EA Unleashes its "Indie Bundle"

[Tipsy Giant]

Wanted all the games but only two were on mac, so buying 3 games I can't play is hardly a deal, why isn't there ports of Shank yet? Damn!

Captcha: Shake a leg hahahhahahaha

I thought there was a port for Shank. I got it through the Humble Indie Bundle. Maybe its not on Steam. I remember having that problem with Hammerfight.

Their loss, I have plenty of games on my plate to keep me busy and it'll only get cheaper

 

[Innegativeion]

...hell is ironic?

WARNING, TV TROPES:

But yes, it is. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IronicHell]

So EA is concurrently pissing everyone and their grandma off by releasing a steam competitor complete with exclusive rights to extremely popular games,

AND

promoting an "Indie Bundle" sale for their very competition?

Jeeze, where's an inception top when you need one?

 

[The Wooster]

EA promoting an indie bundle? I'm pretty sure that's ironic. That's ironic as hell.

That's not ironic. That has nothing to do with irony. It's a misnomer (a misnomer is a word or term which suggests a meaning that is known to be wrong -- also a word that is used incorrectly or misleadingly. Examples include JRPG (they aren't RPGs) and a "lead pencil" (lead isn't used in pencils anymore).

It's is, however, ironic that you called something ironic and it isn't.

Dictionary definition: "the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, ?How nice!? when I said I had to work all weekend."

EA is the polar opposite of Indie.

 

[Something Amyss]

Indie when referring to music labels means the label doesn't give the band any money.

Unfortunately, there's a fuckton of major labels spouting off "indie" bands, which is exactly what I was talking about.

You can continue to miss the point and lecture me on what's "really," indie, but that doesn't realy change anything.

 

[Azuaron]

...hell is ironic?

WARNING, TV TROPES:

But yes, it is. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IronicHell]

...none of that is ironic. Irony requires an inversion of expectations or statement, and "ironic hell" as told by TV Tropes is, as they say right on the page, "Contrappasso", or, "the punishment fits the crime," which means it conforms to expectations.

True ironic hell, or, in other words, a hell contrary to stated expectations, would be a non-hellish hell, like if it was just awesome the whole time, instead of eternal punishment.

*amateur philologist rant*

So EA is concurrently pissing everyone and their grandma off by releasing a steam competitor complete with exclusive rights to extremely popular games,

AND

promoting an "Indie Bundle" sale for their very competition?

Jeeze, where's an inception top when you need one?

You don't want the top. You want your own thing. Hell, Cobb shouldn't have even had the top since it was Mal's.

 

[Robert Ewing]

EA... Indie... Publishers cancel out indie... For fuck sake lads, get it together.

Surely it should be renamed to 'bundle of slightly under budget, and harsh working hours inducing game titles.'

 

[dakkster]

Every time I see someone refer to Alanis Morissette and her song Ironic, I immediately think of Ed Byrne and his stand up act about how the song shouldn't be called Ironic, but rather Unfortunate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1TVSTkAXg

 

[ResonanceSD]

I loved Notch's response to this on twitter.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

"'How nice!' when I said I had to work all weekend."

That was sarcasm, not irony.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Indie when referring to music labels means the label doesn't give the band any money.

Unfortunately, there's a fuckton of major labels spouting off "indie" bands, which is exactly what I was talking about.

You can continue to miss the point and lecture me on what's "really," indie, but that doesn't realy change anything.

I wasn't lecturing you, so put your guard down and drop the pretense. I was simply explaining to you what indie means when referring to music.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

"'How nice!' when I said I had to work all weekend."

That was sarcasm, not irony.

Alternately, it was being a *****, not irony.

Let's come together and call it being a sarcastic *****, lol.

 

[Innegativeion]

...none of that is ironic. Irony requires an inversion of expectations or statement

Um, you mean exactly what is described on the page? The punished aren't expecting their greatest sin to be turned against them for eternity, or presumably they wouldn't have been doing it.

Hell, they even provide an example in the first paragraph; a glutton, one with a voracious desire for something, usually excessive eating, would expect to eat excessively. So they're starved for eternity. Even if he has at any point said 'I want to eat', then that's still technically an inversion of statement. The "expectations vs. outcome" variety of irony doesn't get any simpler than that.

You don't want the top. You want your own thing. Hell, Cobb shouldn't have even had the top since it was Mal's.

Spoiler: I dont see what that has to do with anything. I'm not particularly invested in the lore and mythos of Inception. I only saw it once.

 

[Azuaron]

...none of that is ironic. Irony requires an inversion of expectations or statement

Um, you mean exactly what is described on the page? The punished aren't expecting their greatest sin to be turned against them for eternity, or presumably they wouldn't have been doing it.

Hell, they even provide an example in the first paragraph; a glutton, one with a voracious desire for something, usually excessive eating, would expect to eat excessively. So they're starved for eternity. Even if he has at any point said 'I want to eat', then that's still technically an inversion of statement. The "expectations vs. outcome" variety of irony doesn't get any simpler than that.

No, the punished aren't expecting to end up in Hell. Once in Hell, that's basically what they should be expecting.

I suppose the issue I'm having is that even if it were ironic for the person, it's not ironic for Hell, so calling it "ironic Hell" is wrong (the irony is not describing Hell, but the situations people within Hell find themselves in). Particularly since my original statement arose from the OP saying "ironic as Hell," explicitly stating that Hell itself was ironic, not that the people in Hell were experiencing irony.

It's actually more of a "karmic Hell", assuming you're misapplying the philosophical concept of karma [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0848.html].

Edit: Yes, I was ignoring your point. But, given that we're arguing about whether or not Hell is ironic when the original topic is about EA promoting an "indie" bundle, you should realize that's something I like to do.

 

[Surpheal]

Where in the world is Inigo Montoya when you could really use him?

 

[jimbob123432]

Dear EA,
About that word "indie"...

 

[xyrafhoan]

Shank and Shank 2 are from a studio founded by grads of the small animation program I'm attending right now. EA published Shank for them, but they are very much a small studio that works on games independently and then goes to a publisher to cover dev costs. They didn't go to EA as much as EA came to them. They aren't the smallest of studios but they aren't dominated by their publisher, either.

It's still not "indie" indie, but it means they get marketing dollars and someone else to put their foot in the door for mass distribution. And for Klei Entertainment, it's worked out for them.

 

[Rheinmetall]

All of the games are worth picking up, providing you can stomach the awful thing their publisher is doing to the English language.

What exactly did they do? This is interesting.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Technically if they were indie and EA bought them they are still indie games ownership has just changed. If EA funded their development then they aren't indie. It's weird but accurate... I guess.

 

[Rheinmetall]

In EA dictionary "Indie" means low badget and small scope games created by Indians. So..why not buy them out too? Ho ho ho ho!

 

[Storax]

*Gets headache*
Did I seriously just read that correctly?