EA Tweaking Mass Effect 3 to Appeal to Wider Market

FFHAuthor

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It's rather sickening that that Bioware was equating Call of Duty with an RPG and saying that 'the fans don't realize it's an RPG'. That's their justification in all this, and even if they try to go more mainstream with combat, the only way they'll do it better is with either a Gears of War cut and paste, or (I'm suprised no one brought this up before) A Rainbow Six:Vegas 1&2 style cover mechanic and tactical combat.

Now...that might actually be decent for Mass Effect, hybridize the shooting and team command with Gears style movement and melee, and you might have something decent...but we all know we're not going to get that, don't we? That would require EA to loosen the leash.
 

bombadilillo

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This game got too popular for its own good. I love a good space opera and ME was great, 2 just felt bland, cant wait to see the lowest comman denominater they shove out now.
 

Xaio30

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This is NOT what I wanted to read.
Maybe it's time for the other RPG companies to take over now?
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
He said that EA was a huge believer in the IP, and wanted as many people to play Mass Effect 3 as possible.
I'm sorry to be so anal about this, but I noticed a typo in the article. I thought I should point out that this sentence should read:

He said that EA was a huge believer in making money out of the IP, and wanted as many people to buy Mass Effect 3 as possible.

Thank you for your time and attention.
 

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Now I wasn't on the hate train for ME 2, and I still defend DA2.
But really, when you hear they are spending their limited money on "Appealing to a larger audience" and making it comparable to bigger shooters, what are you supposed to think?

Count the total skills and ranks in ME1.
Now ME2.
The logical math says there is now one skill per class with no ranks.
 

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This means EA is telling BioWare to make changes that BioWare may not agree with and have little to no say in. Did Mass Effect make any money last time? Why mess it up now?

By making this type of direction change at this point in the game development cycle there is almost zero chance this will actually improve the game or make it more interesting to its existing audience. EA makes a habit of dropping in additional features late in the cycle that cause other core concepts to be dropped or underdeveloped.
 

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Ugh...wake me up tomorrow, I'm going back to bed.

It's conflicting really; the emotions. One side is going "fuuuuuuuuuu money MONAY MONAY grubbers".

But the other side is going "fuuuuuuu SUPPLY AND DEMAND".

What they're trying to do is make it more.. 'buyable'. In other words, giving people what they want. They're fueled by gamers. If they lose the respect of the more hardcore, will they care? If their income increases would they mind? I mean, we're buying their stuff. We're fueling this change!

*cries*
 

derelict

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EA tweaking Mass Effect 3 to appeal to wider market to be shit.


Joy. -_- Lets finish something THEN shoehorn stuff in and out at the last second. How hard could it be?
 

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Hive Mind said:
Anytime someone working on the game says "shooter-meets-RPG", read it as: 'a shooter with dialog options'.

As if Mass Effect 2 wasn't dumbed down and turned into a first person shooter enough.
Mass Effect 1, however, was exactly what I'd expect of Shooter-Meets-RPG. Done very well, at that.
 

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Loonerinoes said:
I remember Casey Hudson specifically stating that ME3 was going to try and add some of the expansive feeling you got from ME1 without necessarily bringing back stuff like the inventory mess that was there.

Not that that won't stop the naysayers obviously. Heck, if even Portal 2 gets its day-one DLC detractors, why the heck shouldn't this game? *sigh*
but remember, that was BEFORE they decided to make it "appeal to a wider audience". as much as i liked mass effect 1, and mass effect 2. i liked the first more, as im a fan of RPGs, and ME2 was just a bit more repetitive and less interesting. it was cool that you could fire abilities around corners and such, but everything just seemed simpler, and not complex enough to warrant a second playthrough as if you wanted to see how a certain final upgrade worked, you could just save and make the choice twice with no real difference overall.
i liked how a number of little ME1 things made comebacks, but it just seemed insignificant, unless all those people you couldve helped come back in a much bigger way in ME3. and the story was focused a bit much on the squad. dont get me wrong, i like character development, but it just wasnt as interesting without the overarching story.
not to mention combat made no fucking sense at all (if thermal clips are universal, why cant i just use the ones assigned to my assult rifle for my sniper?). well thats an overstatement, but i still wish the ammo thing made more sense. and the cover system was a bit more irksome. and the ability progression was shorter and less interesting/complex/meaningful.

anyway, whenever something was made to appeal to a wider audience, that wider audience is call of duty players. and by call of duty players, they mean dumb jocks who want to shoot stuff and bang hot alien babes, rather than experience a good story with solid gameplay to back it up and sex as an optional thing which is the cumulation of an entire game of romance development. (also, ME1 did the sex scene loads better without making it porn, and the romace was a bit more interesting with the 2 you could pursue it with.)
so yeah, unless they lied through their teeth to make the shareholders content while going with what they know will be a better game (and what are the odds of that?), this will almost guarantee a worse experience overall. im just going to forget about this game until it comes out, so i dont look at every piece of evidence and get hopes up and crushed again and again, before i decide whether i will buy it.
 

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Hello community. I am probably mostly alone when I say this, but I really enjoyed the extra level of customization that came with ME1. Being able to tweak weapons and armor to fit unique situations was pretty cool as long as every now and then you purged your inventory of items that your characters have outgrown.
 

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HankMan said:
If the idea of Space Ninjas doesn't already appeal to a wide enough market, EA is definitely trying too hard.
What I find stupid that EA is doing this with a sequel to and established storyline. But who knows they might pick up a few extra people that get interested, but if it is a person that hasn't played a Mass Effect game before, they are picking up a game that will have two-thirds of the story missing and be confused as hell about what is going on.

It is a recipe for getting bad user ratings, because I don't doubt they will get a few newcomers that will trash it because they hadn't played the others and won't know what's going on.

I'm almost done with the first one and have the second one in my backlog waiting as the next game I move onto.

Oh well, it is too soon to know.
 

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When i first read the title i was thinking: "Ooooh shit !" then i told myself i would be patient before doing judgements so early. i just hope they don't call it an RPG "if" they're dumbing it down...
 

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soo, it's official then

ME3 will be renamed call of effect and will have multiplayer and lots of crappy multiplayer maps and call them DLC
heck i allready thought the ME to ME2 transision was a bad choice
now it will get even worse i think i'll pass if this is realy going to happen
 

wickedwizzard01

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@ paularius

nope DA2 is MUCH better than ME2 Ever was at least DA2 can still be called an RPG
while ME2 is more a 3th person shooter
heck and now they will probably turn it into a sort of COD since that will be left if you strip it even more
just hope the Multiplayer rumors of a few months ago will not be true
but on the other hand , they already have the COD people working on the weapons for ME3
just rip the almost nonexistent RPG out of ME2 and hey, presto Call of Effect is finished
 

Laser Priest

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Let's hope that this won't be dumbing it down and STOP WRITING IT DOWN AS SUCH YOU ARE NOT OMNISCIENT AND CAN NOT PREDICT THE FUTURE!
 

EdgeyX

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I don't see why they had to do this, loads of people would have got it anyway and this mite make them less likely to buy it in the first place.