Finally! someone who i can agree with!thebobmaster said:Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!
Am I doing this right?
tmande2nd said:On the other hand: I feel bad for all the innocent people who might lose their job.
hentropy said:On one hand it's a bit hard for me to really stand up and applaud and cheer when a company like EA starts to lose a lot of money, simply because it means that people who had nothing to do with the financial decisions will likely get laid off or their benefits/pay cut so they can continue to prop up the farce of the company.
Gabe Yaden said:Wow! this post is so ignorant it almost hurts. There is probably a couple thousand of free opening across the spectrum for all those employees to go to right, I mean especially after all those other studio closings this year. But hay lets just forget that those are people with you know lives and family's because you know the only thing that matters is that I get to play more games.
thebobmaster said:Yes! Thousands of people have their jobs at risk! That's what they get for working for a company I don't like! They deserve to lose their job!
Am I doing this right?
Quite frankly, if people losing their jobs is what the result will be of companies like EA going under, then those are unavoidable and necessary sacrifices, and the video game industry and it's customers will both better off for it. Besides, people are making a big deal over nothing anyway. Why? It's because:Kirov Reporting said:I hate how people rush to be gleeful at the sight of EA floundering. Many people, including a close member of my family, make their livings working for EA. They feed their families and pay the mortgage working for EA. They get up every morning and put in a full day's hard work working for EA.
Don't like EA's games? Don't buy them, no-one has a gun to your head forcing you. Just be mature enough to have cast the vote with your wallet, and refrain from smugly declaring 'wel its cos their dicks arnt they LOL'.
You make the strike against EA by not buying the games, and maybe that will cause a change in their practices. Gloating over what will probably result in a load of layoffs? That's just cold.
The only reason I have an Origin account is that time I bought Heroes of Might and Magic 6 and had to create an O-ccount to register the game. So I was allowed to play the game. Which I already bought. On Steam.FoolKiller said:This is also a load of shit number... I have an Origin account. Its because I did some creation for my FIFA 11 ultimate team. I always love when these companies make these statements. This is just like my Google+ account existing since I have a gmail account.Andy Chalk said:... that its Origin platform now has more than 39 million registered users ...
Not to mention the trend on Escapist to wish places like Game and Gamestop out of business.Sylveria said:EA, its not the economy, its cause you're the most bloated, wasteful, unabashedly evil publisher on the planet.
And as far as the people crying "Think of the people who will lose their jobs." I'm sorry, but when a company does unethical, anti-consumer, exploitative, sleazy shit and puts out sub-par product we can't just let it slide because jobs are on the line.
I wonder how many "Think of the employees" people are the same people that want to shut down the fire-arm industry and want wal-mart gone. Ya know those places employ people to, right? Way, WAY more people than EA.
I don't think anyone is saying they shouldn't fail. Only that We shouldn't sit here and pop the champagne over companies failing. I'm also not talking about the developers, they can probably get by just fine, but rather all the accountants, HR people, IT people, janitors, etc. who work for EA and might not necessarily be able to get another job right away somewhere. People who may only have a cloudy idea of why everyone hates EA, and people who will be laid off because of crap their bosses did. Not something to celebrate, even if it would make the industry as a whole a bit better. There's a difference between realizing the sad reality and ignoring it so you can celebrate the demise of the faceless "bad guy".immortalfrieza said:Quite frankly, if people losing their jobs is what the result will be of companies like EA going under, then those are unavoidable and necessary sacrifices, and the video game industry and it's customers will both better off for it. Besides, people are making a big deal over nothing anyway. Why? It's because:hentropy said:On one hand it's a bit hard for me to really stand up and applaud and cheer when a company like EA starts to lose a lot of money, simply because it means that people who had nothing to do with the financial decisions will likely get laid off or their benefits/pay cut so they can continue to prop up the farce of the company.
1. Whatever company it is will be bought out and the buyer hire most of the remaining employees along with it.
2. They can get a job in one of the other companies.
3. They can start up their own companies. There are plenty of people that have been and will continue to be laid off or just leave that do this.
4. They can get work in other industries. One of the great things about getting degrees in the various areas of game development and publishing is that pretty much all of the degrees needed for it are applicable to many other industries beside the video game industry.
5. With companies like EA that buy up developers only to run them into the ground and will most likely do so more in the future, it will ultimately SAVE jobs in the long run to have companies like EA die.
6. The fact that people will lose their jobs is a PATHETIC reason to allow dying companies to stay afloat. Survival of the fittest is as much a law of business as it is of the jungle. If a company can't live in the face of it's competition, it doesn't deserve to.
I agree with this. EA's made some of my favorite games... albeit twenty years ago.TheSapphireKnight said:I wish they would tank if only so someone could buy them and install some competent management....
I like a lot of EA stuff and don't subscribe to the "EA is pure evil" line of thinking. My main issue is that it is run by fucking idiots.
yes it might have 39 million registered users but what fraction of them are active? and what are the sales like? i am betting there are few users active and fewer that have bought games off origin i know i can get them retail for cheaperAndy Chalk said:[snip]
and that its Origin platform now has more than 39 million registered users and distribution deals with 86 independent developers.
Actually, their inflating those numbers is even worse than just that. I have an Origin account as well. Why? Because I bought Bad Company 2 back when it came out and had to create a multiplayer account to play it. Once Origin came out they rolled that into an Origin account.FoolKiller said:This is also a load of shit number... I have an Origin account. Its because I did some creation for my FIFA 11 ultimate team. I always love when these companies make these statements. This is just like my Google+ account existing since I have a gmail account.Andy Chalk said:... that its Origin platform now has more than 39 million registered users ...
You automatically get a G+ account now and I think a YT account when you sign up for gmail now. Older accounts have to register individually.Joccaren said:I wouldn't say the market is as strong as ever. 8 years back my family mortgage was close to being paid off. Now its 5 times what it was then, more than it was originally, and still increasing in what we have to repay 'cause the price of everything is going up, but wages aren't by near as much [As an example, kids school fees go up 10% a year, or, with them being 'generous' this year, 5.5%. Tell me who gets more than a 3% annual pay rise each year, which doesn't even cover school fee increases, let alone petrol, food, water, electricity and gas costs]. You can probably tell I'm not going to be spending as much money on games, and the same goes for a LOT of people. We're still not really recovered from the GFC [And if you think we are tell that to my shares >.>], and its not like there's a number of people a bit short on money or anything.GAunderrated said:Wrong the market is as strong as ever Blake, its just you guys are making crap games and bad business practices that people want no part in. You can blame it on the economy, the community, the media, everything but what you are doing wrong.
Granted this isn't the only reason for EA's decline in sales. Look at other companies and their games seem to be preferred to EA's, doubtless because of EA's recent releases which have received a rather bad rep, and the fact that they're still insisting on shitty business practices to try and nickel and dime everyone out of their money. The economy certainly has an effect - I would have bought and tried Warfighter just to see for myself how bad it was had I a bunch of spare money to spend - but its certainly not the core of the problem.
Pretty sure that's not how it works. I had a Gmail account for years, still had to sign up for Google+. It suggested I import all my Gmail contacts, but I didn't actually have a G+ account, despite having a Gmail account. I think Google does that side of things properly.FoolKiller said:This is just like my Google+ account existing since I have a gmail account.