Eidos Employee Fired Over "Hate Speech" on Facebook

[lordmardok]

"Hate Speech" is analogous to "Free Speech."

Just Saiyan.

I get what you're saying but try and remember: This is not a 'free speech' issue. Someone legitimately DIED over this and he went on a public social networking site and lamented only that the murderer MISSED HIS INTENDED TARGET. That dead guy had family, friends, loved ones, maybe even children. So yeah, this guy deserves to get fire, he deserves to get pummeled by the law. He deserves whatever he gets because that was the wrong thing to say and it cripplingly stupid to say it.

On the lighter side, since we mostly all agree that he's stupid, at least the government is removing his dumb ass from the genepool, at least temporarily.

 

[Chiave]

Oooh that's great, don't actually address anything I said!

What you said is irrelevant and I'm not going to waste time defending a position I never once stood on (i.e. deflecting against accusations which were the result of poor inference and prejudice)

What I meant was: I hate when what I see actually supports a stereotype.

I love how you start this with "What I meant was..."

How convenient. Listen, your prejudice is a reflection on you, not me.

Congratulations, by the way, on doing absolutely nothing to show otherwise.

Congratulations! You sound like your God! T.V.

 

[andy_h007]

I don't know if Eidos is in the right here or not.

On the one hand, what the guy said was definitely stupid. I would never wish death on another person. I have been happy for certain peoples deaths, such as bin laden, and most people would agree that maniacs like that are better off dead than killing innocent people. But for someone who only made a comment of that sort, dumb as it was, was only expressing his right to free speech.

Now Eidos finds his comment and fires him for it even though he had nothing to do with the attempted assassination and most likely would never be apart of any attempt in the future other than believing it was for the greater good?

I don't know about Canada, but in the US it is illegal to fire someone for their political/religious/personal beliefs. From my point of view, this man could sew Eidos for unlawful termination and win hands down.

Just saying one more time that I don't agree with killing a political figure just because I might disagree with their policies, but I don't think firing someone for their own opinions it right.

Just my two cents.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

People take stuff said on social networking sites way too seriously. If the guy was seriously considering to assassinate a public figure he probably wouldn't have tweeted about it. He was merely unsatisfied with the fact that guy was elected and he exaggerated. I wouldn't have fired him. If he does his job well I don't give a fuck what he says to whom in his free time. Hell, I wouldn't even care if he tweeted that during his working hours. I'd tell him to stop tweeting while on the job and that's it. The guy only said what most people think anyway. There's a politician that deserves to be killed. That's not even news.

 

[Smooth Operator]

This is why you post on small forums that your employer doesn't frequent or even know about.

No this is why you do not ever associate random rants with your real name because that shit will be up there for decades to come and everyone to read and google will list it at some point, so anyone who wants to get some dirt can have a field day with your ass.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

I wonder when people will realize that freedoms of speech do not protect you from the consequences of said speech...

OT: It's no wonder some of us in America haven't heard about it, even though we practically next-door neighbors!

Then again, if the media won't report on stuff like this...


...then I don't find it too difficult to believe that the media would ignore something like an assassination attempt on a politician's life. Especially when we consider our own history with these kinda things.

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

"raison d'être"

I see what you did there.

 

[iniudan]

On OP, I think it was a good business decision, better fire him than get a very bad public image, it's a very emotional subject this week, our first political assassination attempt in 150 years or so, and only less than one hour after she was elected...

I think you forgot Pierre Laporte.

 

[aceman67]

our infrastructure isn't so bad.

Tell that to the families of the 5 people who were crushed to death when an overpass collapsed in Laval. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2006/10/01/overpass-collapse.html

Also: Health care system =/= infrastructure. Infrastructure is Roadways, Power Transmission lines, Telecommunication systems, and waterworks/sewage.

OT: If Quebec does separate, one, if not all, of the following will happen:

1. The first nations won't let Quebec have their lands and will elect to stay with Canada, regardless of a separation outcome, which is 80-90% of the province.

2. Parliament will say "Tough cookies" and enact eminent domain (Look it up, the Government has the sovereign right to say 'this land is ours, get out') on the provinces natural resources and flip the 'Parti Quebecois' (AKA Treasonous scum) the bird.

3. Canada will invade, and here's why: Canada won't let the country be (literally and figuratively) split in two, as it would cause undo harm to the nations interests. (This is the opinion of my Father, a retired 25 year veteran of the Canadian Armed Forces)

4. Since over 10,000 people have already put their homes up for sale to move to Ontario because of this situation, I think many many more will follow, leaving what ever 'nation' that comes from this in a sorry state.

 

[WindKnight]

Slightly off topic...

but is it weird that, as a UK resident, the assassination attempt was covered here on primetime news, and thus I knew about it, but it seems to have slipped under the radar in the US?

On topic...

what he said was pretty extreme and nasty, no defence at all. Eidos definitely made the right decision.

 

[draythefingerless]

our infrastructure isn't so bad.

Tell that to the families of the 5 people who were crushed to death when an overpass collapsed in Laval. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2006/10/01/overpass-collapse.html

Also: Health care system =/= infrastructure. Infrastructure is Roadways, Power Transmission lines, Telecommunication systems, and waterworks/sewage.

OT: If Quebec does separate, one, if not all, of the following will happen:

1. The first nations won't let Quebec have their lands and will elect to stay with Canada, regardless of a separation outcome, which is 80-90% of the province.

2. Parliament will say "Tough cookies" and enact eminent domain (Look it up, the Government has the sovereign right to say 'this land is ours, get out') on the provinces natural resources and flip the 'Parti Quebecois' (AKA Treasonous scum) the bird.

3. Canada will invade, and here's why: Canada won't let the country be (literally and figuratively) split in two, as it would cause undo harm to the nations interests. (This is the opinion of my Father, a retired 25 year veteran of the Canadian Armed Forces)

4. Since over 10,000 people have already put their homes up for sale to move to Ontario because of this situation, I think many many more will follow, leaving what ever 'nation' that comes from this in a sorry state.

I dont think you need to be so adamantly hateful of the Partis Quebecois. like america, canada was a sorry colony the british lost hold over, and they didnt even fight like the americans did, for it. Im not in favor of Quebec separating, i think in a world where were trying to be more globalized, more united, segregating sounds stupid.
I dont think you need your own country, to have your own fucking culture. And on the French thing, languages like french, spanish, and others, will slowly diminish all over the world, not just quebec. if it is a language to die, so be it. but hey, latin died eons ago and we still teach it, so...i wouldnt be worried about it.
Regardless of my thoughts on Quebec, i wouldnt hate PQ. I just hope they do the smart thing and improve Quebec, not harm it by suicidal separation.

 

[Knight Templar]

I understand firing the guy over it, this kind of thing can be a concern for the business, whatever. But criminal charges? Thats overreacting and just being silly.

 

[Stalydan]

Someone actually took a shot at her? Wow.

Still, I fucking hate the Separatists. I don't think they realize just how nasty things could get if they actually leave. Their infrastructure is shit, their construction companies are filled with corruption, and they are bleeding the Maritimes dry with hydro bills.

Plus could you imagine just how bad congestion would get on the bridges over the Ottawa River if they had to set up fucking border stations? My home is five minutes drive to Quebec, and putting a border gate at fucking Portage-Du-Fort? It's a pissy little town that's only contribution is a convenient cheap liquor store.

As a Québecer, i whole hearthly agree with you, if we separate i move out of Québec the next day

Okay, now I finally know why people don't like her. Thanks, you saved me from Googling this.

OT: Nothing stays hidden on the internet.

 

[cathou]

On OP, I think it was a good business decision, better fire him than get a very bad public image, it's a very emotional subject this week, our first political assassination attempt in 150 years or so, and only less than one hour after she was elected...

I think you forgot Pierre Laporte.

oh right... sorry, ok, second attempt in 150 years...

It was also more exciting when Chretien himself man-handled a protestor who got in his way as he made his way through the crowd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvjfJ6bAi0U

Actually, did you know that this guy, the protestor was running for Quebec Solidaire in this election ?

That dead guy had family, friends, loved ones, maybe even children.

just a follow up on that story. Denis Blanchet, the guy that was kill that day will get civic funeral, and the flag at the parliement will be half lowered that day. Also since he had a 4 year daugther, Spectra, the company that was employed him will do a show and all the profits will be donated to her.

 

[DoomyMcDoom]

our infrastructure isn't so bad.

Tell that to the families of the 5 people who were crushed to death when an overpass collapsed in Laval. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2006/10/01/overpass-collapse.html

Also: Health care system =/= infrastructure. Infrastructure is Roadways, Power Transmission lines, Telecommunication systems, and waterworks/sewage.

OT: If Quebec does separate, one, if not all, of the following will happen:

1. The first nations won't let Quebec have their lands and will elect to stay with Canada, regardless of a separation outcome, which is 80-90% of the province.

2. Parliament will say "Tough cookies" and enact eminent domain (Look it up, the Government has the sovereign right to say 'this land is ours, get out') on the provinces natural resources and flip the 'Parti Quebecois' (AKA Treasonous scum) the bird.

3. Canada will invade, and here's why: Canada won't let the country be (literally and figuratively) split in two, as it would cause undo harm to the nations interests. (This is the opinion of my Father, a retired 25 year veteran of the Canadian Armed Forces)

4. Since over 10,000 people have already put their homes up for sale to move to Ontario because of this situation, I think many many more will follow, leaving what ever 'nation' that comes from this in a sorry state.

I don't think you need to be so adamantly hateful of the Partis Quebecois. like America, Canada was a sorry colony the British lost hold over, and they didnt even fight like the Americans did, for it. I'm not in favor of Quebec separating, i think in a world where were trying to be more globalized, more united, segregating sounds stupid.
I don't think you need your own country, to have your own fucking culture. And on the French thing, languages like french, Spanish, and others, will slowly diminish all over the world, not just Quebec. if it is a language to die, so be it. but hey, Latin died eons ago and we still teach it, so...i wouldn't be worried about it.
Regardless of my thoughts on Quebec, i wouldn't hate PQ. I just hope they do the smart thing and improve Quebec, not harm it by suicidal separation.

A sorry colony that the British lost hold over? WHUT? we're still a commonwealth country, meaning we still have a connection to their royalty, also, when I look back at the separatists agenda over the years, they tried to separate and become part of France, and France flipped them the bird and told em to fuck off, they then tried to get together and become part of the US, and they were refused before they even got their plans together to try, if Quebec separated it would be fucked, and it would cause everyone harm, as a man from the west coast of the country, I can tell you, that as you move east, until you get past Ontario, all the signs are in English... why? because this isn't new France, it's Canada, and was until the entire structure of the English system changed, the monarchy became outdated, and they switched to a parlaimentary government.

Not advocating hate, but seriously, it's hard for a rational individual to understand how they'd be able to do anything even if they tried, their nation would be done in a year or two.

Also, if it weren't for how some of them treat their English speaking Canadian brothers, I don't think that there would be an issue from this side of the argument when it came to bilingual culture, because when you try and buy something, and the guy behind the counter looks at you as if you're lower than dirt, and refuses to speak to you in English or serve you at all, it's honestly surprising that there aren't more assaults reported there.

 

[Chives on top of me]

Okay, I'm American, and WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN ANYTHING ON THE NEWS ABOUT A FREAKING ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON A POLITICIAN'S LIFE?

"...what happened that night was that a man carrying firearms approached the Metropolis theatre, where the PQ victory party was being held, and attempted to enter. He didn't get in, but he did manage to wound two men, one fatally, before setting fire to the back door."

From: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/09/07/f-quebec-election-marois-coverage.html