Electronic Arts Disables "Non-Critical" SimCity Features - UPDATED

Notsomuch

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Companies don't want to buy servers for the release week that wont be utilized for the rest of the year. With this happening for the Majority of popular games that utilize this always on DRM people need to realize that they are not buying a working product, they aren't even buying a product, they are basically renting. Everyone should boycott games that use this type of DRM.

I wont be buying this and as someone who will be responsible for selling this and other games I'll be sure to inform consumers about what they're buying if they are looking at these games.
 

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Sim City Limited edition: Now even more limited!

Sorry, just had to get it out. This whole debaucle is just so tragic, it's funny, even for me who preordered the game.
 

FalloutJack

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Heeey! In before someone said [HEADING=2]SimFailure![/HEADING]

Sooo...I guess we're learning what kind of a bank-buster it is now to try and keep out the pesky pirates who wouldn't bother pirating if you weren't trying to keep out the pesky pirates and just make a good game. Eh? Eh?

Wow, it's like shooting fish in a barrel here!
 

Carpenter

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Remember when we all defended piracy?
Remember when we all pirated stuff because we could even though we had the money or at least the ability to make the money? Remember how none of you are really poor enough to justify piracy if you have a computer and internet to begin with? remember how spoiled this culture has become?

I don't buy any single player game with this always online restriction, hence I don't have to deal with this. Still, I can't help but enjoy how you self entitled "consumers" act like this is completely out of left field.

Remember how people reacted to spore because you had to call a number if you installed the game 3 different times? They pirated the game to a massive degree.

I'll defend piracy and free exchange of data to the day I die but I'm not going to pretend like anti piracy tactics are somehow unprovoked or uncalled for. EA doesn't "want" to make money, it's a corporation meaning it's LEGALLY OBLIGATED to do whatever they can to maximize profit. Don't like it? Then stop whining about it online and tackle (or at least whine about) the root of the problem, the entire corporate culture.
 

Something Amyss

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Atmos Duality said:
Bringing up Steam is something of a Strawman to my original point, since this was more about discussing what Origin's policy was and why people are not guaranteed a refund (quite the opposite, really); however, I do believe that your point has further merit as a word of caution given the changing reality of the gaming business.
Steam probably didn't need to be brought up related to the initial point, I'd agree.

However, I also agree with the changing game business notion.

This brings up a further point, though. The number of people who buy digital services and expect them to be treated as goods instead, despite agreeing to EULAs that say otherwise and repeated demonstration by the companies as o how they feel about it....We may not like it, but it's reality. The best idea would be to stop buying them if you want the right to refund or exchange, as the gaming industry has made it clear that they treat them as services. You have no guarantee of continued service, no guarantee of refund, and not even a guarantee of functionality.

This should probably be illegal, and I doubt it'd hold up long in court. Still, until then, people have the information before them and at this point, people should know better. While I don't advocate companies pulling this sort of thing, we know it's happenings. In other words:

Caveat emptor.
 

Kevlar Eater

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A little bit of something from Amazon's [http://www.amazon.com/SimCity-Limited-Edition-Pc/product-reviews/B007FTE2VW/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_five?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addFiveStar&showViewpoints=0] 5-star page concerning this game:

I want anyone reading these reviews to notice one thing, nothing bad is being said about the game. Yes they screwed up the launch but I guarantee you this server issue will be fixed in a couple days and now a franchise will suffer over impatient entitled people.
*incoming language*

Entitled people? When the fuck are people not entitled to a product/service they just recently paid for?! Or paid for it in advance? If people can't play their goddamned game because of EA's in-fucking-competence, then yes, then those people are entitled to be pissed and do their damnedest to warn others to keep their money in their banks instead of giving it to EA. Blizzard and Diablo 3 basically made the template on how not to launch an always-on DRM game, yet Maxis and EA fucked it up something fierce! To be honest, I'm glad this title is getting zero-bombed in Amazon and Metacritic, and I hope it hits them where it hurts worst -- their wallets.
 

Genocidicles

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Excellent. Maybe this will make people think twice about purchasing games with always online DRM in the future.


Yeah right, who am I kidding. People will still come back for more even after this debacle. No self control whatsoever when they could get a shiny new game.
 

marurder

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It does give a whole new meaning to 'justifiable piracy'. Or at least, 'try before you buy'. As another poster in another thread said - 'I wait a month before buying any new game, so they sort out the issues and bugs [sic]'
 

Bolwing

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I've purchased SimCity like a blind moron that I am, and even I find the whole situation quite entertaining.
 

porous_shield

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Genocidicles said:
Excellent. Maybe this will make people think twice about purchasing games with always online DRM in the future.


Yeah right, who am I kidding. People will still come back for more even after this debacle. No self control whatsoever when they could get a shiny new game.
Yeah, they are like sheep. Plenty of game launches have had problems and yet people still preorder and support terrible DRM schemes.
 

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For the short amounts of time I've been able to play, its been a really fun game.

The server connection bit is what's annoying me. I was booted out of the game last night and I have no idea if my city even saved.
 

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Didn't they promise that exactly this wouldn't happen?

You'd figure with major releases like D3 having suffered this that companies would learn to not do it.

Oh wait...no, those games that had these problems still sold insanely well and in general companies are fine with screwing the customers.

Silly me for thinking they might actually care.
 

Mert Matthews

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You know what is the funny part? This will only increase piracy because pirates will soon make an offline server for the game and let people play offline. Offering better service than the producer.So good job you have just had caused the greatest backfire in the gaming history, as this continues the number of pirates will grow and so will DRM's untill we git another gaming crisis
 

Twilight_guy

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Obligatory, all launches for online games always fail to some extent no matter how the developer prepares. Other then that, Yeah this DRM doesn't work very well.
 

Spygon

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They are still having problems and the European launch is just around the corner i think EA is beyond serious trouble.
 

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Jaegerwolf said:
Anyone else want to play "Guess if Adrian is his/her real name and what country he/she is actually from?", cause I would be shocked, SHOCKED, if they weren't reading from a script during that conversation.
That was exactly my first thought reading this, it definitely looks like a script.
 

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dragongit said:
Please enjoy your always on DRM, and micro transactions. Leader boards and other minor services will be released as future DLC. A functioning game will be released as an expansion: It wont be a new game, it'll just work.

Seriously, I just read that they are blocking people who ask for refunds and other stupid crap. I'm surprised if EA still had legs, I've lost count on how many times they've shot their own feet.
Falcon123 said:
So, no word yet on how they justify threatening to ban people's accounts for trying to claim the refund EA offered? Awesome. I'm so glad EA are such good guys like CliffyB said. Otherwise, everyone involved in this wreck would look REALLY dumb and at least a little evil...
Sean Strife said:
dragongit said:
Please enjoy your always on DRM, and micro transactions. Leader boards and other minor services will be released as future DLC. A functioning game will be released as an expansion: It wont be a new game, it'll just work.

Seriously, I just read that they are blocking people who ask for refunds and other stupid crap. I'm surprised if EA still had legs, I've lost count on how many times they've shot their own feet.
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You mean stuff like this?
Hate to burst your bubbles, but that was already proven false. This very site already has at least two articles about that being disproved. As much as I like seeing EA getting flak, I'd prefer it if we did so with accurate info.