I'm paying for an internet connection already so I don't want to spend £40 or whatever it is for Gold, on top of the online passes they have sometimes) so I guess it sux2beme.
At least they haven't given up on single player completely. I think that would be the deaf of them.
Although I don't know how they're going to make games like Dragon Age into multiplayer... Doesn't seem right.
Death matches, capture the flag and squeaky condescending voices coming soon to a Dragon Age 3 near you!
And don't worry about missing out on it, because we'll guarantee you won't be able to get the entire experience of the single player campaign, unless you grind out arbitrary numbers in this tacked on mode that you'll get bored with in less than an hour after your fifth match that dropped before it even left the lobby!
SON OF A *****!
-plays Dragon Age, Knights of The Old Republic and the Mass Effect trilogy simultaneously whilst sobbing uncontrollably-
(I'm half serious, half exaggerating for comedic purposes... to keep myself sane)
And don't worry about missing out on it, because we'll guarantee you won't be able to get the entire experience of the single player campaign, unless you grind out arbitrary numbers in this tacked on mode that you'll get bored with in less than an hour after your fifth match that dropped before it even left the lobby!
SON OF A *****!
-plays Dragon Age, Knights of The Old Republic and the Mass Effect trilogy simultaneously whilst sobbing uncontrollably-
(I'm half serious, half exaggerating for comedic purposes... to keep myself sane)
I wouldn't actually blame EA for this.
Keep in mind that they use Madden and FIFA as justifications, and those games sell way more than Skyrim or GTA or any other "niche" titles. What I'm trying to get at, is that we're in a minority.
You know, before video games, if you wanted to play a game, it had to be with someone else, a breathing human being. It may not be natural for us to consider multi-player as a default state, but for everyone else, that is the case.
Keep in mind that they use Madden and FIFA as justifications, and those games sell way more than Skyrim or GTA or any other "niche" titles. What I'm trying to get at, is that we're in a minority.
You know, before video games, if you wanted to play a game, it had to be with someone else, a breathing human being. It may not be natural for us to consider multi-player as a default state, but for everyone else, that is the case.
Contradiction said:
It never even... never had a chance to show the world what it had to offer.
-hammy over the top emotional crying scene... then holds hand out for an Oscar-
EA
- You've ruined dead space for me
- Your destroying bioware
- ...and now you're going to screw over future potential games/IP's by adding in unnecessary multi-player
3 strikes. you're out EA. Not touching my money again, or more importantly my love again
- You've ruined dead space for me
- Your destroying bioware
- ...and now you're going to screw over future potential games/IP's by adding in unnecessary multi-player
3 strikes. you're out EA. Not touching my money again, or more importantly my love again
thing is, that worked for ME3. sure, it was nothing new, but the MP atleast was enjoyable. DA gameplay would make for some boring MP, unless they use different game mechanics.MarsProbe said: