Sithis and the Night Mother.
The Dark Brotherhood is something I've always loved in the TES games.
The Dark Brotherhood is something I've always loved in the TES games.
Then we sir are on two different levels.Pinstar said:I approach the elder scrolls as an 'open agnostic'. I'll do any religious questline if the rewards are right, and I won't shy away from the buffs and disease cleansing, but I have no solid opinion on which one is right or best.
Races, on the other hand, I RP a bit of discrimination. Argornians, don't trust them further than you can throw them.
Yeah, I get your point, I was talking from the player's PoV though, he knows it's true for a fact and so do weAcrisius said:In that world, Talos lived thousands of years ago. Whatever is written about him is written either then, or since. The fact that the Thalmer banned Talos-worship because they dispute the fact that he's a divine also proves a point, namely that things are not as "obvious" in the game as you make them out to be
There are many people in the games that don't believe in the divines because they haven't seen proof of them. Many worship the Deidra instead for this reason. Just because the player always gets to play as the chosen champion of the gods doesn't mean that everyone "believes" in their existence like you/your character does. That would be like saying "It's OBVIOUS that God exists" if you're the Pope. You're not exactly representative...
Let me quote NPC's after seeing the Dragonbron absorb a soul: "I never would have believed it if I hadn't just seen it" (or something like that). Most "people" thought dragons and the dragonborn are just a myth/legend. Until they were proved wrong. See the connection?
I can't believe we're discussing fictional religion...no wonder I don't have a girlfriend. /tactical facepalm
As for the Souls-thing...it's an RP choice. Part of RP-ing means not always taking the most practical course. I/my character, don't like the practice of absorbing somebody's soul and consuming it for the sake of powering an enchantment![]()
Exactly, but just because you adhere to a faith, doesn't mean you follow all the beliefs of your fellow believer. For example, a lot of other Christians believe in creationism, but some of us take that idea less seriously in lieu of the theory of evolution.teebeeohh said:then again, they also include one god who forces women to have abortions, but i guess that's the problem when gods are just really powerful people and not just embodiments of an idea.Farther than stars said:Well, as I've repeatedly said before, I've never really been able to get into TES series, but from what I've seen I agree most with the nine divines. They seem to be centered around the values of virtues and mercy and as a Christian I can dig that.
Exactly like Jesus, except Talos didn't take shit from anybody. Hit Talos, he don't turn the other cheek, the he turns you inside out. Jesus turned water into wine, Talos made rivers run red with blood(justly so).Acrisius said:Talos. That guy is a badass dude. Plus he's kinda like the Jesus of Tamriel, if you think about it...
I'm sorry but you are the one that brought religion into this argument and he wasn't shoving it down you throat he was merely explaining his point of view, So stop getting pissed off and live with the fact that a large majority of the escapist is atheistAcrisius said:You're saying that having dragon blood, being able to absorb the souls of dragons and shouting to cause a thunderstorm and shit...isn't impossible..? Most people in the games don't believe any of that shit is actually real, that it's just a legend or myth, etc. Kinda like with jesus.Vrach said:Metaphors being the main problem. In TES, Talos was a real man, a well documented emperor and what he did isn't impossible in that world, you can still see it in "present day". Jesus, or at least his special powers, are pretty much a myth (no offense to Christians, but my atheistic views aside, I think you can agree Talos is more "provable" in TES than Jesus is in RL).Acrisius said:Dude, just switch out the words or consider them metaphors and you have EXACTLY what Jesus did.Vrach said:Hmmm, if Jesus was an emperor of dragon blood who conquered the Earth and was able to shout enemies to death, I have to admit, I'd be a Christian myselfAcrisius said:Talos. That guy is a badass dude. Plus he's kinda like the Jesus of Tamriel, if you think about it...
edited for a lore fail up there x.x
OT: Talos' awesomeness aside, Deadra are my favourite. I love them, they're like the Gods of Greek mythology, instead of being perfect, goody two shoes Gods, they're mostly just powerful jackasses
edit: oh and the Tribunal Gods were pretty awesome.
Example, he shouted out disease from people, shouted at water to make it let him walk on it, shouted at fish and bread to make it endless...So he didn't have DRAGON blood, but he did have DIVINE blood, kinda, being son of God and all. And he conquered a lot of the earth by spreading his teachings, and has his own hood up in heaven, etc. Plus, Talos being ascended to Aetherius and becoming a divine is almost a rip off from the bible with Jesus being ascended to heaven, etc.
I'm telling you bro. Talos = Badass Jesus.
Daedra show the same similarities, except with Greek gods, just like you say. Powerful Jackasses indeed
Try pissing them off if you can when you play Skyrim, be really ungrateful and cocky. They're fun![]()
And yeah I already fucked Azura over. Which I'm kinda sad about as I like her and she's the only good Deadra, but guaranteed Grand souls? Hells yeah. I'm not even sure what creatures have Grand souls in Skyrim. Dragons would be an obvious guess, but I hit a few of them with my Soulripper (my personal little soul reaping dagger) and saw a "resisted" message one too many times so not sure if they're immune. Guessing Ice Trolls or Giants maybe? But no clue, usually it was the Deadric creatures in previous games and the only ones of those I've seen so far are the dudes the guy in Azura's Star summons on your arse to defend himself.
No wait, I'm not gonna get dragged into a religious discussion. Stop shoving your fucking atheism in people's faces, this has nothing to do with any of that, you're taking things out of context
Talos = Badass Jesus of Tamriel. End of story
And you can find grand souls everywhere. Mammoth's and Giants for example. Powerful Draugr...You fucked Azura over for a minor convenience! BWAHAHA JERK!![]()