Did he really say graphical awesomeness? That really makes me even less interested in this game.
Also hot keys.
Also hot keys.
Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
There are Dwemer ruins and Dwarven weapons, though.PrinceOfShapeir said:There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
But aren't they elves?thebobmaster said:There are Dwemer ruins and Dwarven weapons, though.PrinceOfShapeir said:There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
The engine really is not the be-all-and-end-all. It's just a construct. The engine does not dictate the playing style, else it would not be possible to have DotA 2 and Half-Life 2 running on the same engine. (at least, I didn't notice DotA 2 becoming an FPS when it was ported over to the Source engine...)Jimbo1212 said:"Regardless, Firor argues that a game's content and quality isn't dictated by its engine."
....yes it is.
The fact that they are using such a shitty engine as an alpha engine is worrying as it shows what style of gameplay they are aiming for (crap hotkey), and that the graphical fidelity will be dire. This looks like yet another EQ/WoW clone that will fail miserably.
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But what similarity will this shitty mmo hotkey game have with the ES series? Fuck all from the looks of it.
And a game engine determines exactly how the game will run. It just changes on how much tinkering is done on it by the devs.
Dwemer are often called Dwarves in the Elder Scrolls series (Skyrim in particular). The -mer suffix might mean that, like Orcs (full name being Orisimer), Dwarves might be technically Elves even though they're otherwise considered vastly different creatures altogether.bat32391 said:But aren't they elves?thebobmaster said:There are Dwemer ruins and Dwarven weapons, though.PrinceOfShapeir said:There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
The Dwemer are Dwarves.PrinceOfShapeir said:There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
No dwarves? Have you not played an Elder Scrolls game, or...?PrinceOfShapeir said:There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
Oh yeah. Nothing like dwarfs."A race of stonecutters, artisans, and engineers. They invented machines and built elaborate underground cities where they researched powers to rival the gods themselves. And then, at a time we are still not sure when, they disappeared. The whole people, all at once. Leaving behind only their works."
Yagrum Bagarn would like to have a word with you. [http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Yagrum_Bagarn]PrinceOfShapeir said:There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.Grey Day for Elcia said:Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwutJimmy T. Malice said:This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.
The engine determines everything.Slanzinger said:The engine really is not the be-all-and-end-all. It's just a construct. The engine does not dictate the playing style, else it would not be possible to have DotA 2 and Half-Life 2 running on the same engine. (at least, I didn't notice DotA 2 becoming an FPS when it was ported over to the Source engine...)Jimbo1212 said:"Regardless, Firor argues that a game's content and quality isn't dictated by its engine."
....yes it is.
The fact that they are using such a shitty engine as an alpha engine is worrying as it shows what style of gameplay they are aiming for (crap hotkey), and that the graphical fidelity will be dire. This looks like yet another EQ/WoW clone that will fail miserably.
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But what similarity will this shitty mmo hotkey game have with the ES series? Fuck all from the looks of it.
And a game engine determines exactly how the game will run. It just changes on how much tinkering is done on it by the devs.
Surely the fact that they've said they'll be using a different engine means in itself that they're aiming away from that anyway... but until they've got something else to work with, it's going to be a good jumping-off point.